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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #210 on: April 10, 2021, 02:44:48 PM »
You are overcomplicating the process.  "No air" means "No air".

In other words stop "Worrying the crap out us"  ;D
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« Reply #211 on: April 10, 2021, 03:11:14 PM »
I’m never gonna let my wife read this, other wise I’ll never stand a chance when using ‘due diligence’ for everything I do.


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« Reply #212 on: April 10, 2021, 03:13:15 PM »
I just fixed a mistake I made the other day. Anybody see it?


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« Reply #213 on: April 10, 2021, 03:39:52 PM »

Okay. That’s better.


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« Reply #214 on: April 10, 2021, 03:58:31 PM »
Cleaned the drum.
Quick even touch of coarse emery cloth.
Hit it with some brake clean. (Not the bearings.)
Wiped dry.
Thin layer of white lithium grease on seal.




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« Reply #215 on: April 10, 2021, 04:17:29 PM »



STOP!!!


Wipe that gunk off!!

The face of that seal should be clean and dry!  Smear lube around the black seal lips on the inside diameter of the seal.  The seal lips contact the axle housing, not the seal face!

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« Reply #216 on: April 10, 2021, 04:28:37 PM »
Man... I just came back to say I think I nailed adjusting the shoes... haha. Okay.

(I’ll pull it off and wipe it clean.)

And apply the the white lithium on the inside diameter just before bearing.

In regards to the adjusting the shoes through the window. I backed off the drum just a bit to peek inside and found my shoes were just about a mm or two away from the drum. Good stuff?

Also when I’m done, do I need to poke the adjustment lever into place or will braking in reverse do that for me?





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« Reply #217 on: April 10, 2021, 04:38:26 PM »
Ha, I’m getting a laugh out of this.
The concept of this seal just made sense...

I’ve been looking at the red lining around the steel, on the inside of the drum.

This black seal, is 110% healthy. Brand new and in great shape. Fullly confident in using it and now properly lubed!

Ha... thanks for that catch BD!


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« Reply #218 on: April 10, 2021, 04:54:34 PM »
Just thought of something.
If in order for me to check bearing clearance properly, I need zero drag, than I should probably back off the adjuster so the drum turns completely free of the shoes.

Then, bleed the brakes.
Tighten my lock nuts.
Throw the tire on.
Check for bearing play.

Sound about right, right?
(Or am I over thinking again.)


Edit*** that’s exactly what I just end up doing.
Also, to note, either the drums are perfectly round or the shoes are just a little off center.
I can hear them slightly drag and then not when I turn on both sides.

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« Reply #219 on: April 10, 2021, 05:01:35 PM »
1)  Adjust the bearings with the brakes backed off so there is no brake drag.

2)  Adjust the brakes.

3)  Finish bleeding the brakes.

4)  Test the pedal feel with it in the air.

5)  Install the axles.

6)  Fill the differential housing with lube.

7)  Road test on a quiet street.
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« Reply #220 on: April 10, 2021, 05:06:25 PM »
Copy.

I’ll do just that.

I’ll back off the shoes, assemble the inner locks and tabs as you specified before, pop the tire on and wiggle her around.
(Fingers crossed.)


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« Reply #221 on: April 10, 2021, 05:28:03 PM »
Adjust the bearings with all the lock nuts and be done with that part of it before going to the next steps.
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« Reply #222 on: April 10, 2021, 05:30:25 PM »
Yes! No play whatsoever!

I’ll pop the tire off, and get those shoes to just barely drag before calling that a day and moving to the bleeding them.

Excellent.


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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #223 on: April 10, 2021, 06:02:38 PM »
One more note about the bearings. They are probably pretty dry by now. Even if you fill the rear end to level,it won’t make it out to the bearings in time. Before you put the axles in try to get some gear oil in the bearing cavity.Not the big tube.  If you got the gear oil in small containers they should have given you a squeeze top. Don’t squirt to much as once the rear end starts turning it will make it out to the bearings in a few minutes.

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« Reply #224 on: April 10, 2021, 06:14:29 PM »
Thanks, Mike! Will do.

Bleeding the brakes now. Zero air. Good. Good. Good.


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