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Offline Farm boy

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Truck engine cutting out
« on: May 04, 2012, 10:02:32 AM »
I have a 1980 Chevy K10 with a 350 and Holly carb (4 barrel with vacuum secondary). I had just fixed a electrical problem and took it out for a test drive. After five miles I was braking and the engine cut out for a second (no more than that), well I figured it was just a glitch and didn't worry about it so we continued on to a parking lot put the cleaner in the trany (I wanted to run SeaFome though it), and headed for home. So on the way home I was accelerating really slow to keep it in each gear as long as I could, but at the last intersection I really pouched it. I made it to about 35-40mph and the engine just died, so i pulled it into a driveway and tried to start it but I couldn't. So we towed it home and it sat till the next day at which point i tried starting it, and it started right up first try.

So any ideas on what is wrong with my truck?
K10-350 w/Holley 4bl, 350th, 33-12.5-15s, blue)-parting out
K10-350 w/Holly 4bl, bad th350 swapping to sm465, 33-12.5-15s, CAMO!

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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 11:28:22 AM »
If it dies like you turn the key off, it could be the pickup coil and/or ignition module.  You can rig a test light to the distributor power lead to monitor while driving.  If the test light stays lit when the engine dies then you probably have distributor issues.  These days it's probably cheaper to replace the complete distributor than individual pieces.   If it dies gradually, it's probably fuel related.
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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 04:05:17 PM »
I don't know exactly how fast it died because I had the window open, and I didn't have the new tach installed yet. But it was pretty quick though.
K10-350 w/Holley 4bl, 350th, 33-12.5-15s, blue)-parting out
K10-350 w/Holly 4bl, bad th350 swapping to sm465, 33-12.5-15s, CAMO!

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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 10:22:59 PM »
Loose feed conetion? positive wire running to your dis.

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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 08:00:19 AM »
Like bd said the module in the distributor would be where I would start.I had a 1976 truck do me the same way,I replaced the whole distrbutor with a billet alunimum one for around 150.00 the truck ran like a new one from then on.

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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 08:49:27 AM »
I had a coil that was intermediately breaking-down in my '68 stepside once.  It would occassionally just die and not want to start, but after it sat for a bit it would fire right back up like nothing was wrong!  Might want to have your coil checked-out.
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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 03:12:47 PM »
I guess it's time for another under hood adventure:) Were would the best place to get distributor parts? Just go to auto zone or would I be better off getting it online?
K10-350 w/Holley 4bl, 350th, 33-12.5-15s, blue)-parting out
K10-350 w/Holly 4bl, bad th350 swapping to sm465, 33-12.5-15s, CAMO!

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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 05:33:39 PM »
I guess it's time for another under hood adventure:) Were would the best place to get distributor parts? Just go to auto zone or would I be better off getting it online?
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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 07:23:05 PM »
Before purchasing a bunch of parts, take a look at this post by Vile:

http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,23628.msg197152.html#msg197152
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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 08:59:50 PM »
Thanks, I do believe I'll go that rout. And I must say I never thought I'd see a clear distributor.

Edit: Are you sure that it isn't worth buying it by it's self? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Duralast-Ignition-Coil/1980-Chevrolet-K10-1-2-ton-P-U-4WD/_/N-ilziuZ9n80r?itemIdentifier=111997_0_0_&vehicleIdForService=217449055 now that's if that is the only problem; if not than I'll just buy the hole thing.
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K10-350 w/Holley 4bl, 350th, 33-12.5-15s, blue)-parting out
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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 07:47:23 AM »
You would be better off to buy standard ignition parts in the red boxes not the cheaper green boxes from your local speed shop or napa  or car quest.I never had any good luck with auto zone anything.Make sure when buying a distributor cap and rotor,you get the ones with the brass contacts not the galvanized ones, the brass ones last and perform alot better.

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Re: Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 09:32:20 AM »
Thanks, I do believe I'll go that rout. And I must say I never thought I'd see a clear distributor.

Edit: Are you sure that it isn't worth buying it by it's self? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Duralast-Ignition-Coil/1980-Chevrolet-K10-1-2-ton-P-U-4WD/_/N-ilziuZ9n80r?itemIdentifier=111997_0_0_&vehicleIdForService=217449055 now that's if that is the only problem; if not than I'll just buy the hole thing.
Best to buy the whole thing. It will perform better:)

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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 09:42:30 AM »
...Are you sure that it isn't worth buying it by it's self? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Duralast-Ignition-Coil/1980-Chevrolet-K10-1-2-ton-P-U-4WD/_/N-ilziuZ9n80r?itemIdentifier=111997_0_0_&vehicleIdForService=217449055 now that's if that is the only problem; if not than I'll just buy the hole thing.

Truth is: it amounts to personal preference and choice. 
As you said, if the ignition coil is the problem, and the only problem....  (The distributor doesn't need to be removed to replace the ignition coil).  Or, if the module is "the" problem, and the "only" problem, AND you diagnose it correctly out the gate, it's cheaper to replace the single component....  But, if you replace the coil OR module and still have an issue cutting out, then you decide you need to replace the pickup coil, as well....  (The distributor must be removed and disassembled to replace the pickup coil).  You see where this can go.
It's personal preference.

...Best to buy the whole thing. It will perform better:)

If you diagnose it correctly and replace the right parts, fixed is fixed.   :)
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Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 10:54:11 AM »
as far as i know the pick-up coil cant be tested and the icm may test good but be bad. can have something to do with heat, and the same goes for the coil. and about the brass parts yes its true but last time i check most spark plugs arnt brass. and lets say you need a new cap and rotor thats about 25 bucks right there. then you just buy one part thats another 20 bucks then its the wrong part now you have to buy another. that distributor vile posted is with the cap and rotor plus one part. the icm does tend to fail once it reaches a certain temp and work good cold. this is why its hard to test on a bench cause it wont work long enough to get that hot
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Re: Re: Truck engine cutting out
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 12:14:55 PM »
as far as i know the pick-up coil cant be tested and the icm may test good but be bad. can have something to do with heat, and the same goes for the coil. and about the brass parts yes its true but last time i check most spark plugs arnt brass. and lets say you need a new cap and rotor thats about 25 bucks right there. then you just buy one part thats another 20 bucks then its the wrong part now you have to buy another. that distributor vile posted is with the cap and rotor plus one part. the icm does tend to fail once it reaches a certain temp and work good cold. this is why its hard to test on a bench cause it wont work long enough to get that hot
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