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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Crew Cabs => Topic started by: Oldsmolet on June 11, 2015, 12:54:39 AM

Title: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on June 11, 2015, 12:54:39 AM
Well my 77 crew cab arrived from Texas finally so I figured I'd start a build thread for all the people asking about 2wd to 4wd swaps.   Seems lots say it's easier to swap cabs or its not possible. One person keeps spewing this with zero experience and detouring people from trying.  I have an 85 crew cab that was converted.  They did a hack job and cab was super rusty. I just used it as a mud beater and decided to redo it cause I've always wanted a nice crew cab.  Here's a picture of it.
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It needed floors, cab corners, rockers, pretty much everything to shorten the list.  I found a 77 crew cab in Texas to rob the cab and bed to save time.
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on June 11, 2015, 01:04:54 AM
So the 77 arrived today. It is super solid no rust except a hole in one fender.  Complete no pieces missing. Never been messed with except a small collision in frony they put later model grille and stuff in it. Since I have to swap fix and mend most the suspension and mounts on the other truck I've decided I'm just going to convert this one to 4wd. 
Hopefully document it well to show people what it really involves swapping these trucks over.
Plans are 73-74 grille, 8 inches of lift, 37" tires, green and white paint, and all new interior. 
This will probably take a while but hopefully ill have the suspension and swap stuff changed in the next couple weeks.
What is involved...
Rear springs I'm using an ORD shackle flip and the front rear hanger must be changed to 4wd. They hang lower than 2wd.

Front end. Cut out all the 2wd steering and engine cross member. It's riveted in. Replace crossmember with 4wd one.

Front springs core support mounts 4wd have front hanger built in. Drill holes and mount rear shackles.

Steering. Get a 4wd steering box and steering linkages.

Changing trans and transfer case obviously.  Drill holes for new cross member

Trans tunnel.  Either body lift or I have a bolt in tunnel so believe I'm going to replace.

Shafts and small stuff that's about it.  Time consuming because of all the rivets but not bad.
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on June 11, 2015, 01:13:50 AM
Here's some photos of what I'm starting with.  I love solid unmolested trucks! 
Plans for this weekend are remove bed, install hangers and springs for rear, paint rear frame and underside of bed with chassis saver.
Well here she is.
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Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: illinoisk30 on June 11, 2015, 04:35:07 AM
Welcome from Northern Illinois. What a great truck to start with, love those western trucks. I am anxious to see how this build turns out. You could leave the 2wd steering box and go with crossover steering.
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on June 11, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
Yeah I thought about that but I have a new 4wd steering box and all the parts
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on June 13, 2015, 06:30:04 AM
Well it rained on and off on me all day and I can't get in the garage so it was hit or miss and I had to wait on friends to help lift the bed.  I will say this.  Texas trucks are awesome! I took leaf springs and bed bolts and everything out with a 3/8 drive ratchet! Here's some photos. Not very exciting yet. More today.
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/oldsmolet/Mobile%20Uploads/image_3.jpg) (http://s988.photobucket.com/user/oldsmolet/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_3.jpg.html)

(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/oldsmolet/Mobile%20Uploads/image_4.jpg) (http://s988.photobucket.com/user/oldsmolet/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_4.jpg.html)
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/oldsmolet/Mobile%20Uploads/image_5.jpg)

I noticed this truck had 56" springs too so I have to move the rear bracket forward for the 52" springs.  GM already drilled the holes for you though ;)

Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on June 16, 2015, 11:04:22 PM
Well I ran into problems but we are working through them. Busy back at work too till the weekend.  My truck is actually a 1 ton.  Who knew. C20 badges and title says 3/4 ton.  So all my brackets are 3/4 ton now but as most of you know the spring perches are narrower on a 1 ton.  So I have a 3/4 ton 14 bolt FF that I'm just going to put in rather than move the perches.  Get that in then time to tackle the front
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on August 05, 2015, 02:02:40 AM
Well doesnt seem to be a lot of interest in step by steps so I stopped but figured I'd at least show an update.  Hopefully get engine and trans in soon.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/v7w20y.jpg)
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Dr_Snooz on August 05, 2015, 09:35:19 PM
Nope. I'm very interested in step-by-step. I am planning to convert my crew someday too. Have fun with the build.
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Oldsmolet on August 06, 2015, 01:55:19 AM
Well I have taken pictures most the way I may just compile them all one night.
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: zieg85 on August 06, 2015, 08:45:06 AM
Well I have taken pictures most the way I may just compile them all one night.
Please do
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Irish_Alley on August 06, 2015, 03:20:14 PM
Well I have taken pictures most the way I may just compile them all one night.
Please do

yup
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: Dr_Snooz on August 06, 2015, 10:18:31 PM
x3!
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: moss5472 on November 13, 2016, 06:22:49 AM
Well I have taken pictures most the way I may just compile them all one night.
Made any more progress? Im also interested in what it takes to 4x4 swap a c20 crew cab.
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: CJGuy on August 22, 2017, 11:12:40 AM
I converted my '80 2wheel drove to 4 by a few years back, I wouldn't want to do another one. But the two wheel drive trucks are so much cheaper and usually much cheaper...  will be watching!


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Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: JohnCaldy on October 25, 2017, 01:47:41 AM
Yup, I'm looking forward to more progress on this project.  :)
Title: Re: 77 crew cab 2wd to 4wd
Post by: tex62 on October 25, 2017, 02:49:26 AM
I am in on watching. Long considered doing this with my suburban.