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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => 73-87 Chevy & GMC Trucks => Topic started by: hotrod24 on December 10, 2008, 04:15:59 pm
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ok today it was not raining so i thought i would roll it down there it looks nice now and all my parts and tools are down there to so no more getting wet it might not be a big shop but it works i will have pics later
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It is against the law to mention that youve built a new garage of some kind and not post a picture of it. Im not sure where that law is written down, but Im sure its there somewhere lol
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lol yea man i am going to get pictures soon
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here it is i hope to get concrete because all is there is mud
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I hope that puppy is anchored to the ground in case of those wild winds once in a while
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yea when they came and put it up they drove big stakes in the ground
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Better center the truck better be a real pita working on the driver side.
Looks good though
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thanks yea i am going to take the cab off soon after i build a dolly so i will need to center it :)
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Awesome congrats hotrod.
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thanks man it is a start
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You should put a tarp down to keep the moisture out from underneath the truck... Looks good though
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Looks Good Dusty 8) A few bags of Quik-Crete will help anchor it, and keep moisture from under your Project ;) Definately a Nice Starting Point for ya though 8) 8) 8)
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Looks good, at least it keeps the ran off your head. Once you get it tarped in nobody will find you any more. You'll be hangin' out in the man cave.
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thanks guys :)
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congrats! Nothing like keeping the weather off you.. Now just tarp down the sides.
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That is a nice start. Always good to have a place to work where the rain is off your head. ;D
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thanks chris and jeff it is better then outside
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Looks good!
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thanks man
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Very nice!
We have two of those at work to hold our pallets in out of the weather. Recently boxed the sides in using the same pattern panels.
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ok i know this is a old thread but i thought i would go ahead and post i have been trying to get some trees cut for the longest time finally we got them down last weekend and yesterday my dad brought home a Caterpillar so today he start clearing out and we hit some big rocks so thats why it is up in the air lol but we got the place cleared out for my carport up here and my truck and the 383 so i am ready to get down and dirty lol with this truck here are some pics of today
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me and my dad
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me watching and praying lol
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pimp dude, its gonna suck using a creeper on the dirt floor though. unless you put some big offroad tires on it. hahah. Looks great.
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Looks nice to me. I may be hunting one of those carports soon, since I'm fixing up the old tractor now I'll need a place for it to be covered, so might as well get one big enough for both of them.
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Nice carport. Deffinately beats working in the rain. Down the road you can get the side for that and some "crush and run" or 57's and prep it for concrete.
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yea the ground is all rock with about a foot of dirt so it should be ok for now i wont have any tools or anything sinking lol but it will suck to have to lay on the ground but i am going to get it closed in soon i hope
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Good deal! You should build a retaining wall and put some curtain drains around it with some process down and pack it good.
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I bet your happy to have it finally up top where your near it now and now you need to get your GP in there and sort thru the parts you got and scrap the junk and keep the good stuff... Congrats on getting the carport up top finally...
thanks
pat
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thanks guys yea it is nice to have close only thing is that it is muddy so i am going to stop that and i we are going to drill out that rock in the back
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ok for the past few days i have been shoveling mud off the bank all it has done here is RAIN and there is a big mud hole under my truck so i have been shoveling mud and shoveling and i found a big rock that goes from one end to the other so i am going to drill it out and build a wall out of 6x6s around the carport and that should take care of that then i need to clean up my tools and parts and it is back to the truck and tear down until i can get concrete and close it in i will have pics of the progress
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w00t I passed many a truck today. Few were lit up like christmas trees as it was daylight but still. Trucks.
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w00t I passed many a truck today. Few were lit up like christmas trees as it was daylight but still. Trucks.
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I think that is what happens when you drive one of our trucks while high, you see christmas lights on trucks passing you. :o
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ok for the last few day i have been thanking of getting blocks or 6x6s for the wall i want to go the cheapest way so my question is which one would it be and how many blocks or 6x6s would i need?
