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I can't remember, but I think I also used an oxy acetylene torch after I welded to heat up the weld area and areas around the weld to anneal it. I tried to do everything I knew to make it successful. I did have the ORD frame plate kit, but it fit so horribly and I didn't have a great way to beat it to death to try and make it match the frame contours.I run 35" tires with my crossover steering, so they aren't huge, but definitely bigger than stock.