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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2024, 05:51:55 PM »
I think the only thing that makes them high volume is a different impeller. Castings would remain the same.

Edit: Removed comments and link for electrical cut-off switch and put it into the correct thread.
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2024, 06:23:24 AM »
The stock water pump circulating the coolant is what you need. Let the cooling system do its job as designed. Until the thermostat opens you are circulating it through the bypass circuit. If you wanted to increase cooling capacity use the big block radiator. What would you gain with (high volume) ?
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2024, 11:00:02 AM »
Thanks VZ! Mr. Diesel, I think you are correct in that the only difference is the HV has a slightly larger or different impeller in it.

I am beginning to think I should have bought a complete engine fully dressed with all accessories. It would have been about the same price or perhaps less expensive. Buying a short block and completing it really costs.
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2024, 12:14:01 PM »
With the quality of things these days you're better off. Plus you can say built, not bought.
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2024, 07:39:23 PM »
Your Thermostat isn't going to open up any further...

Unless they make a HV unit  ::)

Be my luck that someone does...
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2024, 09:55:58 PM »
I bought a:
Stant Superstat ® Premium Thermostat , 180 Degree
The description of the thermostat says:
Premium Superstat thermostat.
Uses high venturi for maximum cooling capacity during high temperature, high load oepration.
25% larger piston in diameter that delivers 1 1/2 the power of standard thermostats.
Stanless steel flange is burnished to a bright finish for stress relief and added corrosion resistance.
Thicker flange.
Fit type: Vehicle Specific
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2024, 10:55:25 PM »
I bought a:
Stant Superstat ® Premium Thermostat , 180 Degree
The description of the thermostat says:
Premium Superstat thermostat.
Uses high venturi for maximum cooling capacity during high temperature, high load oepration.
25% larger piston in diameter that delivers 1 1/2 the power of standard thermostats.
Stanless steel flange is burnished to a bright finish for stress relief and added corrosion resistance.
Thicker flange.
Fit type: Vehicle Specific

Curious

Wiki: "In inviscid fluid dynamics, an incompressible fluid's velocity must increase as it passes through a constriction in accord with the principle of mass continuity, while its static pressure must decrease in accord with the principle of conservation of mechanical energy (Bernoulli's principle). Thus, any gain in kinetic energy a fluid may attain by its increased velocity through a constriction is balanced by a drop in pressure".

 



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1978 K-10, 350 4BBL TH350 NP203 M.M. Part time Kit/Hubs
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2024, 11:01:19 AM »
I bought a:
Stant Superstat ® Premium Thermostat , 180 Degree
The description of the thermostat says:
Premium Superstat thermostat.
Uses high venturi for maximum cooling capacity during high temperature, high load oepration.
25% larger piston in diameter that delivers 1 1/2 the power of standard thermostats.
Stanless steel flange is burnished to a bright finish for stress relief and added corrosion resistance.
Thicker flange.
Fit type: Vehicle Specific
I bet your truck will do wheelies now... ;D
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2024, 02:08:48 PM »
Just hope with the water pump and thermostat, it wound over heat. My brother has 2 cars that will pull the front end off the ground. A 78 trans am race car and a 74 firebird daily driver.
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2024, 08:17:08 PM »
Worked on the engine some today. Installed the heads and wanted to get the pushrods measured for the proper length needed. Could not complete the pushrod measurement because my adjustable pushrod measuring tool appeared to be too long. The minimum length was the same as the OEM pushrod and I did not think it would be shorter.

I went ahead and put the intake manifold and valve covers on to see how they would look. I had to order new gaskets and they will not be in till Monday. The gaskets I had were not what the AFR Head manufacturer suggested. Still have to figure out my proper pushrod length and order the correct ones as well.

I removed my engine from the engine stand and put it on an engine cradle. Seems safer since all that weight is not being put on the back of the engine with four bolts for an extended time. Beside that, it is easier to move around and takes up less room. This is the first time I have ever used a cradle.
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2024, 06:59:51 PM »
4 bolts are fine as long as you aren't doing anything crazy. It's coming along!
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2024, 09:32:15 AM »
Looks good Mike!  Do the valve covers clear the power brake booster?
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2024, 10:25:34 AM »
Don't know yet!
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2024, 10:34:46 PM »
Strange, Was looking at was the list price of my 81 K10 when new, it was $7,920.00. The engine I am building for it cost more than what the list price was for my truck when new.
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Re: 357 (350 - .40 Over) Build Questions Etc
« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2024, 10:09:00 AM »
Yup, different times, but also extra possibilities, like a new block, not an over-bored veteran that needs a lot of machine work to make true.
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