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Are you building a 3 sided wall around the cover? How high? I would think a footing would be required. If you just want to keep out the wash, try a shallow ditch around the perimeter then pound a few stakes and put up toe-boards.
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yea it will be a three sided wall and the back will be 6ft tall and the sides 4ft i know it will take less 6x6s then blocks but the 6x6s are 19.97 a peace and the blocks are $0.88 and concrete bags
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Me, I am a better carpenter than mason. That would make my descision. But, then I don't think I would build a block wall without the proper footing below frost line, either.
NOTE: These are rough calculations and do not account for overlap at corners.
Blocks:
8x8x12 so to cover 63ft (21ft each side) to 6ft would take 21blocks for each course for each side. Then 9 courses (not counting the frost line) plus 1/2 mortar joint would get you over 6ft and 6 courses will get you over 4ft.
21x9=189
42x6=252
=441 blocks. Then at $0.63... you get $278.
Timbers:
(assuming 8ft lengths)
2.625 timbers for each course to cover each 21ft side.
Then each timber is 5.5in high so you need about 13 courses to reach 6ft and 9 courses to reach 4ft
2.625x13=34.125
2.625x2x9=47.25
=81.375 6x6 timbers @ $19.97 = $1625 ouch.
Both of thes options are very overbuilt for your purpose and would handle quite a load. You will be placing no load on the wall. If I understand your needs, all you want is to keep the rain out.
A fence might be the better option. 4x4 posts at 8ft on centers and some 1x4 treated slats morticed in horizontally at a 45 degree angle to shed water and provide ventilation at the same time. Then do the drainage thing vile was talking about just out side the fence.
Just a thought.
*EDIT* just re-read the part 4ft sides... recalculating... adjusted for 4ft sides.
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Curtain drains and process with a footing along with a concrete retaining wall would be your best bet. Get some rebar and make a steel grid.
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Wow, that's great helping you with your carport and Truck with stuff under of it. I love that beautiful blue and white color, is that original? I'm wondering what year and model of your Truck? It look like 1973-1980 with white color sides and aluminum moldings.
I got a new carport last early Feb, I'm glad to having a brand new carport for my '84 GMC. So, that'll helps me to cooling off in the hot weather and rain off my Truck. I having very hard time to restoring her... it's been sitting for 4 months 'cuz due front end had rusted out. My friend and I rid some rusts off my baby and getting ready to modified high performance 305 Chevy engine with fair idle racing cam into her. I can't wait to driving my baby and having fun to cruising around, meeting the cruisers every Saturdays.. I couldn't believe there's a CROWD of hot rods, older and newer vehicles, many more! :o I'll post many pics of my project Truck in "Member's Project" board soon, for you to viewing my Truckin. :)
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whats up, well for the last month and few weeks i have been digging and digging and moving rock out from around my carport so i can put up a retaining wall and what fun it is lol i have not got much done because of storms and rain but have got alot of rock out i bought a mattock a week ago and it works pretty good but i was thinking and you know a air hammer just aint for body work lol it works good for rock to so i am going to get up under the bigger rocks and then bust them out i should have alot more done in the next week or two but for now here is some pics.
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Might just be the pics but, that looks more like ledge.
You know what else works good to break up big rocks / ledge? BLACK POWDER ;D ;D ;D
Use a hammer drill and drill 3/8" to 1/2" X 6" to 12" deep holes along any natural fissure, or just right across the rock. Slide a piece of fuse in, pour a fair charge of powder in, pack it, then pack some stone dust from drilling in on top, then pound a wood plug into the top of the hole. Do 2 to 4 holes at once. Try to make the fuses all the same length so they all blow at the same time. Light them, flop a piece of 3/4 plywood over them, and run! Works good, and is fun too!!
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yea blazin you are right it is a pain to lol i have thought about dynamite but i think you have to get license for it these days i know you do here
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You can buy black powder at any gun / sporting goods shop, or Walmart! Walmart doesn't sell fuse though, that I have to get a sporting goods store. Thats what I load my cannon with.
