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Title: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 12, 2020, 05:48:30 PM
What's happening in your area?

In Connecticut, schools are closing like crazy and everyone is hoarding TP. I'm thinking about hitting the packy and stocking up :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 12, 2020, 06:49:14 PM
It is stupid everywhere.  The media has really blown this way out of proportion.  I've seen a couple of interviews with patients that had it.  Less in severity than the 24hr flu.  I can't believe the panic.  Folks are real gall-able.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on March 12, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
The MSM need to quit screwing with America.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 12, 2020, 06:55:59 PM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 12, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Z85's post pretty-much sums it up for me.

I have a very sick 78yo woman I care for. (my Mother)  We use Lysol around our house, on a regular basis, for a number of things.  For the last coupla' weeks, I can't even score so much as one can. 


*The whole "toilet paper" thing just boggles the heck out of me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 13, 2020, 08:30:01 AM
It isn't hype and over-reaction guys!  Okay...stocking up on TP is an over-reaction.  It isn't that millions of people are going to die!  It is that the infection rates are really high and community spread is running rampant.  If we don't take proactive measures to reduce the rate of infection, people are going to get sick.  Some will die, but it will overwhelm our healthcare system and people that need care won't be able to get it!  Then more people will die!

China has reached an inflection point in the number of cases.  Their infection rate has slowed down.  That is a good sign!  The last look at the known cases shows that they have about 30 days for a doubling of the number of infected.  As of March 10th in the USA the infection rate doubled in just 2 days.  Yes we don't have the number of cases as in China, but if we don't slow it down, we will see a lot more people infected very rapidly.  And again...a lot of people won't die, but they could be a carrier and give it to someone that is in a high-risk group.  Maybe you give it to your grandma and she dies?!

Also...you don't realize that our healthcare system is in a really vulnerable spot right now!  Healthcare workers can't even get masks!  They just aren't available anywhere.  They are rationing masks and only wearing them for really sick people.  Where do you think our masks come from???  China!  What do you think will happen when all of your doctor's office staff are quarantined for 14 days?  Also...medicines.  There are a lot of medicines that you can't go and get an extra prescription for so that when you are quarantined for 2 weeks you have enough, for example.  Why?  Because the bases for those medicines come from?...you guessed it...China!

Here in the epicenter of SARS-CoV-2, the official name of the virus, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2.  Yes...it is a type of SARS.  Here in the epicenter in Kirkland, WA where I work, schools are now shutdown in King, Snohomish, & Pierce countries until April 24th.  Boeing white collar workers are all working from home.  Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, all working from home.  University of Washington, Eastern Washington University, local community colleges, all online classes.  Of course, my work at PACCAR goes on!  We are keeping the lights on here in the Seattle Area!  We are talking about working remotely, but for now we are soldiering on and washing our hands religiously!

Finally...one of the single best resources for information about the virus that is both objective and fact-based, and also acknowledges the difficulty in knowing the true population of the infected is: ourworldindata.org/coronavirus (http://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bd on March 13, 2020, 12:01:14 PM
I concur with Erik.  Although sidestream media is whipping circumstances into a froth to promote an agenda of political bashing to undermine social structure as effectively as they can, the underlying premise of world alarm is sound and potentially devastating if people at large don't apply precautionary judgment in their actions to help slow down the advance of the contagion.  But, that isn't to promote irresponsible overreaction.  People still have to live and carry on with life routines. 

Some good news is as seasonal weather warms our hemisphere, regional coronavirus cases should decrease markedly.  The caveat is that in greatest likelihood it will gain a strengthened foothold in the southern hemisphere.  For all intents and purposes, the current as well as new variants of coronavirus are here to stay and will surge periodically with the advent of cool seasons.  Hopefully, by the next "flu season" an effective vaccine will be ready for broad distribution. 

In the meantime, don't take careless risks.  Rather, employ rational additional precautions to help safeguard yourselves and loved ones.  A question to consider under pandemic circumstances is, "If I can do something to help manage the disease, yet don't when I have that opportunity, and the people I care about most suffer as a result ... am I remiss?"  Simply stated, it can't hurt anybody to be sensible and apply beyond normal precautions in an attempt to help ameliorate and manage the spread of illness when opportunities present themselves.  It is simply one of the responsibilities of living in a society.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 13, 2020, 03:36:35 PM
Well, I'm officially on vacation for at least 2 weeks and possibly longer. There's definitely going to be some economic impacts that will hit us all. Let's just hope we all stay healthy.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 13, 2020, 10:46:15 PM
md schools are closed till april, prison life is taking measures to try and prevent anyone from getting it from screening new inmates for 2 weeks to talks about if we do have anything pop up everyone (staff included) will be quarantined. its crazy about the tp. people around here will freak over the thought of snow and buy the tp/milk and bread but since its nation wide you cant even buy tp on amazon. saw someone on facebook selling a roll for $2
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 14, 2020, 01:40:40 AM
I wanted to add...

Taking necessary precautions...cancelling or limiting mass gatherings, limiting unnecessary travel, self containment of the sick, early detection and treatment, doing things to strangle the spread of the virus, etc...are ALL prudent and necessary actions.  I take absolutely ZERO exception to any of those things.

But, for the folks who are emptying grocery stores, and panic-buying generators and the like, my message would be, "You're doing it wrong.  You're adding to the problem(s), not the solution(s)."


Just my humble opinion.  Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Jason S on March 14, 2020, 09:20:24 PM
In my part of the world, schools were out last week for spring break and most will be out this coming week.

After returning back to Texas from a week long spring break vacation with the kids, on the way home we stopped at an Academy Sports to get baseball gear. Since we don't often get to Academy, I went looking around and saw that, with exception of the astronaut ice cream, their freeze dried food section was cleared out (along with other items through the store).

Then had a stop at Walmart Neighborhood Market to get pet food and noticed the canned goods section had been picked over pretty well.  Then noticed a few aisles down that the TP section was wiped clean (pun intended). 

Our trip was to Washington DC and things were fine until Thursday.  There was only one cancellation for a pre-scheduled tour (i.e., Pentagon). We were on the last of the tours for the Capital before they closed off public access. Also the last tour of the last day for the Library of Congress. The signs on the LOC stated they would close on 3/12 and reopen on 4/1.  Smithsonian museums remained open until Friday (our last planned day there) and said they'd be closed today.

Not sure if it was just our flight time today (06:15 am) from DC to Dallas or if it was people abstaining from flight, but our Southwest flight was about 50 persons shy of full capacity.

I reckon we'll wait and see as we work on sorting through spring break photos to print.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 14, 2020, 10:26:27 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/dean-koontz-book-predicted-coronavirus  see page 312 in picture
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 14, 2020, 10:57:45 PM
Wow, Zieg85 thats creepy! Anyway, the sky is not falling. And this is not political. But, I strongly feel that Trump, Pence and the CV task force are doing an incredible job, they are so on top of this thing. It is so encouraging to watch them nearly every day giving us a full update on every phase of this thing. Our President is keeping things in order and bringing folks and communities together. Of course there will always be a few knuckle heads fighting over stupid toilet paper, but that too will pass, deliveries and supplies are in full force. Some folks are acting like this is a natural disaster, like its weather related. Again, I am not speaking left or right, it is very calming and encouraging to see both sides work together on this. Just watching those Dr's speak and our Pres. also, very calm and reassuring, their tone is with high confidence, like they are not missing a beat. I believe this thing will pass sooner than later. I lost $65k on the market, but i know that too will come back with a vengeance. Here in MA, all is shut down, the Govt. is having me work from home, telework. Praying all are well.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 16, 2020, 09:53:25 AM
Here is an article that articulates a large part of the issue and why we are having to shutdown events and social gatherings, universities, and in some states now they are temporarily shutting down restaurants and bars!

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-outbreak-testing-delays-60a25ce6-f08d-438f-b294-358e0c300d95.html

I have several family and friends in various states that have confirmed this.  We don't have test kits!  I have family in California.  My sister-in-law and one of her sons had came down with a fever, dry cough, body aches.  They went to the doctor and were told that because they weren't in the high risk category, they wouldn't test them.  My sister-in-law questioned them about not having test kits and they admitted that they didn't have any!  That is just one latest example.  Now whether we don't have test kits because of a lack of a serious and timely response, whether the US government decided not to use WHO test kits, or whether it is just a demand that is higher than production can keep up with, I don't know, but if we don't know who is infected, we can't isolate them and determine who they have been in contact with.  So...we are left with taking more drastic measures to try and slow this thing down.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on March 16, 2020, 06:30:36 PM
Well, I'm officially on vacation for at least 2 weeks and possibly longer. There's definitely going to be some economic impacts that will hit us all. Let's just hope we all stay healthy.

I live in the immediate Austin, TX area, and deliberately took last week off (starting 7 March) in anticipation of the SXSW horde descending upon us, as well as those attending events out at our F1 venue.  While those threats never fully materialized, others ultimately have.  My town is on one of two direct corridors between Austin and Houston - Texas' largest hotbed of virus communication.  As a matter of self preservation, I have self-sequestered myself here at my home, leaving only when absolutely essential for A to B trips.  I live alone, so I don't have to worry about kids or spouses.  I have asked my friends to refrain from visiting my home for the foreseeable future, in an effort to preserve the relative safety of its confines.

