Re: Anyone heard of or going to this?

[VileZambonie]

I'm ready to move. I hate this state more and more every day. You'll never see an event like this around here. Too many DB's

[philo_beddoe]

I'm ready to move. I hate this state more and more every day. You'll never see an event like this around here. Too many DB's

, I’m right behind ya man! I might even tough out the heat in Florida, what a free state. Dan Bongino is always bragging about it. South Dakota is on the list too, both have awesome smart freedom-loving patriotic governors. West Virginia is up there too, every county is red.

Yeah, CT is getting real bad, I should talk, I live in MA, the only reason we don’t have another mask mandate is, our governor knows he’s toast if he issues it.

2022 could be a red tsunami.

[VileZambonie]

Yep, they just jumped on the mask bandwagon again, announcing mask wearing for the start of school again. Morons!

[JohnnyPopper]

VZ you'll love this one:

Per CDC

161m Vaccinated, of which
-6K Infected or 0.0037%
1200 deaths or 0.00074%

Head fake anyone?

[VileZambonie]

I'm just gonna shut up before I say something I regret

[ehjorten]

How about this...
About 630,000 people have died from Covid in the USA
There are about 332,915,000 people in the USA
Mortality Rate ~ 0.189%
Seasonal Flu Mortality Rate ~ 0.01%
Over 18 times more deadly.

Now you can argue about Covid death certificates, but even if HALF of all Covid deaths were lies, you still have a mortality rate that is nearly 10 times that of seasonal flu. Also...Covid cases are on the rise and nearly all of them are unvaccinated and hospitals are getting filled-up again. This makes the vaccinated now the silent killers, because they can still get Covid and pass it on to the unvaccinated while not feeling much of anything themselves. Yes, there will always be some break-through cases, but by-and-large it is the unvaccinated that are getting sick. This is the reason for some of the talks and implementations about new mask mandates. Especially in schools, they have to set policy early and with the data right now, they are making decisions. The 1918 Spanish Influenza saw three waves before it was ever really over. We are in the start of our third wave now. It sucks, but we have done all of this before over 100 years ago, and we are still "free". This too shall pass. Myself personally, I would feel horrible if I gave Covid to a young child or an elderly person and they died from it. I'll do my part to help get us out of this pandemic.

[JohnnyPopper]

And of ALL the deaths attributed to COVID, only a small fraction died from the VIRUS. The balance died from comorbidities.

78% were overweight or obese. (See Mr. Wonderful himself "Bill Mahr" for the stat.)

[VileZambonie]

I think your math is off, not to mention the statistical data is based on what, from where and by whom? Nobody died from the flu, everyone is dead from Covid (Caching). I just buried my double vaccinated aunt last weekend who died from COVID. The vaccine is not a vaccine and masks do not save lives. Turn off the news and get back to living life while you have one people.

[Mr Diesel]

How about this...
About 630,000 people have died from Covid in the USA

Yeah, those numbers are completely bogus. The CDC tracks total U.S. deaths, and 2020 was a completely average year. Here is a link comparing 2020 to past years, with CDC references.
https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths

Wake up people, you have been had by the biggest scam ever pulled on the American people. Covid is a real thing and potentially deadly to some people, but it is no more dangerous than the yearly flu. I defy anyone to look at the death numbers in the above link and provide any rational explanation where all those claimed 300k+ deaths went in 2020
A statistical average number of people died, but they continued to die of the usual causes with a slight  overall increase, probably due to Covid. But apparently we have cured cancer, heart disease, and every other common cause of death because now the only thing anyone dies of is Covid.

[VileZambonie]

Bingo! Cancer is now irrelevant along with every other disease that has plagued us. Fear mongering, control, big gov't, big pharma, political divide... I've never been so disgusted by the media and our current state of this country. I canceled cable and no longer watch mainstream news. Life has improved.

Also, let's just say the stat's provided are bullseye, that means 99.81% of the country did not die from Covid. I've lost two family members as a result of COVID-19 so I am not saying it does not exist or that it is not deadly, but using it to control people through fear is unacceptable. Clearly we have a country filled with people that believe anything that the media puts out there. Change the channel and get a different story, different stats, unconfirmed sources with bad data and no one questions it. Be ready for the next variant to destroy your other favorite local small business in town while you are made to wear a face diaper in public.

[ehjorten]

I think your math is off, not to mention the statistical data is based on what, from where and by whom? Nobody died from the flu, everyone is dead from Covid (Caching). I just buried my double vaccinated aunt last weekend who died from COVID. The vaccine is not a vaccine and masks do not save lives. Turn off the news and get back to living life while you have one people.

You think my math is off, or you know it is? Based on what? Here is math...take 630,000 reported deaths, divide by 332,915,000 population of the USA, and then multiply that by 100 to get a percentage. What number do you come up with?

The data comes from the CDC.

I won't ask you about your recently deceased Aunt out of respect.

