I didn't mean they were crap, it was just a catch all, lol. I may just go with the ACDelco plugs, I hear they're made by NGK, though. Anyone have any thoughts on those Napa wires, though? The NGK plugs may be made in Japan, or they may be made in Virginia. The Napa wires may be made in the USA, I'm not sure. May go look today if they're open.