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General Site Info => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lt.Del on December 21, 2008, 10:15:25 pm
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I just pulled up the weather channel website to check temp for tonight, 21 degrees, pretty cold, switched over from heat pump to oil furnace, anyway, as I was saying, on the weather channel website there is a poll on there where you can answer true or false; question is:
A slight amount of frost on the road can cause a car to lose control. True or False.
Of course, being the inteligent being I am (think so anyway), I answered the question correctly. The answer is False. Ice, frost, snow, rain, gravel, whatever does not CAUSE a car to lose control, THE DRIVER DOES. A car parked on the road on frost will not lose control. Right?
93% answered True to that question. That is what is wrong with America, it can't have anyone to blame, there are no bad drivers out there, just bad road conditions.
I have a question, true or false, if a little frost is on the road, do ALL cars lose control? So every car out there on the roads will wreck? No! Then why does frost CAUSE cars to lose control....it doesn't, it is the drivers.
I love it when watching the news and there is a 30 car pile up, the news person says it was CAUSED by the fog or by the rain. NO idiot, not all cars on the road in the fog or rain wrecked! It was caused by drivers not driving according to the situation. Idiots. Meanwhile my auto insurance goes up because people have the blame taken off them, it was the rain or ice that caused the wreck, not the driver.
sorry, I feel better now.
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I feel the same way about several other things as well. Guns dont kill people, people using guns incorrectly, kills people. Dont take my guns, they have never shot anyone.
Another thing, is I am a motorcycle rider, and have been for many years. I have never layed my bike over, and have had many people pull out in front of me. I watch for them because I now they dont watch for me. I guess you can say I practice self preservation. I know many people who have had wrecks on bikes, and have lost a few friends. Only one was what I call un controllable. A deer ran out in front of him. He saw the deer, slowed down to about 25mph, and it ran into him. He was ok, just shook up. The rest were because people pulled out in front of them, or they were driving too fast for the conditions, or drunk. I dont buy the "pull out in front of me" excuse. If you are watching those around you, then you can be pretty much aware to what they are going to do. The old fable of laying the bike down to help stop doesnt make sense either. If metal to asphalt was the best brakes, then why do we run on rubber tires. Ever seen a train stop quickly??? Thats metal to metal. I got into an arguement with a co-worker one day about the lay it down theory. A guy had gotten killed when someone pulled out in front of hium, he layed it down, and lost his life when he slid into the car. We went out and looked at the marks where the foot peg had dug into the pavement. I took my bike, and got up to speed, and the second I saw the peg indention, I hit my brakes. I stopped in half the distance that the peg drug and it still hit the car. Ihave a big bike (1800 Honda VTX) and stopped in half the distance at 55 mph. I dont want to say that accidents dont happen, but most of what I see could have been prevented.
I also believe in helmets. I dont believe they should be forced to wear them, but I believe in them. I have seen them save a life too many times. We lost a young kid (17 years old) that had one of the organ donor bikes (crotch rockets) that decided to show off for his friend by driving hi speed around a corner. He hit a sign at 120+mph. Removed his left leg at the hip, and busted his head. He was pronounced dead at the scene, but the medical examiner ( a good frien of mine) said the autopsy revealed he was still conscious for about 20 minutes after the wreck.
Sorry to be so long, but I am getting tired of seeing our youth getting killed because mom and dad want to buy them motorcycles, and not give them proper training, or even make sure they are mature enough to handle it. A 16 year old doesnt need a bike that is capable of 120 + MPH. Plus, I am sick of motorcycles being looked at as the reason people get killed. Motorcycles arent dangerous, an idiot on one is. Once again, sorry to be so long, Im just getting sick of councilling young kids because of parents ignorance, or our youths carelessness. It gets hard trying to explain to young kids why the guy they had fun with last saturday, wont be here today. I have chased these careless youth down, and broke the key off in their bikes, and given themmy name so their parents can contact me to see why I did it. They always call furious, but always hangup thankful..
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People need to learn how to drive or stay off the roads when it snows. It's so annoying watching someone ride their brakes all the way down a hill. Downshift you twit! Jeesh is that so hard to do? Move the shift lever into (2)! I've seen at least 50 good wrecks in the past 2 days. It took me an hour and 10 minutes to get home from a 20 minute drive.