My biggest reasons for taking such steps are these:  Although I am well below the determined age threshold, I am one of those with who face an elevated risk of life-threatening contamination.  In addition to being a diabetic, a little more than two years ago I contracted a case of the flu; the same one that took a young teacher's life in northern Texas (she was 20-years my junior). Pneumonia ended up setting in, and after an initial 3 days in the ICU fighting for my own life, I spent an additional 10 days in the hospital trying to recover.  While I obviously did, the experience left me with a measure of permanent respiratory damage.  The mere thought of entering a hospital due to illness after those experiences is completely unpalatable to me.

As all of you know, colleges and universities across the country have largely extended Spring Break for another week, with many planning online instruction for the foreseeable future.  However, essential staff must return this upcoming Monday in order to help facilitate this endeavor.  As I work for one of these institutions, I'm more than a little bit apprehensive, with my own history being what it is, about having to work alongside members of my own staff, despite the absence of students.  In an effort to protect them as well as myself, I intend to allow them to use accrued vacation time wherever possible in order to help mitigate any potential problems.  Obviously there is only so much any of us can do, and we must try and depend on those closest to us to do their part in order to slow the progression of this virus.  I learned yesterday that one of our students - not necessarily in our division - was suspected of having symptoms, but is now self-quarantining with their family. 

It doesn't take much for this terrible thing to show up on our very doorsteps, as I have just described, and as our own president himself has now experienced first-hand.  It has transcended politics as well as any and all media outlets, and it was gratifying today to hear him speak out more deliberately and plainly about the continued threat to our country's health, both physically and economically.

I fear the worst is yet to come, and when it does we must trust in the mettle of this country to see us through. We circled the wagons when our enemies were off our coasts in WWII, when they were a mere 90 miles away in the 60's, and on our very soil on 9/11.  We rose up and stood tall then, and I believe we are more than capable of doing it again.

We must keep our heads, and be smart.

Speaking of "heads", I predict an immediate boom in the plumbing services industry, as they go house to house, pulling even more paper towels, coffee filters and even strips of clothing than usual from pipes across the country.

Uh-oh, I think I might have just started a run on coffee filters! ::)

Be safe out there,

bake315
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on March 17, 2020, 04:57:19 PM
Fear and panic. It's out of control. No matter what anyone tells you, it's really just another version of the flu. And unless you have a compromised immune system, your body will fight it off or not even be affected by it. It's not a zombie apocalypse, just the flu. The only way to avoid it is to stay indoors and hide from the world, because if you step outside and your neighbor sneezes the wind will carry the germs over to you and you will be exposed. Every year you try to avoid the common cold and the flu by washing your hands and not having physical contact with people, and every year you either get a cold/flu or your body just fights it off. It's not the plague, just the flu. Here is a good article.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/9/coronavirus-stop-the-hysteria/

Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 18, 2020, 10:24:50 PM
A little bit of good news: Its been reported China has not had a case in 24 hrs. Is that the truth, i hope so.

It is encouraging to see our president and the CV task force make daily updates. Massive plans are being made daily in so many areas. However, i feel like not watching the news or hearing the radio for two weeks, sick of the added hype and fear. Sick of watching the stock market plunge into the abyss. But, this too shall pass.

ps. mr diesel, that is a great article.

pss. dont listen to npr!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 19, 2020, 10:26:22 AM
I am sharing this post because I found the explanation helpful and thought maybe others would too!
Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...
It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.
Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.
Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..
H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
Fast forward.
Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”
This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.
And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..
That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...
And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.
#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on March 19, 2020, 12:48:02 PM
Breaking news:

Hydrocloroquine, a malaria drug from 1940's has been tested by a French lab, peer reviewed and found to be efficacious in treating Covid-19.

"100% of patients, after 6 days were 'virologically cured"

It's cheap and plentiful, Trump ordered FDA to look into it STAT!

CNBC
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 19, 2020, 01:23:08 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus-fda-1493293
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 21, 2020, 06:48:56 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus-fda-1493293
Sure hope that stuff proves safe and effective!

Psalms 91:3
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 22, 2020, 02:45:08 AM
i think its pretty stupid when "everyone" has off and acts like theyre on vacations and it takes the governors to close the beaches like they had to do in Florida and now in Delaware. traffic was crazy the other day when i was trying to leave work. not to mention we now have city folk invading our country lives just to get out of the city and they bring everything with them like the virus and city mentality
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 22, 2020, 06:23:32 PM
Yup.

People hoarding and not being considerate of others.  Guns and ammo sales rocketing.  Our own Media fanning the flames of fear and panic.


...It's a pretty humiliating time to be a human.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on March 22, 2020, 07:57:58 PM
i think its pretty stupid when "everyone" has off and acts like theyre on vacations and it takes the governors to close the beaches like they had to do in Florida and now in Delaware. traffic was crazy the other day when i was trying to leave work. not to mention we now have city folk invading our country lives just to get out of the city and they bring everything with them like the virus and city mentality

Is O.C. closed?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 23, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
they did yesterday till april 15th
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on March 23, 2020, 03:53:42 PM
For those of you in full social distancing mode right now, here are some interesting articles and facts that provide some perspective:

Total U.S. deaths attributed to the China virus as of March 20th: 201
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101932/coronavirus-covid19-cases-and-deaths-number-us-americans/
Keep in mind this latest China virus started back in 2019, so it has actually been in existence for months now. It is also no coincidence that it is occurring during the same time of year as the flu, given that its cause and behavior is very similar to the flu. Treatment for it is exactly the same as the flu too (except for the latest experimental use of Hydrocloroquine).

Total U.S. deaths attributed to the flu during the 2018-2019 flu season: 34,200
Total U.S. deaths attributed to the flu during the 2017-2018 flu season: 61,000  (which was classified as an epidemic)
https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year
I don't remember people panicking and storming the toilet paper shelves back in 2018. I don't remember anyone warning me to stay indoors and avoid groups larger than 10 people. Maybe I should have been panicking back then and just didn't. Looking back on it now I don't understand how I remained so calm given the epidemic proportions. Maybe it had something to do with the fact this actually happens every year.
The above article has a great quote from a doctor:
Quote
The fact that people are more concerned about COVID-19 than the flu virus is no surprise, says Dr. Adalja. “Anytime there is a new emerging infectious disease that is shrouded in mystery with a lot of unknowns, it captivates people in a way that a regular virus that people deal with on a yearly basis won’t,” he says.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 24, 2020, 07:27:25 AM
Yet they announced another 150 US deaths overnight. I don't believe any of the media sources and data statistics since they can't capture the true picture of what is happening. Let's face it, there isn't enough infrastructure around adequately testing or treating this. I'm sure plenty of people have had it, have it or already died from it, none of which is recorded in stats.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 24, 2020, 11:28:53 AM
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus (http://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus)

People don't understand exponential growth, it is true!  The fact that we don't have resources in place to care for the rapid growth is what is causing the issue.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 25, 2020, 09:01:31 AM
Yeah...it's just like the flu!

https://apnews.com/b08afe589e0d6dae9469c8211157199c

I have a daughter-in-law that is a nurse in Ohio and the shoot that they are having to do, go without, and hours they are working...yeah, it is just like the flu!  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 25, 2020, 01:28:19 PM
NY Metro is coming apart at the seams. Yet they are still holding "coronavirus parties", weddings and such. AND....many of these NY'ers are then going to their second homes in upper VT, NH and ME. A friend up there who delivers mail saw a large sign and it stated "Flatties go home. " I dont blame them for not wanting the careless NY'ers in their small towns.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 25, 2020, 02:05:31 PM
Same thing is happening on the West Coast...Portlanders coming in droves to the small coastal communities.  My hometown put the clamps on it and shutdown hotels, motels, parks, campgrounds, and beach approaches.  Told those vacationing there they have 48 hours to vacate and go home!  People came down and cleared the shelves of local markets that had supplies.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 25, 2020, 03:24:06 PM
i was listening to the radio and they had one of those people from NY who went to a wedding party and they gave the excuse "it was against their religion to cancel a wedding once it was scheduled". its that type of mentality that can really screw everything up
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 25, 2020, 05:05:05 PM
...and (supposedly) New Yorkers are fleeing their city en masse. 


I guess it's suddenly not very hip to live packed like sardines with folks from all over the globe.  Funny how that works.  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 25, 2020, 06:41:11 PM
Don't even get me started on these people...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on March 25, 2020, 07:02:51 PM
they did yesterday till april 15th

Wow.  Never heard of that happening---except during hurricanes.

For those that aren't familiar, "O.C." means Ocean City:  A beach resort town "near" Irish and me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on March 25, 2020, 10:33:38 PM
Can't even buy a frikkin' can of tomato soup around here.  Frikkin' hoarders...  People don't seem to get that if they just calm the heck down, the food supply (and the toilet paper supplies) are fine.  Take a breath!  No household needs 40 gallons of Purell! Resume shopping the way you always have, and let the supply chains catch up.  Stop grabbing all of everything you can lay your hands on!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on March 25, 2020, 10:37:41 PM
"it was against their religion to cancel a wedding once it was scheduled".
That is one of the most ridiculous excuses I have heard yet!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on March 26, 2020, 10:09:51 PM
yeah...Religion is going to come under unusual scrutiny soon...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 26, 2020, 10:32:08 PM
I'm thinking about breaking-out a bottle of Jack, watching the news, and taking a shot every time they say "Coronavirus" or "COVID 19".
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 27, 2020, 08:22:34 AM
Thinking about it? Sounds like you've got some catching up to do.  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on March 27, 2020, 09:27:05 AM
Thinking about it? Sounds like you've got some catching up to do.  8)
Can't catch the virus if you're full of alcohol.... ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 27, 2020, 11:36:25 AM
Follow Ozzy's recommendations:

Bite the head off bats and lower the blood count in your alcohol system  :P
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on March 27, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
Crikey! Make sure they're not Wuhan bats!!  :o

Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 27, 2020, 10:24:37 PM
Word of advice,,,Don't eat bats on a stick from Ching-Ching...

