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Title: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 26, 2017, 03:52:05 PM
I'm having a heck of a time finding the appropriate flex hoses for my lifted front end. The part sold by Russell, part number 695710 is for lighter duty calipers than what are currently on my truck.

Here are pictures of my caliper and existing flex line:

(https://myuglytruck.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/20170526_133824.jpg)
(https://myuglytruck.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/20170526_133749.jpg)

This is a picture of what Russell offers:

(https://myuglytruck.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/20170526_134114.jpg)

Does anyone have the part number that I require, or perhaps offer an alternative or other suggestions?

I'm not really keen on downgrading my calipers if I can help it.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: ehjorten on May 26, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/braidedbrakelines.htm
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 26, 2017, 04:41:32 PM
we have this stickied in the suspension lift. but to sum it up if you want you can order the brake hose for your year and size truck (or axle if it differs) but get it for a 2wd.
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=31301.0
On another post we have a guy asking for "what size lift" we're guessing at this point. One thing I want to do is have people with lift kits with a known height, measure something. I have never installed anything other than a 6", I didn't have to replace the front drive shaft but it stretches it beyond the safe limit and while it will work it won’t hold up for much abuse. I also replaced the brake lines with stainless steel ones. I don't know what size lift you should replace the lines but while you're working on it may be a good time to replace them just to be on the safe side

Brake lines
Why waste money when you don’t have too or don’t have the extra money for those stainless braided fancy brake lines? When you can buy cheaper brake lines that will do the same thing


Front brake lines

New brake lines from 2wd C10 of the same era.. Slightly longer and bolt right on.
(http://i.imgur.com/8MHkD65.jpg)
Part # 36760 from Napa. Measures around 24.5" from end to end.
I've gotten most of what I need now but one of the biggest issues with these trucks is that in 1978? They switched from a 7/16" banjo fitting to a 10mm banjo fitting on the caliper. Now this means one could swap the calipers but that is going to be more money.

What I have discovered is NAPA part # 38622 and 38623 which are left/right brake hoses which are 26" in length but its a 10mm banjo nut. People have drilled this out successfully to 7/16" without any issues and that is what I think I will be doing.


Rear brake line

Napa part # 381272 which will give you 22.50" of length. I'm not sure what that part number is for or from but it worked well for me. I think it'll work mostly on the 73-80 years but may work on the later years as I'm not sure what the fittings are after 80.

(http://i.imgur.com/mKJEqRQl.jpg)

Front brake line
no LT Part number from autozone
Rear brake line
381272 brake line is for a 2000+Chevy
78843 autozones part number
Totals about $62 vs $105
 


also i kind of covered it
Cheapest 4" lift with skyjacker springs for under $700 with everything you need (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=34074.0)
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: hwh on May 26, 2017, 05:51:19 PM
i say offroad design also. i put 4 inch lift on my truck and got there front and rear brake lines worked great.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 26, 2017, 08:17:45 PM
Okay, thank you all. I saw one of those posts earlier when I was evaluating my springs and shocks. Somehow I didn't even think to consider it for the brake lines. The local parts store ordered the wrong part (for the 10mm bolt head) 3 times, and I guess I thought it was a bigger problem then it really is.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 26, 2017, 08:21:11 PM
the 10 mm is for the 78+. the 73-78 has the 7/16. if that helps you any
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 26, 2017, 08:26:45 PM
36760
(http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/1084128)
 (https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/UBK36760/UBK36760) for the left front. This comes stock on a 73-78 C30 $14.85
36759
(http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/1084126)
 (https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/UBK36759/UBK36759) for the right front. This comes stock on a 73-78 C30 $14.85
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 26, 2017, 08:29:33 PM
Quote
the 10 mm is for the 78+. the 73-78 has the 7/16. if that helps you any

I think that is where much of my confusion was coming from.

My truck is an 80, k20, Camper Special, which would tell me that the banjo bolts should be the 10mm, and the square block, however the calipers on my truck were definitely not this style as you can see in the pictures I posted.

I am making an assumption that the 7/16 and the 10mm are referring to the head of the bolt, and not the actual bolt size.

If I knew going into this that I had the wrong calipers on the truck, I would probably have switched them out to avoid confusion down the road, but now I have to live with it I think.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 26, 2017, 09:39:48 PM
could be an axle from an older truck was swapped in. i "think" the 10mm refers to the width of the bolt not the head
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 26, 2017, 10:08:57 PM
(http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/1088037)
this is the 10mm brake hose. compare that to the ones i posted above for the 7/16

and just one more thing. 73-78 is the dana 44 78+ is the 10 bolt. but the 44 was carried over in some applications

10 bolt
(http://www.justchevytrucks.com/images/261_re4R.jpg)

44
(http://www.justchevytrucks.com/images/300_re5L.jpg)
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 27, 2017, 12:00:12 AM
My front axle appears to be a GM 10-bolt to me.

(https://myuglytruck.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/20170526_2145041.jpg)

I put some calipers on the eye of the fitting and it is 10mm.

My conclusion is that I need the 10mm fittings.

The fittings you show above look a lot closer to any other fittings I've seen so far, so I'm going to go with that.

Someone please correct me if I am not correctly identifying my axle.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 27, 2017, 12:56:39 AM
looks like a 10 bolt to me
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: blazer74 on May 27, 2017, 01:10:51 PM
For reference my procomp lines are 26".   About a 5" lift and plenty long.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: GMCMedic on May 27, 2017, 03:34:55 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Skyjacker/825/FBL17/10002/-1?ymm=4294829803+4294829741+4294829351

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Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 27, 2017, 04:12:53 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Skyjacker/825/FBL17/10002/-1?ymm=4294829803+4294829741+4294829351

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those are OEM length.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: GMCMedic on May 27, 2017, 07:05:05 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Skyjacker/825/FBL17/10002/-1?ymm=4294829803+4294829741+4294829351

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those are OEM length.
Darn. Just read the description and I cant find the invoice for the ones I ordered for my 6" lift.

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Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 27, 2017, 09:42:22 PM
None of the ends shown in the picture look like mine.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 27, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
38622
(http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/1088037) (https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/UBK38622/UBK38622)
 for the left front. This comes stock on a 94 K2500 8600lbs $20.25
38623
(http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/GenuinePartsCompany/NWMDC?$Product=GenuinePartsCompany/1088039) (https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/UBK38623/UBK38623)
 for the right front. This comes stock on a 94 K2500 8600lbs $20.25
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 27, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
those are about 26"
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 27, 2017, 11:42:38 PM
Those ones look the closest. I was referring to the ones posted that were stock sizes.
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 28, 2017, 03:30:53 AM
ok
Title: Re: 4" lift extended front flex hoses
Post by: srozell on May 30, 2017, 07:44:49 PM
I spoke to Chris at ORD and was really impressed with him. After a minute on the phone he knew exactly what I needed and is shipping it to me.

I'm really not impressed with my local parts suppliers for being so clueless.