Don't even get me started on people and motorcycles. Helmet laws are for people who like to hit motorcyclists and cry about their insurance rates going up. Helmets should be mandatory for 18-23 year olds only.
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Along with learning to drive in bad weather. My 16 year old just went through driving school a big waste of $375.00 not for teaching him to drive but the instructor was an idiot. My wife and I agree just because he is 16 I don't think he will be driving til spring unless it nice weather the instructor told me I was wrong he needs to drive in all conditions well that I agree but I think he needs more experience in good weather and with others around him until you through him out in the conditions first I think he needs to learn what a car does and reacts in normal weather. I don't know if that makes much sense I just think first you walk then you learn to skate so to speak I just didn't like the instructor saying that in front of my son I think his mother and I are capable of deciding when it is ok for him to drive. Not some instructor that don't know her butt from a hole in the ground. Sorry good topic and along with riding a motorcycle I sold mine a couple months ago. Trust me it was sad but I have 5 kids a wife and we have our own business I've never had an accident with it not even a close call that I can remeber I was always careful watching for others and road conditions but I just got to feeling that one wrong move on my part or someone else's could ruin alot my wife always rode with me and if she or I had ever gotten hurt or worse it would be terrible for the kids so its gone but I will get another someday.
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I don't see a helmet as being any different than having to wear your seat belt. It should be mandatory no matter what.
Try driving a tractor trailer for a living. Some of the crazy stunts people in cars and motorcycles will do just to get in front of you ???
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Thing is, whether we're talking about motorcycles and helmet laws, cars and driving conditions, boats and boating laws, guns, and gun laws or whatever, it's all going to boil back down to three basic elements - age, maturity and experience. No one of these ever guarantees the other. There are plenty of teenagers out there who are mature beyond their years, plenty of immature middle aged folks running around, and plenty of both without the benefit of experience. As brilliant as mankind has demonstrated the capacity to be, it has also demonstrated a similar capacity for genuine boneheadedness. Trying to construct a system of laws which try to account for all of these things, without suppressing our fundamental sense of freedom as well as infringing upon our basic constitutional rights, has got to be an unbelievably daunting task, and will likely remain a system as flawed as Man, himself.
Having said that, can someone explain to me why so many stores have the sign "These Doors to Remain Unlocked During Business Hours" on the front doors? I'm thinking, well D-uh! Of course they're unlocked! How can they do any business during business hours if the doors are locked?
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Ha ha ha ha!
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How about the push in the clutch to start a newer vehicle? Or have to step on the brake to shift one out of park. Safety features supposed to prevent children from driving or rolling away in a vehicle. HELLO, How about the ignorant parents teach their kids not to touch stuff, or play in a vehicle! How about the automatic locks in newer rigs. What happens if you get in a wreck, your unconscious, a good Samaritan wants to help you out, BUT the doors are locked, hhmmm good thinking engineer!
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Having said that, can someone explain to me why so many stores have the sign "These Doors to Remain Unlocked During Business Hours" on the front doors? I'm thinking, well D-uh! Of course they're unlocked! How can they do any business during business hours if the doors are locked?
If it is a MARKED exit door they are required to remain unlocked while the building is occupied. That means all MARKED doors.
It is required by the International Building code and the NFPA 101 Life safety code.
It is required because of NUMEROUS large "lose of life fires" ie.... new york Triangle shirt waste fire, Iroquois Theater Fire, Beverly Hills supper Club Fire, Cocoanut Grove Fire Boston etc etc....
This is a compromise of allowing thumb latch lock mechanisms on door that should have panic hardware. There is plenty of history on this one.
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How about the push in the clutch to start a newer vehicle? Or have to step on the brake to shift one out of park. Safety features supposed to prevent children from driving or rolling away in a vehicle. HELLO, How about the ignorant parents teach their kids not to touch stuff, or play in a vehicle! How about the automatic locks in newer rigs. What happens if you get in a wreck, your unconscious, a good Samaritan wants to help you out, BUT the doors are locked, hhmmm good thinking engineer!
When I was a kid, both me and my sister knew that if we were in the car, we were to be in our seats. The only time we moved out of our seats was to get out. Of course, the only time out punishment we had in those days was when dad took time out to whip our butts for not doing as we were told, and we were only told once. I still believe in that time out method. The automatic locks drive me nuts, I have them turned off in my sub, but dont know how to turn them off in the 08. I dont think I can
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Safety features supposed to prevent children from driving or rolling away in a vehicle. HELLO, How about the ignorant parents teach their kids not to touch stuff, or play in a vehicle!
