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Offline kiowamec

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M4MED Wiring
« on: April 18, 2009, 08:34:47 PM »
I found the thread for the schematic of the M4MED.
Does anyone know the voltage supplied to the solenoid?
I will be using this carb without the computer.

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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 09:08:01 PM »
12V. How do you plan to control it?
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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2009, 09:31:25 PM »
I'm looking for a temp switch.

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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2009, 09:33:38 PM »
You might be better off manually controlling it.
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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2009, 09:38:22 PM »
I have some time before I need it.
An adjustable fan switch might work.
Do you know what sensor is used in the original application?

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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2009, 09:46:39 PM »
I'm not too proud...What is a M4MED? Don't think I've ever of it. Thanks, Lorne

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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2009, 10:37:25 PM »
A Quadrajet produced in 85 and 86.
M4MED is a electric choke carb with dual capacity pump solenoid used on Federal trucks and various Canadian vehicles

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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 10:57:40 PM »
Oh, Ok, I was just asking about one of those the other day, I didn't know the correct term/code, what have you. Thanks! Lorne

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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 07:38:56 AM »
The M4MED uses the e solenoid to control a/f ratio during cold driving. Don't confuse it with an E4ME which uses 3C and the M/C Solenoid. Maybe it's time for a technical post on this.
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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 07:58:24 AM »
Chris maybe you can take the meat and potatoes out of this thred and make it into a tech info post.

M4M Carburetors:

The M4M series (M4MC, M4ME, M4MED and M4MEF) Quadrajet carburetor is a four barrel, two stage unit consisting of three major assemblies: The air horn, float bowl and throttle body.
A single float chamber supplies the fuel to the four carburetor bores. A float, float needle and float seat are used to control the fuel level within the float chamber. A vacuum operated power piston and metering rods control the air/fuel metering in the primary throttle bores. The tapered metering rods are attached to the power valve piston assembly, moving in fixed metering jets to provide the various fuel flow requirements of the engine. A factory adjusted part throttle screw is used on all models to properly position the metering rods in the metering jets. The M4MEF model, in addition to the part throttle screw mentioned previously, also contains a rich stop adjusting bushing to position the enrichment portion of the metering rods in the jets. This bushing enables an adjustable wide open throttle mixture control capability. During wide open throttle operation, the air/fuel mixture in the secondary bores is controlled by air valves and tapered metering rods operating in fixed jets. On M4MEF models, the factory adjusted secondary well air bleed adjusting screw provides additional control of the air/fuel mixture during wide open throttle modes.
The accelerator pump system on all models uses a conventional throttle actuated pump plunger operating in a pump well, to provide additional fuel as needed. In addition, M4MED models are equipped with float bowl mounted dual capacity pump valve and solenoid assemblies. These assemblies provide a smoother transition from idle to part throttle operation during cold engine driving modes.
All carburetors use either electrically or hot air heated choke coils. The heated coils provide choke valve closing force for cold starts, as well as correct opening timing during warm-up. Vacuum break assemblies control initial choke valve opening during starting and warm-up periods.
Curb idle speeds are controlled, depending on engine and application, by either an idle speed adjusting screw or an idle speed solenoid. On vehicles without air conditioning, the idle speed solenoid provides desired idle speed, while preventing dieseling when the ignition switch is turned off. On vehicles with air conditioning, the solenoid maintains smooth idle during compressor clutch engagement. Vehicles without an idle speed solenoid are equipped with a throttle kicker assembly. The vacuum operated throttle kicker holds the throttle open during deceleration, thereby reducing exhaust emissions. On some engines, it is also used to increase idle speed depending on accessory load.

E4M Carburetors:

The E4M series (E4MC, E4ME, E4MED) carburetors are used on vehicles equipped with the Computer Command Control (C3) System. An electrically operated mixture control solenoid, mounted in the float bowl, is used to control the air and fuel metered to the idle and main metering systems of the carburetor. Fuel metering is controlled by two special stepped or tapered primary metering rods operating in removable jets. The metering rods are positioned by a plunger in the solenoid, which is controlled by an electrical signal from the electronic control module. Air metering to the idle system is controlled by an idle air bleed valve located in the air horn, which follows the movement of the mixture control solenoid plunger and thereby controls the amount of bleed air into the idle system. A throttle position sensor, mounted in the float bowl, is used to electrically signal the electronic control module as to the various changes in throttle position.
On E4MED models, a dual capacity pump valve and combined mixture control/dual capacity pump solenoid assembly is used. These assemblies provide a smoother transition from idle to part throttle operation during cold engine operation.
An idle speed solenoid or a throttle kicker assembly, depending on engine and application, is used to control curb idle speed. The throttle kicker is vacuum operated and controlled by the electronic control module. It maintains primary throttle position during deceleration, above a specified RPM. The idle speed solenoid, used primarily on air conditioned vehicles, maintains correct curb idle speed whenever the compressor clutch is engaged.
All carburetors use electrically heated choke coils. The heated coils provide choke valve closing force for cold starts, as well as correct opening timing during warm-up. Vacuum break assemblies control initial choke valve opening during starting and warm-up periods.

To ID yours:
The carburetor identification number is stamped on the left rear corner of the float bowl casting, adjacent to the secondary throttle lever.



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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 01:00:10 AM »
I almost missed the temp switch on the diagram.
I can't seem to find it listed on part store web sites.
Hopefully someone on the forum has access to some better information.

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Re: M4MED Wiring
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Re: M4MED Wiring
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 07:21:06 PM »
No, like the P/N of the temp switch.
It is clearly a stand alone system as shown in the diagram.
I also would like to know where it was originally mounted.