I know, sorry...its an npr article.


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/01/31/800975655/why-theyre-called-wet-markets-and-what-health-risks-they-might-pose
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 28, 2020, 08:38:14 PM
So ironically the Chinese restaurant near here is closed. It's bizarre because they are always super busy. Wondering if they had an outbreak and are keeping it hush. Everyone thinks they have it... I went to the gas station, everyone is looking at each other like weirdos. Went to the package store, same deal. We all had blue gloves on, I hope this isn't the new norm.   ???
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 29, 2020, 12:15:06 AM
Our City Council is filled with a buncha' morons.  But, when I found Spec's open the other day, I knew that the Council at least had a basic understanding of the term, "Essential Business".

Parents forced to be around their rug-rats 24/7, in the absence of alcohol, would cause a panic and emergency like no other.  :o



EDIT- Here in Tejas, we can only buy beer and wine at grocery stores...none of the hard stuff.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 29, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
delaware has been in a "state of emergency" closed all beaches and tourist attractions. they even went as far and closing all non-essential places too. but then had to redefine "essential" and its BS, they include florist into the essential category and a lot other places. pretty much they want people to go to work but nothing else, no having fun with others only at home. needless to say i have a few hundred rounds of 10mm coming in the mail and should be here in a few days lol
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 29, 2020, 05:03:01 PM
If they closed package stores there would be some seriously bad stuff happening. lol
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 29, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
I got those nasty looks too at Wmart and Lowes. If you even clear your throat people get out of your way. I think if you cough or sneeze they call the police. lol

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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on April 03, 2020, 12:04:35 AM
I was taking the gooseneck back to the Farm today, and heard a figure of "55%".  That's how much liquor sales have boomed over the norm in the last few weeks.

I was switching through the channels when I heard that on the radio.  I didn't hear if that figure was just for San Antone (Bexar County) or nationwide.



*On an unrelated note, the silt in the barn (a mixture of cow manure and Texas sandy loam) is worse than the sand at the beach.  My 9200# Ram chassis, with the 5500# gooseneck attached, imitates a submarine in the stuff.  So, after dealing with the axle wrap, I went to engage the 4WD (to back the trailer into its parking slot) and immediately noted that the shifter was floppy.  For any of you who have owned Rams, the grommets (that hold the linkage between the in-cab shifter and the lever on the transfer case) sh__ the bed (after 7 years).  Lovely.  >:(

The rainbow after the storm was that the linkage let go at the end of the shifter, and came to rest on a cross-member.  So, lucky for me, I didn't lose the linkage.  Woo-hoo! :D
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 03, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
I was taking the gooseneck back to the Farm today, and heard a figure of "55%".  That's how much liquor sales have boomed over the norm in the last few weeks.

See, people aren't as dumb as we thought.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on April 03, 2020, 08:37:59 PM
This is just one person's perspective on the whole "crisis."  And while i don't necessarily agree with EVERY one of his points, i think it's one of the clearest explanations lately.   Also, i give John Oliver a lot of credibility.

i would link all three parts, so far of his coronavirus videos, but there is some "spicy" language in them and i know Chris doesn't like me providing those types of links.

So, if it would be alright, i would link the Last Week Tonight 'Tube page and you can easily find parts 1,2, and 3:

https://www.youtube.com/user/LastWeekTonight
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on April 04, 2020, 08:04:29 PM
P.S.
We are under lockdown/stay-at-home orders here in the balto/dc area.   Since last tuesday, i think.

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 05, 2020, 05:43:42 AM
 Late to the party.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 07, 2020, 06:26:36 PM
So a woman who works in our school system died from coronavirus today. We all want to believe it's fake news but seems to be potent enough to take out anyone. She was 50 I believe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: roundhouse on April 08, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/01/825107853/hundreds-of-covid-19-cases-inundate-georgia-hospital

It depends on where you are
Some places are in really bad shape


And the preppers and survival folks are looking pretty smart right now.

As we have all learned, if you don’t already have what you need, you’re not going to be able to buy it when you decide you do need it.

I grew up in a rural Appalachian area with frequent power outages and sometimes big snowstorms
    Everyone had a way to keep warm that didn’t require electricity and plenty of canned food, usually the home made canned kind in glass jars.
   And everyone had plenty of guns and ammo, and several five gallon cans of gasoline.  My father never brought a vehicle home with less than 3/4 tank of gas.  Every gas station within 50 miles closed at 10 PM.
    If you had to leave in the middle of the night for an emergency and didn’t have a full tank, you weren’t going anywhere .



I didn’t stock up on T paper, but I did get some more .223, .38, .380, and 9mm and in the same trip, hit the grocery store for bacon, beans and bread.

   Some places have closed the gun stores while at the same time emptying their jails and announcing that no one will be arrested for anything short of murder.
    What could possibly go wrong ?

You’ve seen how people act trying to buy T paper, wait till the grocery stores are empty of actual food, and the gas stations are dry for a few days.  Or their EBT food stamp card stops working .
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: roundhouse on April 08, 2020, 10:40:55 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/news/farmers-are-panic-buying-to-keep-america-e2-80-99s-95-million-cows-fed/ar-BB12jy9v

The food supply chain could collapse soon
   The ethanol refineries are shutting down since the gasoline sales have dropped so much .
  The waste from the ethanol refineries is a major ingredient in animal feed.

The American consumers and businesses have to be the stupidest in the world.
  Allowing a communist nation halfway around the world to steal all your manufacturing including 95% of medical supplies like masks and gloves and 98% of all pharmaceutical medicines and feedstocks is a really really stupid thing.

All this “just in time “ inventory delivery is going to come back to haunt us all.
   If the trucks stop rolling, this country is toast.

Some states like PA have actually closed their rest areas so the truckers have nowhere to park and rest.
Really? This is the govts idea of smart?

Alot the truck stop restaurants are closed, so the drivers have to park and go into grocery stores with the hordes of people , half of whom Probabaly have the carona, and stock up on food To take with them on their run.

It’s almost like China did this on purpose. They’ve already knocked out several aircraft carriers with their virus, and who knows how many other ships and bases are out of commission.



And how about this genius idea https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wthr.com/article/vermont-orders-walmart-target-stop-selling-non-essential-items-store%3famp


I saw an article , can’t find the link now
That was about a company that makes medical masks and they could expand and make more but won’t, because in the last H1N1 event they did expand and as soon as it was over all the hospitals went back to buying cheaper masks  from China.

Owner says if he spends millions and expands now to meet the demand , he will just  get left holding the bag when this is over , and all the hospitals start buying masks from the commies again
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on April 08, 2020, 10:11:23 PM
Huh...so thats it? Humanity is going to end in a few weeks? Not so! (at least not until daniel's 70'th week anyway)

No deliveries will stop, no groceries stores will close, nor wall mart, nor lowes/home depot. The trucks will keep moving.

I think we'll be in real good shape by June 1st. One blip of good news and stocks seem to soar. It appears the economy is a dormant volcano getting quite warm.

Not going to fear or let doom and gloom ruin my day.


II Tim 1:7
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on April 09, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
Phil,

Didn't Daniel's 70th week (of years)  end when Cornelius accepted the 'truth'.

Look out for the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3-4

Jpop
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on April 10, 2020, 12:41:28 PM
Phil,

Didn't Daniel's 70th week (of years)  end when Cornelius accepted the 'truth'.

Look out for the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3-4

Jpop

Glad you asked JP, and not to derail from coronavirus, and I won't, nor will I mention this anywhere else on a chevy forum, this is a one time thing to answer your question. Therefore... from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem (Ezra 1:1-5) to the cutting off of the Messiah (the cross), is 69 weeks/483 years. The final week (70th), begins the moment the Antichrist signs a covenant with Israel to rebuild the temple. Soon after, (possibly hours,days) we will have the "rapture", Christ will remove all his saints from earth (all and any human that has repented of their sins and trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior). At the end of the 70th week (7 years of tribulation on earth which will be like 9/11 X 10 on every street in the world, prepping or a bug-out bag will do nothing), the Lord will return to Earth to rule and reign for 1000 years, this is the millennium, a new restored perfect earth with obviously a perfect world government system which will be operated by one person....you guessed it. Then after that we are ushered into eternity. That pretty much wraps it up. Therefore, to answer your question...no particular event officially "ends" the 70th week, just time.

