Paint questions. Between Google and my painter, im lost

[87ChevyR10]

Acrylic urethane, acrylic enamel. Water based. I had to go google all the differences and I was told by a painter to look for waterbased paint as it is more widely used but also is reflective of the true color vs acrylic. But it is extremely hard to find in comparison to everything else. I can find my base exact color in everything but water based.

I'm planning to strip her to the metal, fix the minor dents/minor body work and then spray her down.

Do I really need waterbased?

I thought it would be easy to go find a primer and paint. Negative.

These are some of the options color wise I was looking at prior to being shifted in a diff direction.

https://tcpglobal.com/products/rsp-ub2519-kit-q?currency=USD&stkn=ea543c203691&gad_source=1https://www.thecoatingstore.com/product/midnight-blue-pearl-single-stage-kit/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145865360374?_skw=paint+kit+automotive&itmmeta=01JC07V009FHR6M39JAWFRP6WT&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKn1bNINUBtaFqNq2zTYpX0%2B7WpD8QxjhQOGrWXRnzaUcsdXSZqaAA2aTf93DxpjcqEfEQvCPlb9JjBLNqtSNmS5zH7V518rp2%2F0jA4Mm%2BQO%2FY%2Bmif6uHs4G3pr9Qn7%2FQKxMOV5HMhFfrvWvuXrQZXpEZ9v047ddfeaNRzQ8qXEqC0rWXcSc2IJI1Bz%2FdknQoQF02Ze%2FFdTB%2FsnqDvZcQUW99uLGGAGfoEqKT0%2FM8djeB8B9eW%2BxPw4y9MhZtqwuhawTyZBIG3sDxWPeaUirYKh802pVYK3zU81YtzlyTP5WHg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR56A7IfgZA

If someone could help this all make sense? Thanks in advance

[Mr Diesel]

I'm not a professional painter, but I have repainted a bunch of my own vehicles with good results.

Do NOT use an Enamel or any single stage. The color will not last long. Use any brand base coat/clear coat. The majority of work in painting a vehicle is all the sanding/prep work. Put a cheap coating on top and you will be doing it all over again soon. Or do it right the first time and it will look good for 20+ years (more if you garage it).

[zieg85]

You are going to get all kinds of answers.  What is the intended outcome.  Show quality perfect or something that is going to last a good while or make it nice to sell. 

[VileZambonie]

Waterborne is industry standard in collision repair. For restorations most stick with solvent based products.

[87ChevyR10]

You are going to get all kinds of answers.  What is the intended outcome.  Show quality perfect or something that is going to last a good while or make it nice to sell. 

Show quality? I just wanna bring her back to life! I'ma spray her too, well, some of, so there's naturally going to be some imperfections. But my painters are gon help me with it, so I am excited. I have the color picked out. Alot has happened and getting her back is now closer than ever for me. And to boot, man, I'm in a place that can really do her wonders.

I am working with my GM to video/photo and create some content in the shop. My ol lady said i should hit up corporate and try to use this as a promotional angle for them in restoring it for cost or even free, why not? Interesting thought, for sure.

[87ChevyR10]

Waterborne is industry standard in collision repair. For restorations most stick with solvent based products.

Yeah, I am coming to find.

But if its the industry standard, why do Summit, Eastwood, almost the entire online resellers carry everything BUT? It threw me for a loop for sure. Major headscratcher. I even looked on eBay and didn't find much. PPG has an entire line of it, but.....

[87ChevyR10]

I'm not a professional painter, but I have repainted a bunch of my own vehicles with good results.

Do NOT use an Enamel or any single stage. The color will not last long. Use any brand base coat/clear coat. The majority of work in painting a vehicle is all the sanding/prep work. Put a cheap coating on top and you will be doing it all over again soon. Or do it right the first time and it will look good for 20+ years (more if you garage it).

So I think they do 2 stage at work. Not 100% sure, base and clear I believe.

Yeah I have heard bout messing the clear coat up and it peeling and looking crazy sooner or later. Been looking at a lot of videos to learn, eventually I am planning to go through their program to really learn but for now? We gon make it work.

We had a chevy cashed out totaled, so the emblem i stripped off the grille for a test run on my taping, sanding and priming. We finally had a car come in in metallic dark blue today for paint and they sprayed the bowtie. It looked really sharp! I held it up to the truck picture, I can just envision it. I'll post a picture of it Monday. I'm two toning the bowtie to end up matching the grille/wheels and the two-tone blue/white paint

[VileZambonie]

Waterborne is industry standard in collision repair. For restorations most stick with solvent based products.

Yeah, I am coming to find.

But if its the industry standard, why do Summit, Eastwood, almost the entire online resellers carry everything BUT? It threw me for a loop for sure. Major headscratcher. I even looked on eBay and didn't find much. PPG has an entire line of it, but holy $%^&

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Collision Repair is not the same as restoration. When your car is in an accident, your insurance company pays a body shop to repair it and they use this paint system. The DIY community can still easily access solvent based products and they typically yield better results for restorations.

[JohnnyPopper]

This  ^^^^^^^

I agree about PPG- try buying in Cali----Yow!

[87ChevyR10]

Waterborne is industry standard in collision repair. For restorations most stick with solvent based products.

Yeah, I am coming to find.

But if its the industry standard, why do Summit, Eastwood, almost the entire online resellers carry everything BUT? It threw me for a loop for sure. Major headscratcher. I even looked on eBay and didn't find much. PPG has an entire line of it, but holy $%^&

I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Collision Repair is not the same as restoration. When your car is in an accident, your insurance company pays a body shop to repair it and they use this paint system. The DIY community can still easily access solvent based products and they typically yield better results for restorations.

Nah, i getcha. It just threw me off because I had no idea of this until delving into all of this.

Today I learned, indeed.

[ehjorten]

Here are a few facts about waterborne paints:
1) They are not as durable as Solvent borne paints due to less cross linking.
2) Waterborne paints are thinner and show more substrate defects (your bodywork has to be much better).
3) Waterborne requires more process control (narrower application window, i.e. humidity control) than solvent borne.
4) New mix systems are required (stainless steel).
5) Waterborne require a high bake (>200 °F) for productivity because it takes a long time to air-dry.