I believe each of us survived just fine without car baby seats, riding in back of a moving pickup, not wearing seat belts, and no dang safety switches that drive a sane person insane. I hate having to press brake pedal prior to putting car in gear. Heck, I dont know how my cousins, neighbors and I survived growing up riding bikes the way we did and having BB gun battles without shooting anyone's eye out--came close a few times, but no one is blind. We all survived just fine.
You know, there is much to be said about survival of the fittest---those who are dumb won't survive to adulthood to pass on their subpar genetic undesirable contribution to society. Well, that is the way it was supposed to be, but in today's society, anyone can survive. I love those Darwin Awards books telling how stupid people actually died doing less-than-smart acts.
We don't need a nanny-state answer to all so-called problems. If one is dumb enough, they simply weren't meant to contribute to the next generation. The human race thanks you.
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SgtDel, that last line is hilarious, true,but hilarious
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How about the push in the clutch to start a newer vehicle? Or have to step on the brake to shift one out of park. Safety features supposed to prevent children from driving or rolling away in a vehicle. HELLO, How about the ignorant parents teach their kids not to touch stuff, or play in a vehicle! How about the automatic locks in newer rigs. What happens if you get in a wreck, your unconscious, a good Samaritan wants to help you out, BUT the doors are locked, hhmmm good thinking engineer!
When I was a kid, both me and my sister knew that if we were in the car, we were to be in our seats. The only time we moved out of our seats was to get out. Of course, the only time out punishment we had in those days was when dad took time out to whip our butts for not doing as we were told, and we were only told once. I still believe in that time out method. The automatic locks drive me nuts, I have them turned off in my sub, but dont know how to turn them off in the 08. I dont think I can
Yep, my parents didn't come with any safety devices installed, they were more dangerous than anything I could have done to myself. LOL. And I thank them for it.
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Having said that, can someone explain to me why so many stores have the sign "These Doors to Remain Unlocked During Business Hours" on the front doors? I'm thinking, well D-uh! Of course they're unlocked! How can they do any business during business hours if the doors are locked?
If it is a MARKED exit door they are required to remain unlocked while the building is occupied. That means all MARKED doors.
It is required by the International Building code and the NFPA 101 Life safety code.
It is required because of NUMEROUS large "lose of life fires" ie.... new york Triangle shirt waste fire, Iroquois Theater Fire, Beverly Hills supper Club Fire, Cocoanut Grove Fire Boston etc etc....
This is a compromise of allowing thumb latch lock mechanisms on door that should have panic hardware. There is plenty of history on this one.
Thanks, Jeff.
Actually, I always assumed it was a building/fire code requirement, though I wasn't familiar with the history that brought about its creation. Just always thought it was kind of interesting that all 500 shops in an outlet mall, all with identical glass doors and panic hardware would have this on them. Makes one admittedly conjure images of crazed, sale-happy women storming the Corningware or the Dress Barn Woman trying to get in rather than people trying to get out. No disrespect intended.
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My grandfather was at Cocoanut Grove when that fire happened, he was one of the lucky ones to survive.
How about contents inside are hot! No kidding, I ordered hot coffee, I would expect that it would be hot! Obviously these are there due to some money grubbing mouth breather that sued for there coffee being to hot!
Yeah the thought of the whooping I would get if I missbehaved from my mother or father was enough to keep me pretty much in line when I was a kid too! I was scared for my life from my father. That was a good thing because it kept me in check until at least 15 / 16 ish.
It does all boil down to stupid people should not be allowed to breed. Eventually the world would become a smarter place!!!
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Thanks, Jeff.
Actually, I always assumed it was a building/fire code requirement, though I wasn't familiar with the history that brought about its creation. Just always thought it was kind of interesting that all 500 shops in an outlet mall, all with identical glass doors and panic hardware would have this on them. Makes one admittedly conjure images of crazed, sale-happy women storming the Corningware or the Dress Barn Woman trying to get in rather than people trying to get out. No disrespect intended.
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The sign is not required with panic hardware, only with thumb latch hardware.
No disrespect taken - All's good ;D
We had to study all the large fires of the US when I was in college.
Harold, did your grandfather ever talk about it?
