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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Body, Glass & Paint => Topic started by: treepete on January 01, 2009, 09:38:59 am
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Hey gents I looked around for info on mirrors, and while some was close, nothing matched exactly to my problem.
I have an 83 silverado and it has the smaller sporty mirrors on it. I was looking over the truck and noticed that the mirrors wiggle up and down a bit ( maybe 3/8 inch.)
I thought this would be an easy fix since I had the door panel off.
ANyway, I removed the mirror itself and there is a metal bracket and a piece of rubber under it to protect the paint I would think,.. I removed the bracket and rubber, and there are two plastic rivet things there, that the screws screw into. These two plastic things are stopping my mirror from bolting completely to the door in a flush manner. Can the plastic inserts be eliminated, and replaced with machine screws, nut and washer inside the door, or is that trouble? how can I remedy this flappy mirror? my only other thought would be to modify the rubber gasket thing to fit around the little plastic inserts.
The metal bracket has a slight arch to it as well, should I hammer that straight wile im in there? or is it a non-issue?
Thanks in advance for your replies, Im just looking for a viable solution I can execute myself.
Pete
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Are these what your mirrors are secured to? click here (http://www.prifast.co.uk/jacknut.htm)
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no although I believe the concept is similar. these are white plastic, appear to have that panel fastner vibe to them. like you press them in and then they just stick. like a wall anchor i guess, but like your picture as well..but plastic/.. sorry so vague.
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any other thoughts, maybe?
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Why don't you try popping them out and using jack nuts instead. They work awesome. Jusput them in the hole, install a bolt and they squash. Then remove the bolt and use the same bolt to install the mirror.
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ok, I like the way you think. Can i get something like a jack nut at a regular auto parts store, or is it something that I have to buy online? Im sorry to ask this, but Im all new to this restoration thing.
here is what I got. some hacked panel fastner anchors or something..
(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc347/rccorral/83silverado2.jpg)
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That isn't what is suppose to hold those mirrors on.
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man.
I should have known this by the way the PO had the stereo wired.
great. OK.
so jacknuts.. available anywhere?
waitaminnute, Jack Nuts? Didnt he play Bob Rotater, in Days of Thunder, the movie?
I got nuthin'.
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There's a metal plate that bolts to the inside of the door (right under the vent window track) and has a flat reinforcing plate that the mirror mounting bracket screws to (not the door skin). That's what makes the mirror rigid as the flat plate double-walls the mounting. I can take a picture of one for you if needed so you can find them. It's really the best way of mounting the sport mirrors.....
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yes you can get jack nuts at any decent autoparts store or hardware store. You can also use nuts and bolts.
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I went out an looked today and all my sport mirrors are at Toolmasters garage, so I couldn't get a pic of how the mount, but. Igosplat described it as it should go.
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ok well, right on and thanks for all the replies. Ill take a look today when I go to the hardware store. Im taking that picture VileZambonie sent with me. See if they have something there.
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I have a picture of the factory mounting plate I can email if you would like as I can't get the picture to upload, or if someone can upload the picture I will send it
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Here is the factory mounting hardware for the sport mirrors.
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ok yeah, I have the small metal part, but it has been "arched" somehow from the PO torquing too much or something.
I do NOT have that piece that appears to go inside the door itself. can you tell me a bit about that part or part set>? Im looking at my mag now and I havent found it yet.
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http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=BK&PartNumber=6651059&Description=Jack+Nuts+%26+Well+Nuts
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ok yeah, I have the small metal part, but it has been "arched" somehow from the PO torquing too much or something.
I do NOT have that piece that appears to go inside the door itself. can you tell me a bit about that part or part set>? Im looking at my mag now and I havent found it yet.
First off, look in the bottom of the inside of your doors. You just might find them there (sometimes the inside screw is not installed and when the mirror is removed the support falls down inside, and the person never takes the door panel off to see what the heck fell) I have. Second, Nothing from nothing, mounting the mirrors with even nuts/bolts/washers to just the door panel it will always flex because the door panel is too thin. Any insert put into the door skin will not let the mirror mount flush because the mirror mount is made to be flat to the door skin and by the very nature of inserts there is always an amount above the level of it's application.
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hmm that may explain the slight arch to the outer metal piece. interesting.
Ok thanks for the link to the crush nut/jack nut.
Ill get this mirror back on as best I can.
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The pieces on the back are the door braces. It stabilizes the mirror.
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I was feeling around inside the door, and did not find the piece. Chris, do you sell this/ have one of these laying around for the passenger door?
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I don't have any that aren't in use. You can email crossy and see if he has any.
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Got it, thanks.
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Chris, I cant get Crossys email. I searched members but couldnt find, can youplease advise?
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It is the person I copied you on about the headlight bezels.
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Sorry to bring this thread back, but I DID find the inner door part inside the door. Yesterday I dropped some screws down inside the door and whil lookenig with a light AND a mirror-on-a-stick, I saw the piece lodged under the window bump stop at the bottom of the door. it was stuck in there and took a good deal of wiggling to get it out.
So yeah, your suggestion from 20-odd posts ago was the answer.
so, just wanted to say thanks about that.
Pete