Yes, I know this is a chevy forum, and as stated, i will NOT get into spiritual things here unless someone asks AND I am permitted by the administrators. I know, folks get a little agitated on the topics of religion and politics, I get it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Blazin on May 29, 2020, 10:26:24 AM
Been months since I've been in here.
I am 99.8% sure I had it over Valentine week.
People say they've never been so sick in their life.
I have never been so giggered sick in my entire life. Fever, dizziness, cough, & cough, & cough until I almost could breath, Surely not enough air to cough again. but my body still tried to cough. My sense of smell, & taste were all screwed up. Hurt all over, felt like I'd gone a few rounds with a few other guys.
My wife said when I was asleep it sounded like I had a baby rattle in my chest.
Was sick for about ten days. Felt like I'd been hit by a truck for a week after. Tired, and zero energy for about 3/4 weeks afterward.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on May 29, 2020, 02:59:33 PM
Happy to see your OK now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 30, 2020, 05:18:28 AM
Looking back at January/February I think it went through my house too. I had the same symptoms plus 3 weeks of endless lower back pain for no good reason. I don't know what to believe anymore but I'm over all of this !
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 30, 2020, 01:45:07 PM
Just a side note:

Apparently, you CAN put a disposable mask in the washing machine and dryer and it will come out fine and clean----at least once.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: fitz on June 01, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
Blazin,
It's good to have you back on the site.
Congratulations on your marriage.
Hopefully you made a full recovery from your illness.
Any updates on your fleet?  Is Yellow snow still around?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on June 01, 2020, 11:32:10 PM
Been months since I've been in here.
I am 99.8% sure I had it over Valentine week.
People say they've never been so sick in their life.
I have never been so giggered sick in my entire life. Fever, dizziness, cough, & cough, & cough until I almost could breath, Surely not enough air to cough again. but my body still tried to cough. My sense of smell, & taste were all screwed up. Hurt all over, felt like I'd gone a few rounds with a few other guys.
My wife said when I was asleep it sounded like I had a baby rattle in my chest.
Was sick for about ten days. Felt like I'd been hit by a truck for a week after. Tired, and zero energy for about 3/4 weeks afterward.

Hi Blazin,

Glad to count you among those that lived to tell the tale.  Sad to say, this ain’t over yet... :(
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on June 21, 2020, 06:49:10 AM
Yeah, sure glad you guys got through it. I would say you both had it for sure, (VZ and Blazin). So weird how it effects everyone a little different. I definitely prefer to be A-symptomatic. Still praying for everyone’s safety and protection. I’m really getting sick of this dam(n) virus.  (excuse the vulgarity)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on June 21, 2020, 08:17:32 AM
Well, I am officially over all the BS. I'm done with the whole thing, I don't care what anyone thinks about it either. I'm all back to living my life and I have been for a while.  I do not wear a mask or practice social distancing. My kids play with other kids, I see my family and we hug or kiss, my friends come over, we hang out, play darts, drink beer, BBQ and shake hands. This whole country is a disaster and out of control. Coronavirus is the least of our worries
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on June 22, 2020, 09:58:26 AM
I feel ya Vile, and I'm doin the same.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on July 05, 2020, 10:32:25 PM
Same here man! I hate those silly stupid lookin masks!! And another thing, I can’t believe how much trouble one stupid cop caused!! And I support all LE, i’m one of them. Man that Floyd thing sure got way off track! Buncha stupid ignorant little sissy punks making a big mess,,,living in their mothers basement, nothin better to do! Ok, i feel a little better now. Hey, we should start a thread where we just rant and rant and let off some steam. lol
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on July 08, 2020, 12:00:15 PM
Everything is a hot topic today and people act like idiots in real life and in social media. Don't even get me going.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 18, 2020, 01:36:29 PM
Notice the expiration date... :o

https://twitter.com/realAlexBaumann/status/1284240420302536705
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 18, 2020, 02:24:55 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1283593678347333632

How much of the 'spike' is real?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on July 18, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
Friends of mine in Florida signed up for testing and because the wait was too long they went home.  24 hours later they got a call saying they both had covid...  Who do you trust... No one except God...period.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 18, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
Wow what is the objective?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on July 19, 2020, 12:04:01 AM
Friends of mine in Florida signed up for testing and because the wait was too long they went home.  24 hours later they got a call saying they both had covid...  Who do you trust... No one except God...period.


Yeah...and a lot of these same bureaucratic folks are pushing to let everyone (and anyone, apparently) vote by mail.

A few weeks ago, my neighbor got the $1200 COVID stimulus checks for his Mom and Dad.  His Mom has been deceased for over five years.  His Dad died two years ago.


Mail-in voting.  What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on July 19, 2020, 10:01:23 AM
Wow what is the objective?

Control by using fear, which obviously is our country's biggest weakness. Mankind survives over 200,000 years with no face masks, and strengthening our natural immune systems. Now we are all sheeple being controlled by media and politicians with their own agendas. Doctor Fauci is a household name and his bank account just keeps growing. Big pharma, political control, and the blatant misleading headlines have this country upside down. I can count the number of times I've left my house in several months. Subtract the package store, gas station and auto parts store and I think I've gone to 5 places. It's amazing how in such a short period of time we allowed all of this to happen. As far as the mail in voting, I mean it's quite obvious this is very politically motivated.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 19, 2020, 11:13:38 AM
The HOA held a meeting to open the pool...

Obviously hacked up guidance, where they forgot to change 'break room' to something relative to a 'pool'...

Called for a volunteer 'pool monitor' to disinfect every surface between resident's visit, masks required when no in the water.

I left before it was over, because I was looking at the bird poop on the hand rail, thinking, 'all the bacteria, microbes, viruses, and pathogens died within minutes of it landing, due to the abundance of U/V that destroys  everything like it'.

I walked away thinking 'well, no pool this summer', guess we'll see if it opens on Nov. 5th.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on July 21, 2020, 12:34:05 PM
My opinions of this thing haven't changed since the beginning of the whole mess. I have had some interesting observations that have confirmed all my initial assessments.
As of today I still only know 3 people who have tested positive. One is a cop friend in New York City. He had very mild flu like symptoms and got over it quickly with no treatment. I work with the other two. One had very mild flu like symptoms and is almost over it with no treatment. The other is actually funny because he has been kinda paranoid and taking extra precautions while none of my coworkers have done anything different. He tested positive and has had no symptoms.
I haven't paid any attention to the death rate statistics because they are so skewed its a joke. The first 4 people to die and test positive in my city (back in March) were all already on hospice in nursing homes. For those not familiar with hospice, it means they were already deemed days or weeks away from death from a terminal condition  (not the virus). So basically they died from their terminal condition, happened to test positive (because we all WILL get it), and their cause of death was ruled to be the virus. I have completely ignored all death statistics since that point.
Last week a friend told me about a case where a relative drank herself to death. Cause of death was clearly alcohol poisoning, and the persons family was not surprised because it was known and accepted that her drinking problem would kill her. Official cause of death? The virus from China...

Today is no different from February or March. Just like the flu, this thing is potentially dangerous to people with compromised immune systems. Everyone else needs to move on with their lives. Best thing you can do is live and eat a healthy lifestyle. There are only two groups of people: those who have it and those who are going to have it soon. Lay off the cheeseburgers and get off the couch. Do something good for your body and be as healthy as possible so you can fight off this one and the next one. I already know I'll die of a heart attack before some flu from another country gets to me. Unless I die in a car crash first, which is even more likely.
Now if this thing was like the Spanish flu I would be approaching it very different. THAT was a serious pandemic. Pretty interesting read, but if you are the scared paranoid type maybe save that read for some other year.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 21, 2020, 08:37:28 PM
Looks like they're combining 'probable cases' with 'confirmed'. Spike?

Also, they held back reporting deaths from May and June, only to release them last week.

I'll post links later...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 21, 2020, 10:31:17 PM
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/07/16/faking-stats-proven-all-across-america-how-officials-combining-probable-cases-of-covid-19-with-confirmed-cases-a-total-scam/?utm_source=whatfinger


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 28, 2020, 12:30:12 PM
Did anyone see even part of that presser in DC yesterday?

Masters of the universe, Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc took down links, video, and restricted users from their accounts because of re-tweets.

What is really going on????
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on July 28, 2020, 12:38:25 PM
Did anyone see even part of that presser in DC yesterday?

Masters of the universe, Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc took down links, video, and restricted users from their accounts because of re-tweets.

What is really going on????

They (the left) doesn't want the real truth to get out.  Communism is here and has been creeping in and warned about since the early 60's at least...  Deep state has it's hold.  November is going to interesting to say the least.
I posted this on my Facebook wall.  I don't know if anyone off of Facebook can see it but here is the link.   It is 11 minutes 14 seconds. Give it a listen. 
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.turner.737/videos/10217406087803488/
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on July 28, 2020, 12:44:43 PM
https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/07/27/group-of-americas-frontline-doctors-hold-press-conference-at-capitol-hill-about-covid-19-calling-out-massive-disinformation-campaign/?fbclid=IwAR0daBGjwuRTIU2vpVU_BYEWiGzFGGrb6TqDbK70wdu1vUdDNboyIEdvR64
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on July 30, 2020, 07:27:10 PM
around me they (democrat governor) want mail in voting due to the high risk of the virus. but the state fair is still going on with no restrictions, but people are so scared of the virus its a ghost town at the fair grounds.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Rapid Roy on August 11, 2020, 06:23:47 PM
The single biggest threat to man's continued dominance on the planet is the virus.

Joshua Lederberg Ph.D
Nobel laureate
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on August 12, 2020, 03:24:54 PM
Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. ... There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus.
Matrix
Agent Smith Mar 31, 1999
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on August 25, 2020, 03:27:20 PM
Friends of mine in Florida signed up for testing and because the wait was too long they went home.  24 hours later they got a call saying they both had covid...  Who do you trust... No one except God...period.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on August 25, 2020, 03:28:47 PM
Wow what is the objective?