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Ya know when it comes to kids listening to thier parents we have people bring kids in my office they let them run all over and get in to whatever and they don't even say anything to them. My office in Cincinnati the front door leads right to a busy parking lot and I had to jump from behind my desk to grab the kid of someone not paying attention when a little one pushes the door and heads right for the lot. I just want to slap the crap out of the mother for not watching. Like Blazin, my dad didn't have to say anything if he looked at you, you knew your butt was had. So you just didn't do it. Heck when it comes to riding bikes we would leave early in the morning and not come home til dark with no helmets or knee pads, shoot we would build ramps with whatever we could find. Never even had cell phones so mom couldn't call or anything she just knew we would come home when we got hungry.
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Ya know when it comes to kids listening to thier parents we have people bring kids in my office they let them run all over and get in to whatever and they don't even say anything to them. My office in Cincinnati the front door leads right to a busy parking lot and I had to jump from behind my desk to grab the kid of someone not paying attention when a little one pushes the door and heads right for the lot. I just want to slap the crap out of the mother for not watching. Like Blazin, my dad didn't have to say anything if he looked at you, you knew your butt was had. So you just didn't do it. Heck when it comes to riding bikes we would leave early in the morning and not come home til dark with no helmets or knee pads, shoot we would build ramps with whatever we could find. Never even had cell phones so mom couldn't call or anything she just knew we would come home when we got hungry.
When I was a kid, my sister and I were on our way to dinner or something with our parents, and were acting up in the car as siblings often do. Finally, my dad had enough and sternly informed us that we would each receive a whipping when we got back home that evening. Well, as the evening went on, we all calmed down and had dinner and a nice time, and I figured all was good, and there would be no punishment. So on the way home we asked if we were still going to "get it", and my dad, almost amusedly informed us that, oh yes, there would still be whippings. So my sister and I set about pleading for mercy and whatnot, but of course there would be none. As soon as the car stopped at our house, instinctively we both bolted from it like we were shot out of a gun. My dad laughed his butt off at that. He knew we had to come back sometime (and of course we did, too). So we came back all dread-filled and sniveling, and gave each of us a good spanking, and that was that. I have a big laugh myself now and then whenever I think about it.
Seems like these days people want to parent less and less, and let society and other outside influences do it for them instead. If I had a nickle for every time a child acted up in a restaurant, turning the whole place upside down, while they just ignored it, I'd be a rich man. My parents would put up with that for about two seconds before hauling me off to the restroom to tan my hide. People won't do that anymore either, because there's always some busybody there that thinks that's child abuse. Please. These days, instead of Mom and Dad, it's XBox and PS3. Why discipline at home when it's easier to park them in front of a video game?
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He never talked about to us kids. But my mom said he told them about it a few times.
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We had freezing rain here this morning and on the way home from work, my 01 silverado was all over the place. The road was a solid sheet of ice for 99% of the way home.
My truck was fish tailing pretty bad (front tires were in my lane, back tires in the other) when soem idiot flies up behind me and get this...kicks it in passing gear to get around me. Needlees to say, his insurance company won't be happy because the last I saw, he was sliding across a field.
I was going around 15mph all the way home and had people passing me doing 50 at least. I saw one guy slam on his brakes to make a turn and slid into someones yard tearing it up all the way.
Everyone needs to take a common knowledge course when getting their liscense..it would make the world a safer place.
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I was going around 15mph all the way home and had people passing me doing 50 at least. I saw one guy slam on his brakes to make a turn and slid into someones yard tearing it up all the way.
Precisely my point. Road conditions don't cause wrecks, people do. The conditions didn't cause you to wreck.
Everyone needs to take a common knowledge course when getting their liscense..it would make the world a safer place
Won't do any good. You can take all the classes in the world and people will still choose to get an adrenaline rush.
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As unusual as it is here, we do get snow every so often. If we get a snow dusting, guaranteed there are going to be mutliple wrecks
Years ago, it had snowed about 4 inches over night. Not much compared to what you get up north, but alot here. I had a job in a town about 120 miles away at a hospital, so I had to go. I left pretty early, and made the first tracks for alot of the way. I was driving a 13k pound service truck, so I was cruising along about 20 mph. On one tretch of the road its pretty flat, but about 45 miles between towns, and I had several people fly by me like nothing was wrong, and one of them gave me a dirty look and flipped me off as he went by. I passed everyone of them in the bar ditch before I got to the next town, and the one who flipped me off actually flagged me down to see if I could pull him out. I only had a two wheel drive truck and dont think I could have done much, but I was still a little agrevated about getting flipped off for driving safely, heck I was even on the shoulder of the road. I told him that I couldnt help him, aand he started whining about his boss was going to get mad at him. I told him to think about that the next time he decides to flip someone off. His face went blank as he realized I was the one he filpped off. He stormed off and I drove away. When I came back 4 hours later, he and his truck were still there. I honked and waved as I went by......at 20 mph.
