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Title: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 08, 2018, 09:39:31 AM
Good morning guys,

A few months back my throttle cable frayed and my throttle got stuck half way open. I ended up using speaker wire to get to work and buying a universal throttle cable to fix it, which worked great until recently. I noticed about a month ago the pedal felt stiff, like it gets stuck and if I push harder it eventually gives but then it tries to go to the floor which makes for fast starts, spinning tires, angry cops, and poor gas mileage, not to mention real difficult in the rain. Upon investigating the issue I found that the cable rubs on the top of the guide that passes through the firewall. The throttle works perfect by hand at the carb, the pedal works fine without the cable hooked up. I tried to reposition the guide to no avail. Has anyone here had the same issue and fixed it? If so, how did you fix it?
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: Irish_Alley on February 08, 2018, 10:12:34 AM
why did you get a universal one? why not a direct replacement?
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 08, 2018, 10:26:01 AM
Because there wasn't any one local that had a direct replacement. Even now I have to order and my choices are Pioneer 23.75" and ATP 24". My issue is the new and the original both mount in the same location and no matter how much I push the guide up while tightening it the cable still rubs on the top of the guide, looking at the pedal in relation to the guide it looks like the pedal mounting for the cable us higher than the hole in the firewall for the guide. Yet the original didn't rub and was mounted in the same hole with no angle.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: bd on February 08, 2018, 10:48:14 AM
Can you post a pic?
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Post by: VileZambonie on February 08, 2018, 11:34:10 AM
If you used an aftermarket cut to length cable, you need to make sure it is the correct length and a clean cut sleeve free of burs.

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why did you get a universal one? why not a direct replacement?

Unless you are running a factory setup, you will usually need to modify the factory cable too. The jacket may need to be cut down etc.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 08, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
I'm running 350 with vortec heads with an Edelbrock intake and 1406 carb. The truck had a 250 inline 6 in it before and the throttle cable always seemed to have 2 sharp bends in it making an S shape going to the carb. We had a clean cut and made sure we had no burrs when we installed the new cable, but I noticed last night the plastic behind the bracket was split, so I'll likely buy a new cable, but don't want to run into the same issue.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 08, 2018, 12:32:10 PM
Here's a pic of what I'm referring to.
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Post by: Irish_Alley on February 08, 2018, 01:43:32 PM
im learning on this but does that one have a rubber jacket or some sort of jacket?
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 08, 2018, 01:51:14 PM
It has a braided line up to the firewall, then a hollow bolt(?) That goes through the firewall.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: VileZambonie on February 08, 2018, 06:29:10 PM
You need to replace it. The cable needs to be inside of a sleeve. That is definitely installed incorrectly
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 08, 2018, 06:47:47 PM
It is exactly how it is sold in a new sealed package. It's possible there's a sleeve inside the braided line but I'm not positive. It was a universal most parts stores carry.
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Post by: VileZambonie on February 08, 2018, 07:05:55 PM
Okay I looked closer on my PC. That is the interior view. On the engine compartment side it should be inside of the sleeve right up to the cable bracket.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 09, 2018, 07:45:49 AM
In the engine bay it has braided steel over it. I would think there is a plastic sleeve inside of that, but I really can't tell just by looking at it. It was the universal cable you can find at any parts store and I believe the brand was Mr. Gasket. I tried to pick up an ATP factory replacement cable last night, only advance had it nearby and they closed early of course...so if it's fraying again then I'll have to either order one from summit or get another universal to replace it.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: Irish_Alley on February 09, 2018, 08:23:16 AM
https://www.autozone.com/fuel-delivery/accelerator-cable/pioneer-accelerator-cable/23648_778614_0
is the pioneer replacement for the 77 c10 with a 350
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on February 09, 2018, 10:35:54 AM
Please stay away from pioneer;  They tried, but they just didn't cut the mustard.   

Try to get an OEM GM from a salvage yard or someone may have one.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: Irish_Alley on February 09, 2018, 12:10:00 PM
i put a pioneer cable on my 94 c1500 prob about 10 years ago. still on my c1500 to this day, not sure if i got lucky
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 09, 2018, 03:06:37 PM
I've heard pioneer is junk from many people, and almost as many said the same about ATP, I ended up calling in a favor from a shop and having them get me one since I was having so much trouble finding one nearby and commercial companies always get the parts quicker.
Title: Re: Throttle cable rubbing?
Post by: travisr1988 on February 26, 2018, 08:33:26 AM
I ended up getting an ATP, which works fine, only problem I ran into is it wouldn't snap into the firewall with the rubber gasket in place. Other than that it seems to work good, throttle feels great now.