Control by using fear, which obviously is our country's biggest weakness. Mankind survives over 200,000 years with no face masks, and strengthening our natural immune systems. Now we are all sheeple being controlled by media and politicians with their own agendas. Doctor Fauci is a household name and his bank account just keeps growing. Big pharma, political control, and the blatant misleading headlines have this country upside down. I can count the number of times I've left my house in several months. Subtract the package store, gas station and auto parts store and I think I've gone to 5 places. It's amazing how in such a short period of time we allowed all of this to happen. As far as the mail in voting, I mean it's quite obvious this is very politically motivated.
Also, agreed.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on August 25, 2020, 03:35:41 PM
I just can’t believe this stupid virus is still around. These silly masks are getting old. Enough already! They should just make a call, no more masks. I can’t believe people actually drive around with a mask on, man do they look stupid! Haha...

MAGA!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on August 25, 2020, 04:28:53 PM
Well I have to agree. Masks will do nothing to stop a virus. It's like wearing dirty underwear on your face. Masks are for temporary use during specific activities. Living is not an activity! I took a few days off and went to the beach. The people on the beach wearing a mask.... God help us all
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on August 25, 2020, 08:49:13 PM
Well, My wife tested positive and I had similar symptoms but not bad, no test.  This is my second go around, had it back in January for a couple of weeks.  This time a couple of days but I followed the self quarantined guidelines and we have both bounced back. In our case, no big deal
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on August 30, 2020, 08:30:40 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/shock-report-week-cdc-quietly-updated-covid-19-numbers-9210-americans-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/ “Surprise surprise surprise“ Gomer Pyle 1965


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on September 11, 2020, 03:08:58 AM
One of my brothers recently got it and tested positive, along with his wife and five kids. They all had mild flu like symptoms but did not need medical treatment other than taking some ibuprofen. They are all almost over it with no concerns, no panic, no trying to force everyone else in the city to pander to their fear and crazy communist ideas. Just got over it like the flu every year.
Our communist city has been requiring masks for some time now. My brother and family being law abiding people have been wearing them. Doesn't seem to have made one **** bit of difference or prevention, just more government intrusion and control.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 18, 2020, 07:24:32 AM
Some of the school districts around me are investing BIG, like millions, in online learning systems.   So, even after the crisis is over (if it ever ends.....)  kids might not being going to school anymore and just learning online at home, which, may be the better way anyways.

And just go to the school for tests?

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on September 18, 2020, 08:12:34 PM
One of my brothers recently got it and tested positive, along with his wife and five kids. They all had mild flu like symptoms but did not need medical treatment other than taking some ibuprofen. They are all almost over it with no concerns, no panic, no trying to force everyone else in the city to pander to their fear and crazy communist ideas. Just got over it like the flu every year.
Our communist city has been requiring masks for some time now. My brother and family being law abiding people have been wearing them. Doesn't seem to have made one **** bit of difference or prevention, just more government intrusion and control.
I totally agree!!


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on September 18, 2020, 10:40:46 PM
In person classes are better learning environments. Many children would be left behind otherwise.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 19, 2020, 10:27:20 AM
In person classes are better learning environments. Many children would be left behind otherwise.

i'm not entirely convinced;   With video modules, the person(s) making it can re-do until it's just right.   A person doing a lecture may leave stuff out and not explain certain concepts clearly.   And, let's face it:  Most people aren't that good at lecturing.

With video modules, you can re-watch as many times as necessary.   The hours are more flexible.  No travel time.

School facilities would be more of a testing facility.    i suppose there could still be in-person classes for like band, sports etc.   So maybe kids would still go, but for much less hours?


i've learned just as much, if not more, from watching youtube videos than from any classroom.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on September 19, 2020, 12:11:19 PM
That's because lecturing is not teaching and the old model of sit down, shut up, take notes, and pass this test or you're a failure, is out. If you are over 25 years old, you probably experienced this in school and college classes are mostly this model as well, unfortunately. Blended Learning (Hybrid) is the best method. It encompasses the use of technology, where you can record lessons and chunk down content using visual and auditory methods to aid in reading, which is great for those with learning disabilities. BTW most people have learning disabilities. Then you have the "on-ground" portion of the learning where the students actually "do" which is necessary for the kinesthetic learners and for honing skills. Making school like a prison sentence, where they are doing time, is an antiquated and unnecessary part of school. If student A can complete their work in one hour why do they need to sit there while student B struggles for 3 hours? The teacher can turn their attention to those who need it and everyone can get what they need to learn. Technical schools would do even better if students mainly came to school just for shop time and were able to complete their academic studies at their pace remotely. Obviously some students need special education services and require one on one and that will never change but we should not be dumping everyone into the same bucket simply because of their age and then expecting everyone to perform the same while being taught one way. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 19, 2020, 03:17:36 PM
Here is a shining example of what i'm talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJy9QxuyWA

Not only was i able to get my mower running again, but perhaps even more importantly, listen to what is said during the final 40 seconds of the video.   It changed my life.  ;D


But yeah, i agree that hybrid learning might be the best way.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on September 19, 2020, 06:53:13 PM
So tenth grade was great, -B A grades, 11th was a like sitting in a babysitting session.

Cali had at the time a proficiency exam, legally equivalent to Diploma. Took the test, then hung out for the balance of 11th and part of 12th in AUTO SHOP... need I say more?

The current models are 200+ years old
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on December 20, 2020, 10:15:49 PM
I was in school in the 80’s, the old fashioned system. Sure could have used VZ’s plan back then, very applicable. I totally agree, the academic system needs a full upgrade. The old classroom courses like math, science, english, soc. studies, etc. should be remote for all that can do it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: fitz on December 21, 2020, 04:22:52 AM
My only question about students taking classes online is how would the boys get to look at cute girls?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on December 21, 2020, 05:30:30 AM
Let alone pinch them...


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on December 21, 2020, 04:07:25 PM
They snapchat
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on December 21, 2020, 04:38:53 PM
Still no pinching
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on December 21, 2020, 04:42:11 PM
Which is probably considered assault these days... ::)

I was really impressed with a young woman customer service that I wanted to tip her 5buck, she objected and said she couldn't take it.

I stuffed it under something on her desk and asked "What happened to America?"

Dead blank stare from her and her coworker...  :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on April 13, 2021, 05:10:49 PM
UPDATES:

1) Washing masks in the washing machine, i don't think works.   And i think we're STILL going to be wearing masks for a while.

i leave them out in the sun now, and will report back later.


2) i got my "second serving,"  and immediately felt sick the day after.  i thought that i had got  the virus. It was pretty bad.  i now hear this is a side effect of the vaccine?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 13, 2021, 06:19:34 PM
I will not get the "vaccine". My colleague and I are the outliers at work and have both vowed not to take it. Everyone has made comments and I don't care. I will decide if and when I ever take a vaccine. Someone we know just got their second shot and ended up with heart failure, pneumonia, yet just had a physical a month ago and was fine with  clean bill of health. My mother got both and has severe back pain along with other odd symptoms. I have no faith in big pharma or our government.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on April 13, 2021, 06:25:05 PM
Just today they announced a "pause" in using the J&J vax.

Little complication called 'blood clotting', one woman dead, one critical.

Symptoms: Severe headache, Intestinal pain, Leg pain, and one other I can't remember.

Yeah, NO!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on April 13, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
Everyone has a right to decide for themselves and no one has the right to criticize others for what they feel is right for them. I got to first shot of Pfizer and the second is scheduled for 4-19-21. I decided to take it because I have many medical issues that put me at high risk. Hope I did not make the wrong choice and I had second thoughts and my wife does not want to take it. She may decide later, said she will wait to see if I die from it.

There is no way I would ever take the J&J vaccine.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 14, 2021, 09:27:15 AM
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She may decide later, said she will wait to see if I die from it.


LMAO
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on April 14, 2021, 03:05:20 PM
The very next day after the second serving, i felt BAD---definitely flu-like symptoms, likely had a fever.  i was like, NO WAY i caught it.  Not to mention my arm HURT much more than the first serving....

i'm ok now....knock on wood.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on April 14, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
My arm hurts too....not because of the shot, but because I punched myself this morning.  It's okay, I've had it coming for quite some time now....
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on April 15, 2021, 12:29:09 PM
No comment...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on April 27, 2021, 10:07:46 AM
I believe like 8 woman had the blood clots, out of about 8 million people that had the J/J. That might as well be zero.

I had COVID and fully recovered quickly. If a COVID person sneezed in my face and it got in my body again, the symptoms would be so light I would most likely not even know it. And this natural immunity will NEVER go away.

Also, a lot of folks (millions) are only taking the one shot (of the two), the one shot still gives them enough protection to avoid sickness, hospitalization and death. The second one seems to be the tough one.

The shots don’t prevent the virus, they keep you out of the hospital and from dying, and that’s pretty good. So far, I am NOT getting the shot. COVID is fading fast, amen..
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on April 27, 2021, 06:00:14 PM
Watched a spot with Bill Maher  >:( but he had a very interesting stat:

78% of people who died were overweight, or obese!

I know a virologist, asked him if I had antibodies, as in if I had the virus but was asymptomatic, would I need the vaccine?

He said first, if I had the vaccine I would have antibodies. (okay read between the lines here)

I rephrased the question; If I had the virus, and recovered, would I need the vaccine since I now have antibodies?

He said if I caught one of the 'variants' I would get sick again.

Think about that, boys and girls, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! What good is the vaccine for C-19 if the variants are going to get you?

I smell a steaming pile of horse manure!!!


Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 28, 2021, 06:42:49 PM
I am so over this whole load of crap. Not one person got the flu last year, they all had COVID-19.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on April 28, 2021, 07:31:14 PM
Fauci is the main person feeding the crap and is doing the democrats bidding to enable them to manipulate citizens for money and power. He said, children outside needs to wear face mask. Your right about the flu. Hospitals don't get the extra bonus bucks for flu victims and others, just for COVID-19 deaths.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on April 29, 2021, 09:50:50 AM
I am so over this whole load of crap. Not one person got the flu last year, they all had COVID-19.
Yeah how about that, what ever happened to the plain old “flu?”  Amazing how the left just can’t let it go. And Biden said that if we stay in our homes and wear two masks, then maybe .....just maybe we can gather with a couple friends or neighbors on July 4th. Really? So after 15 months of this crap we can have a hot dog with our neighbor?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 29, 2021, 04:46:31 PM
No, because hot dogs lead to higher emissions, therefore, you cannot have the hot dog. You can however, eat government cheese and a plant based burger on your solar powered electric grill while listening to government radio on your prius, as long as you are 6 feet away from another human being of course.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on April 29, 2021, 07:27:52 PM
They also want us all to buy electric vehicles and that means they do not want us to drive our gas guzzler square body trucks or other vintage vehicles, trucks, SUV, and etc.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on April 29, 2021, 09:23:37 PM
How high will gas prices rise as a result? Europe is a good example... :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on April 29, 2021, 10:55:37 PM
How high will gas prices rise as a result? Europe is a good example... :o
They have gone up a lot around me. Here are two pictures taken exactly 1 year apart (pic 2 was taken today). $1 vs $2.73 per gallon. I figure we should see about $4 a gallon again by the time the communist regime is getting ready to steal the next election.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 30, 2021, 02:52:37 PM
Pelosi buys EV stocks right before executive order boy buys over a 1/2 million EV's. One day you will only have your truck to look at because of these rats.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 02, 2021, 10:16:32 PM
I ain’t drivin no electric Prius man!!! Just give me my guns, burgers and my squarebody, and we’re good.

The real test is in 2022/2024. If it doesn’t all change, we could be doomed.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on May 02, 2021, 10:30:32 PM
If 2022/2024 does not go well, VZ might be right about our squares being around to only look at.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 03, 2021, 06:18:51 AM
You just might have to one day when these fools keep wrecking our lives.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/engine-swap-company-makes-electric-motor-look-like-a-small-block-chevy/
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on May 03, 2021, 02:47:35 PM
Interesting article! I hope it does not go there anytime soon. If we can get rid of Biden and turn it all around on these lunatics we might be able to keep our truck a bit longer. The Biden administration is doing everything possible to destroy our nation and economy. Killing the oil and fuel industry (to include the pipeline) is making everything much more expensive and our country cannot survive the number of job losses.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 03, 2021, 04:28:16 PM
You'll be lucky if you can still legally wash your truck the way things are headed. Big Government is here.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 03, 2021, 07:34:35 PM
You just might have to one day when these fools keep wrecking our lives.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/engine-swap-company-makes-electric-motor-look-like-a-small-block-chevy/
That’s a scary article, “fake engine block.” ???  Yeah, fake horse power too. We’re headed for Mad Max, “the last of the     V8’s”


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 08, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
You'll be lucky if you can still legally wash your truck the way things are headed. Big Government is here.

i try to provide the link, but Sacramento county you're already not allowed to do any major modifications or repair period.    Only oil changes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 08, 2021, 07:11:32 PM
I'd be an outlaw there  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on May 08, 2021, 08:09:22 PM
Back on topic  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 15, 2021, 11:08:21 AM
I'd be an outlaw there  8)

Ok, here is the link:
https://wisconsinhotrodradio.com/

Episode 354.   You can't do anything but oil changes, air filter changes (maybe spark plug changes but i'm not actually sure!) and tire changes.   AND your garage door has to be closed when doing these things.   And if they catch you doing more, BIG FINE.

This is not fiction.   This is Sacramento county!

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 15, 2021, 11:16:24 AM
Anyways, back to corona:

i don't recognize myself in the mirror sometimes!    Also the skin below eye level is much lighter!

i'm going to put it on the table:   Despite all that, i'm still pro-mask and will continue wearing it despite any current CDC recommendations.

a) We're not exactly finished yet, and in the interest of being thorough i'd like to finish and be safe until the end.

b) How do we know who is vaccinated or not?

c) i'm so used to it anyways after wearing it for year.   What's a few more weeks, months?   i'd rather be safe;   Are we absolutely 100% sure you can't get/transmit the disease even after vaccination?   This is a new, unprecedented thing.

i respect (although do not agree with) with anyone's wishes NOT to wear a mask.  i would hope that anyone would respect MY decision to continue to wear one.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on May 15, 2021, 02:38:12 PM
Please know I respect our opinion as well and you should be able to do as you wish, period!

I do have a couple questions.
 1) Do you think the vaccine is effective, as the CDC and most state? My Answer: if you think the vaccine is safe - it does not matter if anyone else takes it. People that have taken the vaccine is not suppose to be able to spread COVID.
 2) Do you really believe the masks people have been wearing will prevent COVID infections? My Answer: The only reason why we wear these mask is for power over us. Only N95 mask are possibly effective and we have no been able to buy them do to government restrictions.
 3) Did you hear that indoors it does not matter how far apart you are for safety and outdoors is safe? My Answer: CDC came out and said, the virus will spreading distances indoors 20-30 feet or more.

I have taken the vaccination due to my high risk situation. My wife elected not to take the vaccine, even though she is also at high risk. That is her choice, as it is with everyone else in the country. America is about Freedom of Choice! The country should be 100% open and there are those that wants to control us and take away our freedom for power hungry ambitions.

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 16, 2021, 07:41:29 AM
My take at this point:

If you wish to be vaccinated and think it protects you, go for it but what does it matter if anyone else is if you are truly vaccinated? If you are concerned then you must not have faith in the vaccine you put in your body.

If you feel safer wearing a mask, by all means, please do. I will continue to not wear a mask and I will not feel bad about it.

For the record, I have been in the inner city throughout this entire event exposed to hundreds of people every week. No one social distanced, no one wore a mask correctly or 100% of the time. It was more of a chin strap and petri dish. My girls have been in school all school year in person. So do I feel like my own immune system needs this cocktail to protect me? No way! What you only hear about is what the media portrays. Did you hear about the 16 year old girl in CT who just got her vaccine and died here in CT? Of course you didn't because they aren't allowing the other side of the story to be told.

There are a few groups you can seek out if you are so interested that post their side effects after getting the vaccine. It's quite interesting to hear what people are actually saying vs what's being spoon fed to you through the media channels. Hundreds of thousands of posts and Facebook deletes the groups, bans people to silence them... Now why would they want to silence people who simply post what's actually happening to them in regards to being vaccinated?

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on May 16, 2021, 05:19:23 PM
Very well said above, Vile.

There are a lot of people speaking out with concerns about what has been going on, but the communist socialist mob taking over the country have literally been silencing them. Ask yourself why anyone would actively attempt to silence disagreement or differing views? Here is a good video from March 31st that had to be posted on Rumble because YouTube would delete it.

https://rumble.com/vf8hov-the-covid-19-so-called-vaccine-is-really-a-dangerous-experimental-gene-ther.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 16, 2021, 08:22:19 PM
Please know I respect our opinion as well and you should be able to do as you wish, period!

I do have a couple questions.
 1) Do you think the vaccine is effective, as the CDC and most state? My Answer: if you think the vaccine is safe - it does not matter if anyone else takes it. People that have taken the vaccine is not suppose to be able to spread COVID.
 2) Do you really believe the masks people have been wearing will prevent COVID infections? My Answer: The only reason why we wear these mask is for power over us. Only N95 mask are possibly effective and we have no been able to buy them do to government restrictions.
 3) Did you hear that indoors it does not matter how far apart you are for safety and outdoors is safe? My Answer: CDC came out and said, the virus will spreading distances indoors 20-30 feet or more.

I have taken the vaccination due to my high risk situation. My wife elected not to take the vaccine, even though she is also at high risk. That is her choice, as it is with everyone else in the country. America is about Freedom of Choice! The country should be 100% open and there are those that wants to control us and take away our freedom for power hungry ambitions.

1) Probably, i guess, not 100% sure?   i think it STILL is possible to  catch it even after vaccinated, although extremely rare?.  i think Bill Maher (talk show host) got it even after being vaccinated.   This vaccine was rushed into production, and you know what happens when stuff gets rushed....

2) Probably not, but possibly it at least helps?    Why do doctors wear masks during operations?

So for those reasons i like to be  thorough and safe.  It's not over yet.   It sort of like that little clip that goes on the needle and float arm in a quadrajet carb.  Is it really necessary?   Probably not, but i put it on anyways.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 17, 2021, 02:40:39 PM
Wearing a mask during an activity like that makes sense. A surgeon wearing a mask when doing surgery, a painter wearing a respirator when painting, etc. we call this PPE. Simply existing, breathing does not fall into the category.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on May 17, 2021, 06:15:10 PM
Speaking of Mahr, he pointed out that 78% of Covid deaths occurred in people who were over weight and obese. Put down the doughnut!!! :o 
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 22, 2021, 12:48:16 PM
Vega and all-aluminum vega engine rushed into production.......
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on May 22, 2021, 07:34:46 PM
Those Vega engines were not quality. I owned a Vega. I bought it used and running with the OEM engine to install a 350, but did not complete the project prior to selling.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on May 22, 2021, 10:14:08 PM
Was it better than a PINTO? LOL ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: carmen77 on May 26, 2021, 09:49:36 PM
Was it better than a PINTO? LOL ::)
Hey what’s wrong with Pintos?? I have one. Lol

Ok technically I inherited it and immediately gave it away but it’s still in my possession so technically still mine.