Shoot, we have idiots running into the bridges and off the road when it just rains, which doesnt happen very often either. I learned to drive in the stuff when I was younger because when I just started learning to drive, if we had an ice storm or snow, my dad would take me out and make me learn how to handle the vehicle in a skid or whatever. Of course, we live in the country so no one was around during my learning sessions, and the worse thing was slidding into a bar ditch.
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I learned to drive in the stuff when I was younger because when I just started learning to drive, if we had an ice storm or snow, my dad would take me out and make me learn how to handle the vehicle in a skid or whatever
I enjoy driving in the snow...it is white-knuckled fun and I love it. I go out at night just to drive around in the stuff when I have the road nearly to myself. I purposefully spin the tires, lock up the brakes, whatever, to see what the truck does. I even go a little fast to pursposefully slide and skid. But I do it when no one is around and i have no possibility of property damage. It really is fun and I increase my driving skills that way and learn what the threshold of what my truck can do. I have more confidence later when I have to drive in it, and the law enforcement crown vics we drive at work are all rear wheel drive and the practice really comes in handy and I don't panic when in a slide. Your reflexes actually change from locking up the brakes to steering out of a slide...its pretty cool.
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when it snows up here i do the same thing trying to get stuck in my 86 4x2. just having fun one day i was on a back road and the road was icy, so i just goosed it and over corrected did a 180 and almost came to a stop b4 going into a tax ditch didn't even hurt the truck just lost some gas. got a ride home and was going back out to get a tow truck. cops were there writing down my tags and all i had guns and what not in the truck so after getting stuck in the ditch i crawled out of the passengers side door i locked it behind me. not knowing it but it saved me cause the f.d. showed up and they wanted to get my info so they couldn't, same with the cop he just asked me if i was hurt. didn't even bump my head lol.
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I love going out late at night on the back roads after it has snowed. Its a blast to rip donuts and hang the rear end out loose!
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the other day i think sat we had freezing rain so the roads were good till i found a spot i was in my 79 and it was fun getting those 38's spinning and that posi working
Hey blaze you see that 90 k5 its not a gem but its a k5 only 550 miles away
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Yep. I have to many junks already!!!
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Lot's of snow noobs around town here now, everyone up for Christmas, apparantly. All roads are snow covered, no blacktop in sight anywhere, got behind a girl in a front wheel drive car at three stop signs in a row for three blocks, took about 10 minutes to go those three blocks. She would lay the petal to the metal at every stop sign and spin the tires for what felt like eternity. ugggg.
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I like to get my 90 c1500 kingcab long-bed sideways once in awhile on the backroads, just for practice in case it happens when it shouldn't, it's hilarious, takes up a whole road. ;D Surprisely, it handles really well for only two wheel drive and no weight in the back.
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the more safty equipment they put on our cars. the more safe poeple think they are, and so they tend to become complacent in driving,and forget they are the most inportant safty feature in the car. if everybody drove like they were tied to the front bumper there would be less accedents. i worked for a rental company and some of the safty stikers are hillarious. removing the stikers (which is illeagle, and don't recomend) would result in natual selection.
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the more safty equipment they put on our cars. the more safe poeple think they are, and so they tend to become complacent in driving,and forget they are the most inportant safty feature in the car. if everybody drove like they were tied to the front bumper there would be less accedents.
That's exactly why around here 80% or more of the vehicles I pass in the ditch are 4x4's. I just drive by nice and easy in my 2WD (actually a peg-leg) and all is well :) If it ices I usually put 500 lbs or so of fire wood or something in the back and I've never had a problem, even when I play with it occasionally (when noone else is around).
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That's exactly why around here 80% or more of the vehicles I pass in the ditch are 4x4's.
Bingo!