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Hotrod- wouldn't it be easier for you to move the frame out away from that ledge? buy some 1 1/2" rock and lay down a good base. Then on top of it buy some crusher run rock and lay that down. Move your structure out and place it on the rock. Or is that gonna put your frame at an angle on the hill?
Any time you put up that size of a retaining wall you need a concrete footer.
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i dont know if it would put it at a angle or not but after i put up the retaining wall i am going to get the crushed rock and put it down as a floor for now is that what you mean?
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save yourself some money and don't put crushed rock directly on the dirt, it will sink down into the dirt in no time. I'd get a medium to larger size gravel to place down first, then crushed on top of that foundation. But then again, a yard or two of concrete will do wonders.
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yea i know what you mean if i dont have the money to get concrete right away i will get the gravel and the crushed rock and put it down for now untill i get concrete
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Here's what I used to break apart my ledge
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yea my dad has one at work lol i ask him why did you not bring it when you had the cat he said i dont know
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The ledge will be a great footer. If it goes all the way under your structure I would just drill it, pin it, build your form, and pour your concrete in the normal fasion with a re bar grid.
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yea it does all of it is rock in the back i dont know how much it would cost to get a wall poured but i will check in to it
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hey guys for the last week i have been digging dirt yea more dirt lol to uncover all of the rock so i can get the rock out its been a pain but it is coming along pretty good i cut the bank back more to get about 4 1/2 foot becuase ones the walls up i want have much room back there to get a round i would have went further but a tree is there so i left about 2 foot of dirt in front of the tree so it want go boom on my carport and truck lol anyways after the rock is gone i will start on the other side get that dirt gone then put up the wall and get concrete. i have been taking pix as i go here they are.
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okay i know this is getting boring but it has to be done lol my cousin come up and brought his hammer drill it worked pretty good but still would not get the big rocks out so i got a sledge hammer and wedge and air hammer and started working on it and i have been getting some big chucks out i am going to finsh this right side and work my way to the left this is what he got done
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here is what i have got done
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WOW! How much wieght have you lost? LOL. That is quite an undertaking!
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not any lol i only weigh 130 so i would hope that i dont lose it
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Wait. I dont understand whats going on
Are you burying your carport in dirt, or making concrete walls for the tin roof or whats the plan here?
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lol no i am not burying my carport i am trying to get the rock out so i can put up a retaining wall to get rid of the water and dirt off of the bank and i am going to pour a concrete floor then close the carport in
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ok last week i started working on moving dirt to uncover the rest of the rock and i got it done, so no more moving dirt for now but this week i am going to get the rest of this rock out so i will be done with this side and i can start the wall i have been piling dirt so i can back fill the retaining wall
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Geez, i've never seen so much work go into a carport before. lol
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you are right about that one man it is alot of work
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could someone figure how many bags it would take to do my 18x21 carport i know a truck would be easyer but this might be cheaper
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could someone figure how many bags it would take to do my 18x21 carport i know a truck would be easyer but this might be cheaper
thanks
That depends on how thick you want it ..
5 inches thick you will need around 265 bags (80 pound bags)X3 thats like 800 dollars
4 inches thick you will need around 210 bags (80 pound bags)X3 thats like 630 dollars
That is alot of mixing it would more than likely be cheaper to get 10 yds of premix (in Md its 85 for 10 yds 50 deliver =135)
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It would be 4 inches, hmm 210 bags if i got a truck i could pour it and finish it myself so that would save some money.
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It would be 4 inches, hmm 210 bags if i got a truck i could pour it and finish it myself so that would save some money.
Check the prices in your area it might be cheaper to have pre mix delivered the bags will be more money
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what is half of 21ft?
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what is half of 21ft?
10.5 ft. Is this for the floor? If you were to pour it all at once, you will need to score the surface so that the slab will crack uniformly. And it will crack due to drying shrinkage initially and then from expansions and contraction due to thermal changes. So if you want to do this in steps, 1/8, 1/4, or 1/2 at a time that will be fine as long as you tie the adjoining slabs together somehow to prevent vertical movement, either with a key-way formed into the side or with slip-fitting steel pins. It's a lot more formwork this way, but you can re-use forms if you are careful when you strip them after the initial curing period.
