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Title: 73-87 Door Shell Differences and Door component info/swapability
Post by: Captkaos on December 28, 2009, 01:19:03 PM
GM doors from 73-76 were not available with power windows and they have short door panels and the window cranks are shorter.  Starting in 1977 power windows and locks were available and the inner door skin was change to accomplish this.  Below are the differences in the door panels

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 1973-76 Front Door shells (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=4144-400-73LR&Category_Code=7T)

 1977-87(91)Front Door shells (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=4144-400-772LR&Category_Code=7T)

This is a 73-76  
(http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/73-76door.jpg)

This is a 77-91
(http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/77-91door.jpg)
Title: Re: 73-87 Door Shell Differences
Post by: Captkaos on April 10, 2013, 11:45:51 PM

This is the Technical topic on the door shell differences: http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=3147.0 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=3147.0)
1973-76 – No provision for power windows, short door panels covering only the upper portion, requires short stalk regulators.
1977-91 – Power window provisions, extra holes for mounting power regulator, full door panels with lower carpeting, long stalk regulators.

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Door Panels  http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,25957 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,25957)
The 73-76 door panels can only be used on 73-76 doors unless you don't mind drilling new holes and filling in all the old holes.
The biggest being the large 2 at the bottom where the power motor bolts down (see above link)
77-80 and 81-87(91) panels “can” be used on any doors, but require the correct regulator (77-87(91)) the correct specific door handle (77-80 or 81-91)and new holes would need to be drilled.


Regulators:  http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,23598.msg196819.html#msg196819 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,23598.msg196819.html#msg196819)
Manual:
The early 1973 doors won't accept the 77-up regulator rollers.
The  1973 Front Door Window Regulator (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=4144-420-73L-R&Category_Code=7T)  has a much smaller roller on them and is specific to that year, you would have to change out the roller to use them on anything else, and the lower door track is the culprit.  Note: some early 1974’s had these smaller rollers, check to be sure.
The  1974-76 Front Door Window Regulator (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=4144-420-741RL&Category_Code=7T)  which are manual ONLY have a shorter window stalk crank and therefore cannot be used with the 77-87(91) door panels
On the  1977-87(91) Front Door MANUAL Window Regulator (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=4144-420-77L-R&Category_Code=7T) the window stalk crank is much longer than the 73-76 version.  Although they can be used with the 74-76 doors, they will have a large gap after the door panel stops.
Power:
1977-80 power regulators use the larger more powerful window motor  These can be used on any 1977-1991 door, but if you want to put them on the 1974-1976 door plan to make some new holes and modifications to make them work.
The  1977-87(91) Front Door Power Window Regulators (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=GM01-K&Category_Code=7T)  use the smaller window motor. These can be used on any 1977-1991 door, but if you want to put them on the 1974-1976 door plan to make some new holes and modifications to make them work.


Vent windows: http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=27075.0 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=27075.0)
There are three styles of vent windows, all of them will interchange, BUT the later model ones won’t have the extra mounting hole like the early ones.
1973-1980 – Non locking glass handle, 2 bolts on the vertical surface of the door. (visit our store here for 73-80 gasket (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=VWK-1110-73&Category_Code=WTHR)
1981-1985 – Locking glass handle, 1 bolt on the vertical surface of the door, 2 piece Seal. (visit our store here for 81-85 gasket (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=VWK-1110-81A&Category_Code=WTHR)
1985-1991 – Locking glass handle, 1 bolt on the vertical surface of the door. 1 piece seal. (visit our store here for 85-91 gasket (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=VWK-1110-81&Category_Code=WTHR)


Door Handles:  http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,25956 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,25956)
1973-1976 inside Door handles – thin with a curved tip, centered in the mount.  Will only work with related door panels.
 1977-1980 Inner Door Handles (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=0850-451-452&Category_Code=7T) – Thick(wide) with a curved tip, centered in the mount.  Will only work with related door panels
 1981-1987(91) Inner Door Handles (http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=7&Product_Code=4145-441-82LR&Category_Code=7T) – Thin and straight, offset to the bottom.   Will only work with related door panels


Glass thickness:  http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,23600.0.html (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,23600.0.html)
There are 2  different set/thickness of glass used.
1973-1980 was the thicker version
1981-1991 was the thinner version


Complete door assemblies removing from the hinges will swap to any year truck regardless of year.  So you can put 1973 doors on a 1991 truck and vice versa, 1977 on a 1973 and vice versa.  Suburban FRONT doors and Blazer doors from 1976-1991 will swap to pickups (there is no difference) in their entirety also.