How exactly is the vaccine not a vaccine?

What evidence do you have that masks do not save lives?

[ehjorten]

How about this...
About 630,000 people have died from Covid in the USA

Yeah, those numbers are completely bogus. The CDC tracks total U.S. deaths, and 2020 was a completely average year. Here is a link comparing 2020 to past years, with CDC references.
https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths

Wake up people, you have been had by the biggest scam ever pulled on the American people. Covid is a real thing and potentially deadly to some people, but it is no more dangerous than the yearly flu. I defy anyone to look at the death numbers in the above link and provide any rational explanation where all those claimed 300k+ deaths went in 2020
A statistical average number of people died, but they continued to die of the usual causes with a slight  overall increase, probably due to Covid. But apparently we have cured cancer, heart disease, and every other common cause of death because now the only thing anyone dies of is Covid.

I have a step-daughter that works as a nurse in a major hospital in Columbus, Ohio and I also have a cousin that is an APRN out of Boise, Idaho, so I have some direct source information. If Covid is no more dangerous than the yearly flu, and nurses and doctors do not agree with you on that, then how come we had trailers full of dead bodies? Did they hide the trailers full of dead bodies from the flu? Also...how would the, over 600,000 dead in the US from Covid have played out if we did nothing? If we didn't shutdown, mask up, etc.?

How do you classify someone who has heart disease (leading cause of death in the US) that would have lived with heart disease for a decade or more, but died due to complications with Covid? Same thing with Cancer...they might live for many, many more years, but died from complications caused by Covid? Is that a Covid death or a Cancer death? Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease? Diabetes? Just because someone has a comorbidity doesn't mean they died last year from that disease and Covid had nothing to do with it.

Finally...the data you posted is accurate according to the CDC records, but not for 2020. For 2020 the death rate in the USA is reported by the CDC as 3,358,814 not 2,913,144, so the increase  is more like 17.6% and not average!

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

And wow!!! Covid is not reported as the only killer, it is reported as the 3rd most leading killer, after heart disease and cancer. I guess those didn't go away after all.

I will end my rant here with...I am not terribly scared of Covid, but I have done my part. I got vaccinated, I wore a mask, I physically distanced. The last part wasn't too hard because I am a home body anyways and have a small circle of close friends and a tight knit family. I took some calculated risks with my family during Covid. My step father had triple bypass heart surgery in the later part of 2020, so I was very careful to stay away from him until he had had some time to heal and then I was careful around him after when we had some birthday parties with friends invited. My wife has some mild asthma, so we were pretty careful there, but still took some risks. I don't live in fear and we mostly went about our lives with the exception of everything being shutdown. I finally broke down after resisting showing my vaccine card at work, so that I could "wear a pin" and not wear a mask. I was just sick and tired of wearing a mask at work. Anyways...back to work...enough with this stuff for today.

[VileZambonie]

No one is saying don't get vaccinated or not to wear a mask. Imposing mandates without factual data and verifiable sources, testing done correctly without using human livestock as the guinea pigs, everything that is wrong with all of this is where at least half of the country, including myself have a problem. My degree is in business administration, I got an A in advanced calc and in stats so I know how to calculate percentages  . My point about your math, is using round about numbers and data that has clearly been manipulated. It's no secret that a COVID labeled death = extra payouts for hospitals. Garbage in = Garbage out metrics. In business, we find many ways to make our numbers look the way we want, trust me, rarely is it accurate.

My cousin died last year and they said he had covid, when he did not! His wife later died from cancer and they labeled her a Covid death too. I'm not dumb enough to believe all the BS, I see and believe what I see and that's it. I will not be convinced otherwise, at this time. All of us are entitled to our perceptions and beliefs. I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to follow my beliefs or stifle theirs.

[Mr Diesel]

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How exactly is the vaccine not a vaccine?

What evidence do you have that masks do not save lives?
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Well, since it was asked I did a quick google search to answer. Since people apparently only trust doctors i even made sure it was only doctors cited in the links below.

Tons of evidence masks aren't working. Here is Fauci himself saying it early last year DURING THE PANDEMIC.
https://m.facebook.com/DeannaForCongress/videos/368249931220565

Here is an interesting doctor explaining why the MRNA drugs aren't actually vaccines (this video was made before release of the blood clot and Guillan Barre causing Johnson and Johnson vaccine).
https://rumble.com/vf8hov-the-covid-19-so-called-vaccine-is-really-a-dangerous-experimental-gene-ther.html

[Mr Diesel]

And in case people need something more recent, here is an article from TODAY where a former Biden advisor (and doctor, to keep consistency with my last post) is admitting the masks have done nothing.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-covid-adviser-americans-need-to-wear-n95-masks


Here is a good quote directly from him:
"We know today that many of the face cloth coverings that people wear are not very effective in reducing any of the virus movement in or out," Osterholm, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said.