Theoretically, you can pour the footings for your retaining walls at the same time as the floor so long as you make the footings are the correct depth and form a keyway in the top of the footing and leave the tie-in rebar exposed. Ideally the footing should be poured in one shot, but at the very least pour it in 3 steps with each side being continuous.
Lots of possibilities with concrete, and get it delivered unless you have LOTS of help. Mixing that many bags is quite the undertaking. Provided he can get clearance around the carport, the driver can place that stuff for you eliminating a lot of back breaking work, which you have already done enough of.
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yea this is for my 18x21 going to be garage floor lol but yea i would like to do the biggest i can do in steps 1/4 a square maybe or do half and half of the of the whole thing so i only have to rent the truck twice but it might crack that way
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Just for giggles, check around for guys that just do flatwork, for the cost it might be worth it to have them to slam it in. If the formwork is done, the mesh is in, and all they have to do is pour, screed, and float, might be worth the few extra $. Saves on your back also!
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ok to do just a section for a 9x10.5 for a truck it would be $241.09 that is from SCM i would have to get the truck to come back 4 times so i guess the best thing to do is find someone cheaper like you said or get bags and it would take 48 of them to make the 9x10.5.
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yea this is for my 18x21 going to be garage floor lol but yea i would like to do the biggest i can do in steps 1/4 a square maybe or do half and half of the of the whole thing so i only have to rent the truck twice but it might crack that way
It will crack anyway (most likely). Scoring the surface (or saw cutting it about 1" down after the fact) will help control where it cracks. For your size slab, I would score at down the middle at a minimum, but scoring it across the middle in the opposite direction would be better still. When I had the house built, I think the crew scored my basement floor into 6 pieces, and that's roughly a 24x36 slab, making each section 12 x 12. After 6 years not one crack anywhere else in the floor.
Some tips on curing concrete:
Once you've put a finish on the surface, mist it with a garden hose and cover it with a tarp. Concrete doesn't dry, it hydrates. So keep it damp, especially in the first 1-3 days. If you can watch it for 7 days, that's even better. Go back every couple of hours and mist it, especially if it's hot. After day 1, mist it in the morning and evening. Just generally keep it damp and cool (between 60 and 85 degrees).
Also watch the weather. Concrete cures a lot slower as the temperature drops, and will all but stop curing at temps below 40 degrees ambient unless you heat it artificially. In cold weather, concrete suppliers make redi-mix with hot mix water (150+ degrees) and a cold-weather set-accelerating admixture to give the concrete a high-early strength. With hot temps, concrete cures faster but you run the risk of it drying out if it doesn't have enough water to support the hydration reaction, and you run the risk of it shrinking too fast and cracking.
I would still lean towards delivery if you can as it's a thousand time easier. Call them back and see if you can speak with a salesman. Give them a sob story and maybe they'll knock a few bucks off, or waive the delivery charge. Business is business, and they would rather have yours than lose it to someone else. It's worth a try. Up here in mass they're getting close to $100 a yard for concrete, but even at that price, and with a $50 delivery charge, and including some extra (always order more than the measurements call for), I could get enough for your floor for $650 on site (at 4" thick you'll need 4.66 cubic yards, so I would order 6 yards). If you're short on cash, see if your parents can float you some dough so that you can get this done before winter. Just a thought.
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Bags are an awful lot of work. Your pour isn't that big. L*W*H/27, unless I figured wrong (been known to happen ::)) even at 6" thick your only looking at 7 yards. (1 truck). If you have some good friends (hopefully that have done this) and some beer, it can be done. It's been a few years since I've done any concrete work, so my reasoning might be a little outdated.
Talk with a local concrete guy, see what they recommend. Float finish, they should be done in a couple hours. Power trowel, they'll probably leave 1 guy behind to do it. Curing, they do make "curing compounds" that can be sprayed on when the finishing is done, or you can "wet" cure like smitty mentioned.