An extremely high percentage of vehicles that spin out on highways/interstates during inclement weather are 4x4's. They think because they have 4 wheels pushing them along (even though that is normally not the case) that the laws of physics and motion don't apply to them. How strange!? ::)
Sorry to rain on their parade (pardon the pun) but they still have rubber tires, they still are driving on wet pavement, the wet pavement still has a barrier of water on the surface--yes, really, no matter your vehicle, and, the fact remains the rubber is not on the pavement, but, on water or ice--- yes, really. Hard to imagine, huh?
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Some more examples of my rave, a simple google over the internet turned these up, just the first few headlines and story lines of hundreds, the first one coming as I was reading AP News wire on my kindle today. The roads caused and are blamed for wrecks and deaths. In the last one, a snowy day caused dozens of accidents. Wow, put the roads and snowy days on trial! I bet in our liberal colleges of today, those working towards a degree in writing, broadcasting, or English are probably being taught to write this way. Geeze people! Each one of the below headlines should read, "Stupid drivers being blamed on dozens of wrecks". Or, "Idiots who don't slow down during inclement weather blamed for dozens of wrecks." But, no, that wouldn 't be P.C. We've all known politicians "nanny" people who are "less fortunate", but now even the media are the "nannies" today. People need to read the truth! These things make it sound like the drivers have no control and the people are learning it's ok to drive carelessly because the media reports it that the conditions "caused" the wreck.
Dec 25, 2008 ... In Michigan, slick roads were blamed for a head-on crash that killed two women and critically injured a man Thursday near Farwell. ...
Article published Thursday, December 18, 2008
Slick roads across region blamed in car crashes
By DAVID PATCH
BLADE STAFF WRITER
Winter weather, slick roads blamed for dozens of crashes in Genesee County
by David Harris | The Flint Journal
Monday November 17, 2008, 10:00 PM
Four crashes on slick U.P. roads
By NIKKI YOUNK, Staff Writer
POSTED: November 24, 2008
IRON MOUNTAIN - Slippery roads were blamed in four separate one-vehicle crashes in the northern Upper Peninsula over the weekend.
Slick roads Tuesday and Wednesday were blamed for seven deaths in Wisconsin; five in Ohio; four each in Indiana, Kentucky and Missouri; two in Kansas and one apiece in Oklahoma, Iowa, Massachusetts and West Virginia. An avalanche killed two snowmobilers in northern Utah.
GENESEE COUNTY, Michigan -- A snowy day on Monday caused dozens of accidents throughout Genesee County, mostly on the highways.
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That's exactly why around here 80% or more of the vehicles I pass in the ditch are 4x4's.
Bingo!
An extremely high percentage of vehicles that spin out on highways/interstates during inclement weather are 4x4's. They think because they have 4 wheels pushing them along (even though that is normally not the case) that the laws of physics and motion don't apply to them. How strange!? ::)
Sorry to rain on their parade (pardon the pun) but they still have rubber tires, they still are driving on wet pavement, the wet pavement still has a barrier of water on the surface--yes, really, no matter your vehicle, and, the fact remains the rubber is not on the pavement, but, on water or ice--- yes, really. Hard to imagine, huh?
Part of that is due to the drag during a slowdown that the front axle will put on the vehicle when in fourwheel drive, as soon as you let off the gas, the front axle will drag, and cause the rearend to fishtail quite easily if the driver isn't careful.
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That's exactly why around here 80% or more of the vehicles I pass in the ditch are 4x4's.
four wheel drive will help you get going and maintain traction in inclaiment weather, but it dosn't give you the ablity to drive faster.
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1) Doesn't 4X4 mean that all wheels are turning at exactly the same speed and each wheel has the same amount of power going to it? Or at least both front and rear axles are getting exactly the same amount of power? That does not seem too safe on icy roads? 4X4 should only be used if stuck in 2wd mode? NOTE: i know absolutely nothing about 4x4. In fact, Liz Taylor may know more about 4X4 than me. On top of that, she has more money than me.
2) i think what the medium means to say is "accidents were exacerbated by poor weather conditions," or something like that.
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The thing about 4x4's is that they have 4 wheels that can possibly drive the vehicle.The problem in snow and ice is stopping, and all cars have 4 wheels for stopping. You dont normally run off the road trying to go, its the stopping (or lack of ability there of) that gets ya.
