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Offline usflyboy64d

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crate engine help
« on: August 01, 2011, 10:57:11 AM »
Hey y'all I've got a 1982 k10 that i am in the process of the parts buying stage to restore. My plan is to get the drive line right and ready to go and then work on the body/interior. The engine that came in my truck when i bought it was the cheep GM casting # 10066036. It is starting to white smoke at first crank which leaves me to believe that the rings are shot. The true milage of the truck is unknown. The truck came with a factor 305 so I'm grateful that they swapped it out to a 350. Anyway I'm looking at replacing the tired worn gm crate with a new turn key crate. I have put some serious thought and research in to what i am looking for. I want at least 320hp to the wheels and all the tq i can get. I would like the tq to be in the 400 ft lb range. I have looked at the Phoenix 1014 engine.....http://www.phoenixengine.com/Chevy-20.html ...... and was wondering if anyone has bought engines from them before and what they thought about the company. I would like to keep the total cost of the turnkey engine around 4,000.00. I still have about 9 months before i order cause i am in Afghanistan, so i have time to do more research, but this seems to fit the bill. Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. i also will be running it with a th350 and a np203 transfercase, it will be sitting on 35 inch tires as well. thanks again for the advice.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 11:25:25 AM »
thought about a 383? way more torque...and since you already have a 350, all the external parts will swap over.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 11:47:36 AM »
i have but looking to stay at under 4000$. and i want to have all the exteranls replaced as well, looks like everything on that motor is cheap but i got the truck for 1200$ with minimal rust so i cant complain too much. i knew when i bought the truck everything was going to get replaced.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 01:23:55 PM »
If its only blowing a puff of smoke at startup its likely only your valve guides/seals.  Buy some upgraded heads and put the remaining $3000+ toward something else.  If you want a torque monster you'll need a 383 or 400.  You could easily put a fresh 383 in it for under $4000.  If by "externals" you're just talking about water pump, harmonic balancer, upgrade ignition, plug wires, I think you could still swing it on your budget.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 02:20:44 PM »
check out sgtdel profile, he did a 383 swap

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Re: crate engine help
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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 01:06:09 AM »
thanks for the link but do you know where he got the engine from? i was trying to find it but not succesful. any other links to crate engines eaither 350, 383, or 400 would be awsome. thanks

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 01:18:00 AM »
just found this ;D http://www.precisionengine.com/rebuilt-engines/chevy-gmc-crate-engines/suburban383.html  ;D wondering if it sounds like a good deal, its in price range and the top end stuff is too easy to come buy.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 07:53:45 AM »
Search ebay for tuffdawg engines.  That's where SgtDel got his and I was considering them as well.  They have a nice line of 383's and 350's for decent prices.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 11:27:42 AM »
thanks i will be looking into those as well.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 06:35:16 PM »
Have you checked with local machine shops? i considered a crate engine but I was able to get a lot more engine, built to my specs for a lot less than a crate engine. about 2k for 393 hp and 432 tq  350 assembled machined block heads balanced and dynoed and internal parts. I installed the intake, carb, dist wires etc before the dyno. If you have someone who can check around for you that may be a better way to go.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2011, 10:00:56 PM »
in my area (the fort hood area) there are not too many machine shops, plus the ones that are there i dont really trust. i have heard nothing but bad things from other guys who have gotten work done by them. thats why i was leaning towards a crate engine. thanks for the idea but i have already looked into that route.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2011, 11:10:35 PM »
I was kind of in your position. I've ordered one from tuffdawg engines on eBay, still waiting, 8 weeks and counting. He said 6 weeks to assemble, yet I'm still waiting. Darl is pretty good at responding to my e-mails, however I find that he's not very informative in his replies. I'll try to keep you posted.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 07:41:26 AM »
sbx thanks for the reply, let me know how the engine turns out and how long it takes to get to you. i have plenty of time as i stated i am in afgan. so i can order as early as 6 months out if i have too as long as the price is good and it is a good product.

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Re: crate engine help
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 10:46:00 PM »
It was a long 11 1/2 weeks, but my rebuilt 350 is finally here. I'll probably be making a thread somewhere and will be posting pics of my build.