Control joints, can be either floated in or saw cut when the concrete is still green. They won't keep it from cracking, just try to control where. IIRC, I think we used to shoot for 10x10 squares for control joints.
Realistically, it can't be that much for doing this. Around here there are a bunch of garage slabs in that have been waiting for a garage, some for 20 years!
If your even thinking about going larger, do it now. A few extra feet for parking or storage might help you down the road. I don't think I've ever heard "gee I wish this garage/carport was smaller". (OK, maybe once, but he was 80 and all he did was park a Buick in there ;D)
Even though I'm renting this place, I considered a 20x20 slab just to work off of. Unfortunately too many under ground springs to deal with.
Most of my concrete experience was the form work, commercial/industrial. Residential might be a whole nother animal.
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ok well it was better then i thought it would be for them to bring the truck to me and for me to pour it and finish it would cost $555 not bad last year when i called it was $800 so i think i just need to put cash back ok now i think i am going to use rebar and could i just use a 2x4 to finish it?
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ok well it was better then i thought it would be for them to bring the truck to me and for me to pour it and finish it would cost $555 not bad last year when i called it was $800 so i think i just need to put cash back ok now i think i am going to use rebar and could i just use a 2x4 to finish it?
How many yards sounds like 7 yds at 80 bucks that is not bad at all
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It is $100 a yard and what i have read it would have taken 4 yards but to be on the safe side i am using 5 yards
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If you've got the rebar, use it. For that thin a slab, welded wire mesh is commonly used (6"x6" squares). We used to use cement brick to keep it in the middle of the slab (or you can use a hook to pull it up as you go)
You could use a 2x4 for a finish (screed finish), personal preference for me was to at least put a "bull float" to it. (bull float, picture a 3' wide trowel with screw in handles for extra reach)
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i have some mesh i could use but i dont know could i rent the tools to do this?
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You can rent most anything. Finish is up to you, what would you like?
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well i would at least like to use a 2x4 and use a float and that should do it
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ok it has been a while, but I have been thinking about my carport and as soon as I get the trucks and get a retaining wall up and a floor, I am going to close the sides in, then the front and back but for the cheapest I can come up with for a retaining wall is land scaping timbers lol. For the floor I am going to get some pea gravel and some tar and seal it up that way. I am also going attach a 10x10 building to the side of the carport for my tools and such.
I also have a question, I am going to close the front in, but with a garage door, but since I want both trucks I want to put two doors up so the question is, would I have a enough room for two doors if my carport is an 18 x 21?
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Hey dude - nice work 8)
You guys are real lucky- your carport is as big as my house!!
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Thanks yea it is nice to have but i find myself needing bigger lol
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Man, you have the pimpest "engine hoist" I've ever seen! Beautiful woods too.
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Yea it worked for a while there is nothing like 4x4s lol
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Ok well it has been awhile but i have got alot done and remember i am doing this all mostly by myself and by hand so bare with me. lol So far i have got mostly all the rock out of the back just need to get a jack hammer for the rest and that part will be done right now i am working on the banks cutting them down, I got the brite idea to make room for a shed beside the carport so i can put my tools in there and get them out of the way sence i am going to have two trucks. anyway i thought i would update a little and show some pics
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OK I know it has been a while since I updated. The last time I updated I was finshing up and then getting ready for the retaing wall but I started thinking about having a bigger shop and that brings me to why I am doing this, when I had the 78 that was the only vehicle I had up here. Since I got my Pontiac up here, I am running out of room, so I started digging out the bank and making more room so I can put the Pontiac there. It does not stop there, I am also doing this so I can put a 30x26 or a 30x30 shop there and like a 10x12 tools and parts building and this 18x21 is just not enough for me and my car and truck or my future projects. Plus all my tools that I have and plan to get. Also I am doing this for muscle because I am a skinny guy lol and because I have RA and its good exercise…
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