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I watched a mouth breather of foreign descent in a 4 wheel drive SUV crash head on into a F150 once. I was following the F150. We were traveling at about 25 MPH as the roads had some snow on them. The slippery slimy type that accumulates after they have put down salt. This moron comes flying around the cornerahead of us and slides right across the road. The guy in the F150 , and I both moved into the break down lane and started braking. This idiot jacks on the brakes, and cuts the wheel. Crashes head on into the F150. I jump out and run up, ask the two guys in the F150 if they were OK. Yeah just shook up. I get to the SUV and the guy comes around the back of it yelling in his native tongue at his wife who is in the passenger seat crying. While he is yelling he is pointing at the rear, then the front, then the rear, then the front wheels all the while screaming gibberish at her waving 4 fingers with his other hand. Mouth breather was pissed because the 4x4 didn't stop him from crashing!
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The thing about 4x4's is that they have 4 wheels that can possibly drive the vehicle.The problem in snow and ice is stopping, and all cars have 4 wheels for stopping. You dont normally run off the road trying to go, its the stopping (or lack of ability there of) that gets ya.
You said it! That is the truth. :D It's the stopping that will get your vehicle sliding, 2WD or 4WD, it doesn't matter. I lived in the Sierras near Lake Tahoe for several years and honed my snow-driving skills in the process. Up there, heavy wet snow is called "Sierra cement". I think its better to drive a stick-shift truck in the snow, so you can just downshift quick and let the engine slow you down. I got to the point where I would rarely touch my brakes.
I was driving into Truckee one day after a snowfall, and this gal went into a spin in her minivan... her minivan did 3 complete revolutions, grazed my truck's front bumper and slid into the ditch. I hopped out to make sure she was OK. She was completely freaked out, asked me if I was ok and if there was any serious damage (nope, just scratched my bumper). And she had no snow chains, of course! ???
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What I meant by 80% if the people I pass have 4x4's is they think they have 4x4 and are invincible and can play with it in the ice and be able to get out of anything. I've driven on ice up north many times and I've never even driven a 4x4 anything and I have no problems because I pay attention and drive as carefully as possible
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When I started this thread, the saying, "gets my goat" just came to me as I was frustrated and irritated about how wrecks were reported, ie: caused. In the back of my mind I was wondering, where did the saying, "gets my goat" come from? I didn't give it much thought.
Then today I sat down this afternoon reading one of my books while sipping tea and listening to Pachelbel's Canon in D. The book I picked up to read is entitled, March Hares and Monkeys' Uncles- Origins of the Words and Phrases We Use Every Day. Not exactly a scholarly piece, but insightful nonetheless. As I was reading the book, I saw something and then thought to myself, "I'll be a monkey's uncle" because out of mere coincidence, the saying "get one's goat" was found on one of the pages. Interested, I sat up to the edge of the chair and began to read.
Apparently, the term comes from the early 20th century horse racing world. Back then, goats were used to kind of calm down the race horses. It seems for some reason, goats had a calming effect on horses. That was the perfect thing for horses prior to a race. Well, it didn't take long for people wanting to make a quick buck at the track to start to steal the goats of certain horses. The horses became irritated and anxious. The thieves would place bets on the horse to lose.
Now, to think people actually stole goats for this reason, doesn't that just get your goat?
Oh, BTW, 'I'll be a Monkey's Uncle' was in there too.
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I imagine that the "Monkey's Uncle" phrase came about during the days of Darwin's "Origin of Man" and the social turmoil that followed. Is this right?
Kind of like the same meaning of "Hmm, strange, but true"
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What about rule of thumb?
It came from when a husband couldnt beat his wife with any stick bigger than his thumb anything smaller was ok :)
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I imagine that the "Monkey's Uncle" phrase came about during the days of Darwin's "Origin of Man" and the social turmoil that followed. Is this right?
Right you are! Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species (1859) caused people to scoff at the idea were are descended from apes. Out of sarcasm the phrase came about and represents anything that is unbelieveable.
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Heres one that got my goat on my way to work.
Needed 10 dollars to get to work stopped at the ATM wouldnt let me take 10 said had to be in increments of 20 ok I am thinking its going to give me a twenty no it gives me two tens
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How about the phrase " pet peeve " that is my bigest pet peeve! ::)
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Talking about pet peeves and ATMs, what really gets me is the Bank of America ATMs used to have it where you had to specify your language before you could enter anything else. I guess a lot of people complained and now it is in all English. But that really bugged me, press 1 for Spanish, press 2 for English, etc..
Give me a freakin break, we are in America!