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Title: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Captain J on October 18, 2021, 11:28:29 AM
Hello
My 1986 GMC Sierra K2500, make a clunk sound when I put it in revere?
Anyone know why, and the solution?
Thanks
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: bd on October 18, 2021, 12:34:32 PM
Clunking with the engine fully warmed up at idle RPM or cold with the choke still partially closed? 

Check the driveline u-joints to make sure they are tight with no visible evidence of rust tracks.  Give them a shot of grease if they are greaseable.  Then, with the park brake set, engine not running, and the transmission in neutral, check how many degrees of free rotation there are in the driveline, stop-to-stop.  Check the condition of the transmission mount.
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Shifty on October 18, 2021, 01:01:46 PM
BD has the most likely answer, but....does it do the clunking while putting it into reverse?  A lot of shift kits make the hit into reverse hit harder as a side effect.   
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Captain J on October 18, 2021, 02:07:25 PM
Clunking with the engine fully warmed up at idle RPM or cold with the choke still partially closed? 

With engine fully warmed up at idle.

Check the driveline u-joints to make sure they are tight with no visible evidence of rust tracks.  Give them a shot of grease if they are greaseable.  Then, with the park brake set, engine not running, and the transmission in neutral, check how many degrees of free rotation there are in the driveline, stop-to-stop.  Check the condition of the transmission mount.

I’ll check that, thanks 👍🏻
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Captain J on October 18, 2021, 02:08:29 PM
BD has the most likely answer, but....does it do the clunking while putting it into reverse?  A lot of shift kits make the hit into reverse hit harder as a side effect.
Yep only in reverse,
No shift kit installed
👋🏻
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: JohnnyPopper on October 18, 2021, 03:27:12 PM
2 or 4 wheel drive?
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Captain J on October 19, 2021, 07:14:12 AM
2 or 4 wheel drive?
4 wheel drive K2500
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: JohnnyPopper on October 19, 2021, 10:55:48 AM
Have someone shift from inside while you listen to isolate the location.

E-Brakes are your friend... ;)
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Captain J on October 20, 2021, 06:56:55 AM
Have someone shift from inside while you listen to isolate the location. 👍🏻👋🏻

E-Brakes are your friend... ;)
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: bd on November 17, 2021, 11:19:44 AM
I did what you suggested (to put gear in N, parking brake on, check the shaft to check movement), the shaft moves from stop to stop less than 4-6mm, very minimal movement.
The transmission mount is factory original, have some cracks.
I may need to change it, but it’s not causing the loud clunk noise.

You never answered the earlier questions:  Does the clunk occur only when the engine is cold and idling fast or every time the transmission is shifted into reverse, both at operating temperature and cold?  Are the u-joints tight and serviceable?  Any evidence of rust tracks?

Disconnect the rear driveline from the transfer case.  With the transfer case in 2H and the transmission in park, using a pair of channel-lock pliers or similar to firmly grasp the transfer case output shaft, how many degrees of rotation stop-to-stop?
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: JohnnyPopper on November 17, 2021, 07:49:09 PM
'You vill ansure ze question!'
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Shifty on November 18, 2021, 08:27:02 AM
Vee haff vays....
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: Captain J on December 13, 2021, 06:38:40 AM

Sorry for late reply, I had some medical issues with my back, preventing me from moving or conducting what you recommended, Dr orders.
So I asked someone to check, he said all u joints are ok, he said the clunck occurred at cold and hot temp. all I see is the transmission mount need to be replaced.
So I hope it’s all that,
Next week it will be in the garage for full service and I’ll ask the mechanic to conduct a full check including {{Disconnect the rear driveline from the transfer case.  With the transfer case in 2H and the transmission in park, using a pair of channel-lock pliers or similar to firmly grasp the transfer case output shaft, how many degrees of rotation stop-to-stop?}}👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


I did what you suggested (to put gear in N, parking brake on, check the shaft to check movement), the shaft moves from stop to stop less than 4-6mm, very minimal movement.
The transmission mount is factory original, have some cracks.
I may need to change it, but it’s not causing the loud clunk noise.

You never answered the earlier questions:  Does the clunk occur only when the engine is cold and idling fast or every time the transmission is shifted into reverse, both at operating temperature and cold?  Are the u-joints tight and serviceable?  Any evidence of rust tracks?

Disconnect the rear driveline from the transfer case.  With the transfer case in 2H and the transmission in park, using a pair of channel-lock pliers or similar to firmly grasp the transfer case output shaft, how many degrees of rotation stop-to-stop?
Title: Re: Clunk sound when in reverse
Post by: bd on December 13, 2021, 10:58:28 AM
I understand being incapacitated.  I've enjoyed little use of my hands and arms and struggled to walk for months on end.  Follow your doctor's orders and recover!

From my earlier PM:

I should explain that the recommended checks are intended to determine whether there is excessive wear concentrated in a particular part of the drivetrain.  Splined shafts wear, thus accumulate clearance.  It is a normal process.  Wear, however, is additive.  Small amounts of localized wear in the various splined connections, when added together, become significant and audible.  For instance, when changing the direction of rotation in the drivetrain, such as when shifting from a forward gear or park to reverse, the small amounts of play at each splined connection can add to produce a significant amount of rotation across the full length of the rotating assembly.  The result?  CLUNK!  So follow the recommendations and you may be able to determine if there is one or multiple sources causing the symptoms.

If you are going to take the truck to a shop you trust, just ask them to diagnose the clunk.  A full-service shop should have no problem evaluating the noise and whether it should be addressed.

Best wishes for your recovery!