She’s kinda cute though.


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on May 30, 2021, 10:35:16 AM
My point was, when something is rushed into production, especially when it's a complicated thing----such as an all-aluminum 4 cylinder or a virus vaccine, it may not turn out good.


We ARE NOT done with this.   We ARE NOT "out of the woods."   This is not something to be taken lightly.   Sure, for 90% of us who have not gotten it, and  probably will not, it doesn't seem like a big thing.   It's easy to feel like this when it doesn't affect you.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on May 30, 2021, 06:46:15 PM
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It's easy to feel like this when it doesn't affect you.

Which differs from what exactly in life? When you have a child that has autism? Or when you are crippled? Or you have cancer? Or you are suffering from the many known things that people tend to ignore every day because it doesn't happen to them?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on May 30, 2021, 10:33:23 PM
Here's where my radar is going off the charts:

Have a friend, board certified heavy hitting virologist at Scripps in San Diego.

I asked him if I had the virus and was asymptomatic, and as a result, developed ANTIBODIES, would I need the vaccine?

His answer: "Yes, you could contract one of the VARIANTS and get sick..." :o

So what good is the vaccine, if variant B-Z will get you anyway?

They are doing a LOTTO in Kalifornia! 116 million to be distributed to those vaccinated and those who will be!!!

OLD ADAGE: When things don't make sense and people act stupid, FOLLOW THE MONEY

Speaking of which, it is coming out through reputable channels that Saint Fauchi (sic) funded through NIH "gain of function" research at the Wuhan Lab. (Something Obama banned due to the extreme risk) Please look it up, it's out there.

He is quoted as saying in 2012 that a "pandemic is worth the risk" to gain a deeper understanding of viral behavior. Nice...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on June 01, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
I’ll always be optimistic on these things. COVID is nearly gone. I say we ARE out of the woods. Therapeutics are making great progress, most of the country has been vaccinated, and the rest has had it, like me. I believe I am immune for life. Massachusetts opened up on May 29th, I will not wear a mask again. (Not that I did much before anyway) If this virus pandemic crap happens again, I will move to a remote area in a real red conservative state like South Dakota or Wyoming. A place where there are more trout than people.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on June 02, 2021, 01:43:04 AM
LOL! More trout that have more brains than some two legged versions


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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on June 02, 2021, 03:27:23 PM
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: peterr991 on June 17, 2021, 08:32:20 AM
are you for the vaccine or against?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on June 17, 2021, 09:02:33 AM
Does not matter is someone is for or against! It is a personal choice.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on June 17, 2021, 12:10:48 PM
are you for the vaccine or against?

What vaccine?  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on July 01, 2021, 04:25:17 PM
are you for the vaccine or against?

What vaccine?  ;D
Exactly!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on July 01, 2021, 04:29:03 PM
I can’t believe people are still wearing masks, even during a nasty heatwave we just had, while walking all alone outdoors and the worst of all…..while driving alone in their car with the windows up. Gotta be woke Biden supporters!!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 01, 2021, 05:50:58 PM
Per CDC: No record of outdoor transmission

Know why? Because God designed U/V rays that blow up viruses. Oh, and Wind that blows it away.

But you don't believe in God? Better keep that face diaper snugly fit, or make it TWO...can't take any chances  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on July 01, 2021, 07:11:35 PM
Maybe they got a bad nose job like Michael Jackson or maybe they're just ugly and feel pretty in the face diaper.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 01, 2021, 10:12:20 PM
LoL you guys are great!


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Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on July 06, 2021, 10:36:20 PM
Went to a massive family picnic over the 4th holiday, not one mask. I even wore my official MAGA hat and everyone loved it and wanted to buy it off me. Good times!

 My cousins know that we homeschool and are interested in doing it. They said the school system was so bad they can’t send their kids their anymore. I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. Unbelievable!!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on July 07, 2021, 05:52:29 AM
They need to remove these mask mandates, I will not patronize ANYWHERE, that requires masks still. If you want to wear a mask, fine but enough already. The "vaccine" will protect you right? PS, my aunt was double vaccinated and is in the hospital as we speak -COVID.

School is a joke with this whole charade, they are the ones who are losing. Kids not communicating was already a big problem, now they just hide behind a mask and the other kids use them as a chin strap, a total dog and pony show. I had a kid who came to school only one time at the end of the year and I didn't even recognize him. He must have gained 70 lbs while his mom kept him home from school. Lady, you are worried about CV19 but not the fact that your kid is now obese and probably diabetic since you've grounded him...? Yep he's safer now.

Our annual 4th of July party was great, not one mask in sight.



Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on July 07, 2021, 01:56:04 PM
I agree and it is ridiculous to see people wearing mask that have proven to be ineffective. What is even worse, people wearing mask that are pulled down to expose the nose. Then the illegitimate Biden Administration is saying were are going door to door to enforce the vaccination. Even worse, they want all kids vaccinated before they can be allowed to attend school. The Children's Miracle Network has said, for a child to be a participant in their program, they have to be vaccinated for COVID. These are dying children trying to get their last wish.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on July 07, 2021, 06:39:27 PM
The Children's Miracle Network has said, for a child to be a participant in their program, they have to be vaccinated for COVID. These are dying children trying to get their last wish.

PATHETIC!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on July 07, 2021, 10:45:21 PM
Yeah I had to go to Torrington and VZ you know how that goes through Avon, I saw signs everywhere on the way that read “Unmask our kids”. Also, you know that lovely little quaint town called Hartford, I mean where Rt. 44 runs through, Albany Ave., where the whole community is fully dependent on the govt. you guessed it….everyone fully masked walking around outdoors , 90 degrees out. Why don’t we see that on the Tolland green, or even downtown Stafford or Enfield? Seems our govt. wants the whole country like Albany Ave. in Hartford,,,completely dependent on big govt.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on July 08, 2021, 05:34:09 AM
Stimulus checks, free food, free vaccines... Big Gov't has paved the way
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 16, 2021, 08:09:15 PM
At the risk of getting THIS thread shut down, like the other one..............


Do you run an air filter on your engine?

Why?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on August 17, 2021, 04:52:12 PM
Boosters for all show the vax's don't last...forever boosted
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Captkaos on August 17, 2021, 05:41:17 PM
Like what other one @Stewart

If you are talking about the one imbedded in a car show thread it wasn't relative.  IF this one gets reported and violates standards it will be reviewed...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on August 18, 2021, 10:24:19 AM
Great video pretty much sums up everything.

https://rumble.com/vl2uxz-icu-nurse-youre-being-lied-to-about-covid..html
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 20, 2021, 08:18:53 PM
So, do we run air filters on our engines?   And, if so, why?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on August 21, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
Do you run cilia in your lungs? If so why?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 22, 2021, 12:49:04 PM
So, the question STILL remains unanswered:

Do you run an air filter on your engine?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on August 22, 2021, 01:16:10 PM
Yes, do you?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on August 22, 2021, 03:12:35 PM
air filters compare to your nose hairs. they don't stop everything just the big dust particles.

Air filters protect your engine from intaking dust, its already been proven mask dont do this as they dont create a perfect seal around your mouth.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on August 23, 2021, 06:06:36 PM
If you haven't seen the video from Mr. Diesel, it will open your eyes!

Check out the CDC and John Hopkins websites, she is spot on... :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on August 24, 2021, 02:49:36 PM
So, the question STILL remains unanswered:

Do you run an air filter on your engine?

Interesting question, and fairly simple answer. I personally run an air filter on all my engines. However, if the engine complained about it or it restricted the intake I would probably reassess the situation. And most importantly, if the government started mandating my old Chevy trucks be driven everywhere with an air filter I would object. Not the government business whether I use an air filter or not. My engine, my air filter.  Can you imagine not being allowed to park on the street or a parking lot until someone popped your hood and inspected for filter? That would be ridiculous....
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on August 24, 2021, 03:10:41 PM
I'll add that the filter is a ONE WAY device...face diapers are not and catch and hold all kinds of gunk.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on August 24, 2021, 07:15:45 PM
It's disgusting. These people wear the same face diaper EVERY DAY. Do you change your underwear? Why?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on August 24, 2021, 11:01:53 PM
Queue the Batman Music--

BAPP! ZOING! KAPOWWW!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on August 26, 2021, 05:26:54 PM
At work they gave us one cloth mask and said you can't wear it everyday and to let it dry out for a day??? We were able to convince some brass to give a couple out so we could do as they suggested. Then they started giving us the surgical mask that pull on your ears, so I designed and 3d printed some ear savers that would snap on the back of your head like a bra and make the mask that go around your ears essentially they style that goes around your head. Then work stopped giving us mask because it was costing too much. Worst part is we had to insure inmates properly wore their mask when ever out of their room except to eat lol. It was a joke and you could feel the tension building Everytime we told an inmate to put their mask on right. We had a couple riots just because the inmates were not as free as they were and we're being told what to do
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on February 03, 2022, 06:18:36 PM
This thread has been quiet for a while, I can't believe this mask thing is still going on. I really feel bad for the school kids, all day everyday, having to wear that silly filthy mask. I wear one every six months while in the dentist office waiting room, and that's it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on February 04, 2022, 10:04:18 AM
It's an atrocity! The teacher's union is saying they want to keep strict mandates! Who are they speaking for? I don't know any teachers including myself who want masks or mandates. Parents and students think it's a joke too. It's no different than the seasonal flu but we keep playing this stupid game. I'm so over it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on February 06, 2022, 09:54:38 PM
It's an atrocity! The teacher's union is saying they want to keep strict mandates! Who are they speaking for? I don't know any teachers including myself who want masks or mandates. Parents and students think it's a joke too. It's no different than the seasonal flu but we keep playing this stupid game. I'm so over it.

