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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2016, 06:17:39 PM »
OK so I did some troubleshooting for the norm fuel air and spark, compression was good, air was definitely present, pulled #1 plug and it was wet with fuel, so I pulled all the right bank, none of them had any remnants of spark. Checked my green PCM connector and each coil was in the right pin location, ignition hot was just over 12vdc, so I started untaping the harness to find that the ground for the whole right bank wasn't connected to ground... Oh she sounds so much better as an 8 cylinder than a 4 banger dragging 4 dead cylinders!
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2016, 10:34:57 PM »
Well I should hope it runs a little better hahaha.
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #122 on: February 29, 2016, 06:50:52 PM »

103,000 miles and still looking like a slightly dirty baby..



Look at that cross hatch!
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2016, 09:02:46 PM »
Well I should have everything on its way to rebuild the 364 cui's of 'Merica power sometime this week except the harmonic balancer... It's on back order but it is said to ship by the 11th. I can't wait to have this thing fired up on the runstand!!!!
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2016, 09:10:30 PM »
Slight update as well...
Engine is stripped and looking good!

Bearings all look good. No real issues including con rods. That's a relief!
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2016, 09:13:39 PM »
Just add a chain fall. ..

 Not the safest but it's what I had to work with. After this we lifted the 5.3 off my buddies flat bed for his jeep project that I got hooked into..I don't really mind though
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #126 on: March 15, 2016, 07:24:48 PM »
First shipment arrived today. Not bad considering I just ordered it at 1030 last night! That's one thing I like about summit. Should have the other two shipment in the next 2 days! Next will be mock up and bearing measurements using old torque to yield bolts as to not make my new ones worthless.  Stage two will come and that will include all new hardware.
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #127 on: March 16, 2016, 01:02:19 AM »
e3???
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2016, 11:14:14 AM »
e3???
I wasn't going to say anything but now that you did. Unless your creating over 800 hp and drag racing, no plug will serve you better for reliability and performance than the AC Delco plugs that are supposed to be in that engine. We have seen to many issues with non factory plugs causing issues on Vortec engines. Those E3's included.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's just the way it is. Nothing works better than Delco. If the design and engineering of E3's was that great, why isn't GM using a principle in all of their high performance engines like the 650 hp supercharged 6.2L in the ZR1 Corvette's or the 427 in the ZL1 Camaro's or any of the crate engines?
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2016, 01:03:27 PM »
e3???
I wasn't going to say anything but now that you did. Unless your creating over 800 hp and drag racing, no plug will serve you better for reliability and performance than the AC Delco plugs that are supposed to be in that engine. We have seen to many issues with non factory plugs causing issues on Vortec engines. Those E3's included.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's just the way it is. Nothing works better than Delco. If the design and engineering of E3's was that great, why isn't GM using a principle in all of their high performance engines like the 650 hp supercharged 6.2L in the ZR1 Corvette's or the 427 in the ZL1 Camaro's or any of the crate engines?

I agree almost 100%. My findings on a dyno show losses from them even with high performance builds. Same with the splitfire junk and all the extra electrode trash on the market. It's just hype to steal your money.

If you are basically stock, use stock plugs. If you are built and making some power, NGK's usually do the best. Either way, don't fall for the weird electrode hype, all it does is shield the spark more and cause more problems. On an engine dyno with E3's, I had to pull 4 degrees of timing and drop 6lbs of boost to avoid predetonation compared to NGK's. Almost a 200hp loss at best, I tried different heat ranges as well. It also kept throwing codes for coil problems.
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #130 on: March 16, 2016, 02:18:54 PM »
My friend put E3's in his 79 GMC, with a mildly modified 350. Kept having miss fire issues. Finally swapped the whole set for Delco set it was done. I've used RapidFire's and had issues also, they are ok in TBI engines, horrible in carburated engines but still not that great any other time. Currently using a set of Delco plugs, don't remember the part number, no issues here.
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #131 on: March 16, 2016, 03:20:37 PM »
i remember selling them at autozone, we would get "rewards" if we sold certain things. they also used secret shoppers, if we didnt offer the products, said the greeting right, didnt offer to put the part on hold or offer the products how they wanted them to be offered we would be reprimanded in the next meeting. if we did everything the way they wanted then we would get a $20 gift card.

one of the lines i used to use while selling splitfire was "it has two electrodes, so that when one gets burnt up the spark would jump to the other. cause electric follows the path of lease resistance" then of course the little pack of spark plug anti seize. we would be rewarded to sell 20/week and who ever sold the most got another reward 
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2016, 10:54:34 PM »
i remember selling them at autozone, we would get "rewards" if we sold certain things. they also used secret shoppers, if we didnt offer the products, said the greeting right, didnt offer to put the part on hold or offer the products how they wanted them to be offered we would be reprimanded in the next meeting. if we did everything the way they wanted then we would get a $20 gift card.

one of the lines i used to use while selling splitfire was "it has two electrodes, so that when one gets burnt up the spark would jump to the other. cause electric follows the path of lease resistance" then of course the little pack of spark plug anti seize. we would be rewarded to sell 20/week and who ever sold the most got another reward
I knew it...
As far as the E3's I've already de used to send them back and get delcos! I know better but I guess I wanted to prove it to myself at first. I'm over that. I was over it when I opened one and looked at it for the first time . I got the rest of the shipment in an I will post pics when I get a chance. Next is a ball hone cleaning and assembly! But before the swap I gotta replace the fork seals on the bike so it can be a daily driver while the aid plow is down.
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2016, 03:16:07 PM »
It's alright. We all get learned once in a while.
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Re: Getting a little fancy... 1987 V10
« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2016, 08:43:10 PM »
The 03-06 had LQ9. 02 had the LQ4.
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