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Offline Localbulldog

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Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« on: April 18, 2022, 11:34:41 PM »
1986 K20 Custom Deluxe
I replaced the printed circuit board today, cleaned sockets, new bulbs and new gauge clips.  I have one bulb not working that back lights the gauges which is located just above the wiring harness plug.  I've swapped out the bulb with other known working bulbs and its still not working. I have turn signals and 4 way flashers outside the truck and can hear the flashers for both but the turn signal indicators do not come on at the dash which I've also swapped out the bulbs with other working bulbs and its still not working.

All the lights worked prior to replacing the printed circuit board with the exception of the brake light which after removal was torn.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2022, 01:10:33 AM »
Compare the new PCB to the old PCB.  Make sure the circuit foil routings are identical.  Also, make sure that none of the foils are severed by an incorrectly broached hole through the new PCB.  If the PCB passes visual inspection, use an incandescent test light to verify power and ground to each bulb that doesn't illuminate.
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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2022, 05:44:38 AM »
Thank you! The two look the same with no breaks.  How do I run that test?

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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2022, 08:36:16 AM »
I put the old PCB back in and everything works with the exception of the brake light!  Bad PCB I guess ...

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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2022, 09:28:30 AM »
Verify a good ground point for the test light by clipping the test light to the proposed ground and probing a known B+ source in the fuse box.  If the test light illuminates, the test light ground is valid.

To verify power to the bulb socket, switch power to the bulb circuit ON and probe the socket terminals.  If the test light illuminates, the bulb socket is receiving power.  Note that only one socket terminal should illuminate the test light.  If both socket terminals illuminate the test light, either the bulb ground is open or power is being delivered to both sides of the bulb socket.  To determine which is the case, remove the bulb and probe both socket foils on the PCB.  Only one foil should be energized.

To verify ground to the bulb socket, clip the test light to the B+ source used earlier and probe the opposing bulb socket terminal.  If the test light illuminates, the bulb ground has been verified and the issue is with the bulb, its socket, or socket connections.  If the test light does not illuminate, there is a ground fault.

More than likely the problem is with the new PCB.  Are the foil contact points for the sockets and the IP harness connector bare copper, clean and bright?  You can use a soft pencil eraser to burnish them if needed, but be careful not to dislodge the foils from the PCB substrate.
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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2022, 10:56:06 AM »
Thank you for your response! 

When I had the new PCB installed I pulled the bulbs on the dash light and turn signals that were not working. I tested the bare sockets with an incandescent test light grounded to the ground block under the dash.  I noticed that in all cases one side of the socket lit the test light but the other side did not ... normal?

The results: 

With the lights on ... the dash light socket that wasn't working lit the test light but would not light a known working bulb. 
With the left turn signal in the on position ... the left turn signal socket did not light the test light and would not light a known working bulb. 
With the right turn signal in the on position ... the right turn signal lit the test light and blinked it but would not light a known working bulb.

I put the old PCB back in and all the dash lights lights and the turn signals operated as normal with the exception of the brake light which I confirmed the PCB was partially torn on that socket.

I contacted   and they are sending out a new PCB. 

Thank you for your help!   
« Last Edit: April 19, 2022, 10:57:52 AM by Localbulldog »

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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2022, 11:15:30 AM »
Smells of poor connections and incomplete grounds (for whatever reason).
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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2022, 11:23:16 AM »
 'poor connections and incomplete grounds'  On the PCB?

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Re: Turn Signal Indicators Not Working In Dash
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2022, 10:20:04 AM »
UPDATE
TWO PCB's from a well known supplier of which neither worked, a third PCB supplied by another vendor and everything works!