Once again, I totally agree. Covid is so old and boring now. Everyone is so done with it. Even many left wing parents are speaking out in rage about the masks. Right, parents are really getting pissed about masks. Why does Joe Biden wear one on a beach alone with only his wife? I mean why? why?!!!!  Why do they wear them walking outside on a sidewalk or in their car alone? Why are people so freaking stupid in the head!!!!!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on February 07, 2022, 07:41:34 AM
Masks have been proven to be completely ineffective. Everyone at work vaxed or not still got covid despite the mask mandates. Clearly it didn't help, almost 2 years of face diapers and it stopped nothing. I got covid, no mask was stopping it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on February 07, 2022, 08:10:58 AM
Got hit with covid early December, and it sucked doubly as I started vacation just then, and I still can't smell anything, but I still won't wear a mask after it was over.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on February 07, 2022, 04:03:53 PM
They finally admitted it- It's not a vaccine, it's Gene Therapy.

Check out the DOD report of increases in many negative symptoms among their personnel.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on February 08, 2022, 07:37:52 AM
I'm starting to see a lot of people who looked down their nose at everyone who didn't take it change their tune. It didn't seem to help anyone at my work because pretty much everyone still got it regardless of "vax" status and there's no proof of it lessening symptoms as the average person was sick about 3 weeks regardless. Seems to mimic the performance of the flu shot. Some get sick, some don't, some have bad reactions, and even die from it, some doctors support it and push it, some don't. I think this will continue to be a great debate for many years to come. The VAERS reports are never talked about by mainstream media and people ignore it for some odd reason. https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on February 08, 2022, 04:40:37 PM
You have to be very brave to watch this. I thought it was BS but when he said one speaker was Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA gene therapy, I thought otherwise. It will blow your mind... :(

https://sarahwestall.com/important-video-dr-reiner-fuellmichs-opening-statements-grand-jury-the-court-of-public-opinion/

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on February 08, 2022, 10:10:35 PM
They finally admitted it- It's not a vaccine, it's Gene Therapy.

Check out the DOD report of increases in many negative symptoms among their personnel.

Very interesting report. Seems to show what doctors have been saying all along; that this has all been a very dangerous experiment and maybe pumping your body full of risky chemicals is actually a bad idea. I'm interested to hear more about these "whistleblowers" and the DMED database in the next few months. Here is a link
https://sarahwestall.com/dmed-data-reveals-incredibly-disturbing-spikes-in-vaccine-injuries-across-the-board/

Adding to that, TODAY I spoke with a friend in the military. He is about 30 years old and extremely healthy and fit. Per the military mandate he received his "Vaccine" shots. Within hours of the second shot he experienced racing heartbeat and hypertension. Went to a cardiologist and was diagnosed with myocarditis that lasted for weeks. This case was NOT entered into VAERs or DMED. There are MANY more like this. These mandates are nothing less than crimes against humanity.



Also, if you missed the Joe Rogan interview with Dr Robert Malone you need to drop everything and listen now.
https://rumble.com/vrury3-dr.-robert-malone-full-length-interview-revealing-the-truth-about-covid-19-.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on March 17, 2022, 02:42:41 PM
If I lived closer to Houston I would attend this. Some very influential and impressively credentialed doctors in attendance.
Posting it in case anyone here wants to attend.

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 17, 2022, 06:23:15 PM
Funny how nobody cares about the deadly virus anymore  ::)

My mother has not felt good since she got vaccinated. She finally spoke up and her doctor said it is probably from the "treatments". My sister forced her to do it and just like in society, the great divide begins. So many people at my work are going through what I went through when I got the flu shot in 2012 and got wicked sick. I was sick every 2-3 months for almost 4 years after that. I'm glad I never took it and I don't remember if I said it but we all had it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on May 30, 2022, 10:03:14 PM
I work in the fed gubmint.  They dont care about it anymore. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: haroldwca on May 31, 2022, 09:10:35 PM
Hey Vile, did I understand you to say you were/are a teacher?  So am I - high school math for 32 years.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on June 01, 2022, 05:51:51 PM
20 years! Yes it's a roller coaster ride, isn't it?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on June 01, 2022, 07:58:04 PM
We were invited to a pot luck event at a local park.

Last sentence: "For those who are not vaccinated, please bring a negative test result for that day".

I would like to reply, "For those vaccinated, please bring a negative test result for that day, insuring you don't infect me"  ;D

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: haroldwca on June 01, 2022, 10:03:56 PM
Yes, Vile, it's definitely been an interesting year.  I'm not in a public school, but we still have been through it with quarantines, contact tracing, and online instruction.  Fortunately, we were able to resume a mostly normal year after the holidays.  And as of last Friday, we made it !
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on July 14, 2022, 07:38:41 PM
Looks who's still pushing it?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: mikiesride on August 09, 2022, 11:40:51 AM
It's an atrocity! The teacher's union is saying they want to keep strict mandates! Who are they speaking for? I don't know any teachers including myself who want masks or mandates. Parents and students think it's a joke too. It's no different than the seasonal flu but we keep playing this stupid game. I'm so over it.

YOU are the reason most "rational" people Still ware masks..... I have two Daughters that are a Registered Nurse 23yrs and a Occupational Therapist 19 yrs that "DIDN'T" go into there fields to watch Patients DIE or make there Death more "Comfortable". When and if you Die I'll bet your last words are "I should have wore my mask",  remembering your last comments were "it's a joke" and were still playing stupid games. You people I wont shed a tier when they put you SIX feet in the ground. * * * * * My life is "Prolonged by wearing a mask". Its sad you don't think like me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bd on August 09, 2022, 01:53:55 PM
No disrespect intended, but... it's sad you think like you ...using your words, of course. 

Every individual has a right to his/her viewpoint.  No one has all of the data, objectively, to act fully rational.  Media has agendas of social engineering and national disruption.  They will stop at nothing to achieve their purposes and are gaining ground.  If only they were intelligent enough to understand the ground they are gaining.  Believe what you will.  Think what you will.  Everyone dies in the end.  Until then, do you choose to live free or enslaved? 

Everyone thinking the same is enslavement.

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mike81K10 on August 09, 2022, 03:47:20 PM
Well said bd! It is obvious where mikiesride is coming from. One side believes everyone should be free to choose and the other believes everyone better believe as they do and they say believe the science when they blatantly disregard the very science that states masks are ineffective with the virus. Then they also want to mandate everyone get the jab that is ineffective and is having serious side effects for many. I won't go on because everyone should have the freedom to think for themselves without having someone ridicule them.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on August 09, 2022, 04:20:40 PM
Just sayin...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on August 09, 2022, 04:49:58 PM
Who would have ever known that brainwashing was so easy?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: mikiesride on August 09, 2022, 08:07:13 PM
Just sayin...

I like your picture Illustration all but the last one Presumably for our current Corona Virus with one of the mask people wear today BUT this Corona Virus ISN'T the worlds "Deadliest Virus" in History - - - - - - that was called the Black Plague or the Bubonic Plague of the 1300 hundreds Killing upwards of 200 Million. Keep your miss information to your self. . . Just stating the Facts
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Captkaos on August 10, 2022, 03:13:46 PM
Keep it Civil and do not post topic/information to entice conflict, state the information and move on.
If you disagree with this topic or the direction.  Ignore it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on August 10, 2022, 09:56:09 PM
For those convinced masks work, I offer this link for your reading pleasure and new thing of which to be afraid (mask plastic stuck in your lungs).
https://www.westernstandard.news/features/study-finds-plastics-found-in-masks-present-in-patients-lungs/article_056590f2-0615-5bc9-aab0-730e7704634e.html

Also, ever since it was discovered that the "vaccines" and especially the boosters are causing large numbers of death and disability I've been trying to convince everyone I know to go get boosted. I reassure them the government knows best and never in the history of our country has the government ever been wrong or lied to us. Get boosted today. Get boosted tomorrow. Get boosted every month. Heck, our President has 2 shots and 2 boosters. He has only had Covid symptoms for several weeks this latest time.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on September 01, 2022, 04:39:12 AM
I got it a month ago.  no vaccine.  First day all my joints ached like heck.  after that it was like a bad cold or minor flu.  I have had ear problems all my life, so its affected my hearing.  I think I lost 1/3rd of my hearing and I can't hear where things are.  My taste went away for a few weeks but came back, but wierd.  I call it the inappropriate smells.  one day i walked into the garage and it smelled like baking cookies.  my car smelled like coconut suntan oil.  neither of them smell like that.  I;m fine now, I'm glad I never had the vaccine.  I never will take it.  That being said, Do what you do.  If it makes you feel better go for it homie.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on September 04, 2022, 10:51:01 PM
Well I just got it again and beat it again. No mask, no vax…never. Waiting for Novavax, then maybe.

Also, I finally got a new iPad Air 5th gen. I’m back. So what’s been going on here the last two years? Lol


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