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Title: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: JohnnyPopper on November 23, 2023, 04:45:12 PM
The supplier states that using an impact wrench may damage the shock.

Any truth to that from your experience?

I recently changed my old ones to KYB and the left rear froze after a couple of weeks.

It's quite an experience to have your bed start oscillating violently upon hitting a bump! Like it's going to tear the truck apart. 

Changing them again to Bilstein and thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: Shifty on November 27, 2023, 10:12:53 AM
I don't know about damaging the shock, but they sure damaged my elbow trying to remove the old Monroe Gas Mags that someone definitely used an impact to install.  I had a cheater-bar, and one foot on the diff-tube, one on the brake drum trying to get it loose (no rust, but still soaked with PB Blaster).  Luckily, it gave the same time my elbow did....took two years to get the elbow back BTW.   :o
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: Scott91370 on November 27, 2023, 04:49:47 PM
Since shocks do not travel in a straight line and you tighten them down too far they won't have needed  movement.
Don't know if it will damage them but seem unnecessary. 
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: VileZambonie on November 27, 2023, 05:32:31 PM
Using an impact to drive on a nut that compresses a bushing with the potential of 1100 ft-lbs when 75 is spec... they gotta put warning labels on everything these days.
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: JohnnyPopper on November 27, 2023, 08:04:11 PM
Using an impact to drive on a nut that compresses a bushing with the potential of 1100 ft-lbs when 75 is spec... they gotta put warning labels on everything these days.

Ah, makes sense. If too much torque is applied to the point where the shaft bends could be a problem.

I'm sure bd could articulate the physics, as well as many others here. I plan on being a physicist in a couple hundred years from now. Seriously. Just not today...

Thanks guys!!!
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: Shifty on November 28, 2023, 09:24:26 AM
Using an impact to drive on a nut that compresses a bushing with the potential of 1100 ft-lbs when 75 is spec... they gotta put warning labels on everything these days.
Too many NASCAR viewers.... ;)
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: bd on November 28, 2023, 06:59:25 PM
Adding two more cents, although every threaded fastener has a specified torque, shock mount bolt/stud torques aren't critical values as long as they aren't severely off target, meaning sufficiently tight that the fasteners suitably compress the bushings and won't loosen with use yet not so tight that the bushings distort excessively or the threads strip. 

Generally, shock eye bushings have inner sleeves that limit the bushing crush.  Once the bolt or nut seats against the sleeve it won't compress the bushing any further, regardless of applied torque.  Tightening the fasteners too much further beyond seating the sleeves only stresses the threads (and the next guy who has to service the shocks).

Threaded pins that protrude axially from the ends of shocks can be less forgiving.  Most pins are only partially threaded or have shoulders that limit nut travel, thus, bushing compression.  But, some have no thread limiting features and bushings can compress to the point of splitting.  Installer beware.

Ultimately, one shouldn't use an impact wrench until (s)he has the experience to use it appropriately.  When in question, use a torque wrench and some anti-seize.
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: Shifty on November 29, 2023, 09:26:51 AM
BD, you have a Delorean with a flux capacitor?  The previous owner of my truck could use good advice....
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: bd on November 29, 2023, 10:05:57 AM
Got rid of them.  Been to the future.  Came back to ride it out.   ::)

If only foresight was 20/20.   :(
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: Shifty on November 29, 2023, 12:56:04 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Installing shocks with an impact wrench
Post by: Captkaos on November 30, 2023, 05:27:44 PM
Got rid of them.  Been to the future.  Came back to ride it out.   ::)

If only foresight was 20/20.   :(

LOL