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Title: career diplomas
Post by: hotrod24 on January 17, 2009, 02:05:12 pm
ok i have been thinking that i want more info on body work and engine work ok i would like to get my auto body diploma and my auto mechanics diploma would it be a good idea or not and i would like to make a career out of it now i would be doing it from pennfoster to and it is $900 for both
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: zieg85 on January 17, 2009, 02:21:08 pm
If you have the passion for it, I say go for it.  When I wrenched for living before my present career I didn't like doing it outside of work.  Now I love it as a hobby.  I took a course for home inspection just in case I need to fall back on it should I be let go, you never know in this day and age...
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 17, 2009, 02:36:36 pm
We have a school around here that I was looking at they offer courses in welding, auto mech, and auto body. I think I'm going to take one on welding it's in the evening and its only like $195.00 per course. Then if it goes well I might take more. Like zieg said it never hurts to learn more. So I would say go for it.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: hotrod24 on January 17, 2009, 02:48:10 pm
yea i have the passion for it i love it that is why i want to do this and vile and everybody on here that does it is so cool

here is the links

http://www.pennfoster.edu/autobody/index.html

http://www.pennfoster.edu/autorepair/index.html
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: Blazin on January 17, 2009, 03:01:25 pm
Do it up bud :)
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: zieg85 on January 17, 2009, 03:36:54 pm
I think an excellent opportunity would be in paintless dent repair.  I don't know what they earn but I bet it is a healthy wage.  My company car had a couple of hail dents and a spot on the hood where a limb had fallen and whacked it pretty good, effecting a 6 inch around area if it had to have been fixed the conventional way.  It was an in and out in a day thing but the body shop called around 3 saying the "outside guy" hadn't come yet... not to expect it that day.  Well at 4:30 I got another call saying I could pick it up anytime, it was done.  I think the bill was over $600 that I signed for.  I could not tell where the repairs had been done.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: smitty77 on January 17, 2009, 03:41:51 pm
A little education never hurt anyone.  And as stupid as it sounds, sometimes that "piece of paper" can help you get a job.  Especially in this economy, anything to make you stand out from the other dozen applicants to a job will most surely help.

Money and time well spent, IMHO.  Even if it doesn't pan out as a career, I would suspect you can make some scratch on the side doing bodywork for cash.

Good luck!
Smitty
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: Blazin on January 17, 2009, 03:59:30 pm
I will tell you however that i have worked with a couple guys over the years that went to tech school for auto body. They didn't have a clue when it came to little tricks of the trade, and what to do in a pinch. In other words if it wasn't in the text book they couldn't handle it. While you are doing your schooling get friendly with a shop or two. Let them know you are going to tech school, and would just like to hang around and watch. Plus if they like you and you get good reviews from the teach it might get your foot in the door.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: choptop on January 17, 2009, 05:48:00 pm
I worked in a garage, and also did moble mechanics for a while. I changed to my present job because I no longer enjoyed working on ,y own stuff. Its hard for me to enjoy a hobby when I have to do it for a living. We worked on everything from pintos, to Mercedes, to International trucks, and a few tractors. After working on some of the foreign garbage all day, I had no ambition to work on my own stuff. After what I learned, the you could give me a Mercedes, but Id have it only long enough to sell. I used to love them.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: hotrod24 on January 17, 2009, 06:04:57 pm
well guys you talked me in to it lol but as soon as i get the frame how i want it and buy parts i will start on the body work and by that time i will be doing the course or in the middle of it but since i have not done body work but for here and there it will help me out with this project and i can help out others and even get a good job because there is a shop in town that i would like to work at all they do is tear down cars and trucks and build back up they even told me if i would bring my truck down there they would restore it lol
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: VileZambonie on January 17, 2009, 06:57:33 pm
$900 for both? Just 1 year in my auto program is about $26k
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: hotrod24 on January 17, 2009, 07:50:11 pm
i guess i am doing good on the money part

http://www.pennfoster.edu/autobody/Tuition.html
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: Lt.Del on January 17, 2009, 11:17:08 pm
Hey, if you get a good job later with the diploma, perhaps you can get a computer keyboard with punctuation marks. 
Just joking, go for it!  If you have to turn in papers, don't forget the periods, commas, semicolons, etc,...It'll make it easier to read.  ;)
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: hotrod24 on January 18, 2009, 04:28:38 pm
ok well i ordered more info on the auto body subject and i will go from there
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: choptop on January 18, 2009, 09:44:29 pm
Auto body is a blast. I took it in college and enjoyed it. Im just to picky to make a living at it. It would take too long.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: VileZambonie on January 18, 2009, 10:46:12 pm
Automotive Technology is an awesome field to get into. We are nearing rocket science technology literally and the A techs are averaging $25-$35 bucks an hour plus. Labor rates are going to sky rocket and people are going to get used to paying more for their cars and services than their cable bills soon enough because it is a necessary part of their lives. People have focused on sending their kids to college to become average working citizens and pay dearly for it. High Schools unfortunately all over the US have eliminated so many hands on trade skills from their curriculum that we have a generation of computer friendly dummies that look at technology like the automotive industry as a back yard hack skill yet the automobile is THE most advanced mechanism most everyone uses every day of their lives. Look out world because all of your old school mechanics can't touch new technology and the new generation is clueless leaving thousands of job opportunities for the new wave of rocket (automobile) scientists. You can hold me to this.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: Dragon on January 19, 2009, 12:59:45 am
Very Nicely put Vile 8) 8)   I went through Auto Collision Repair and Refinishing, and Stopped short of getting my ASE Certifications.....  I got tired of being harassed by my Father and Grandfather for wasting my time pursuing a dead-end career(Even though I grew up monkeying on cars and trucks with them).....  Definitely a Great Course to take, but also take others advice with trying apprenticeships with an Oldschool Well Respected Shop(s)....... Careful checking out a newer or sketchy looking shop, as they would be more likely to take advantage of your lack of industry experience, and can land you into trouble.....

Good Luck Dusty! ;)
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: roadrage41 on January 19, 2009, 01:18:22 am
if nothing else get into the welding, a buddy of mine went to UTI in houston for autobody, got a job back home (after school was finished) welding as 90 percent of the autobody shops here are just baaaaaad to work for. they trained him how to run the overhead crane for when the guy that normally ran it called in or whatever, and now he works for another outfit running an overhead crane for about 30 bucks an hour.


after i got my knuckle tattoo's a guy asked me why i would do something that would guarantee id never have a good job. i bring home 8-1300 a week depending on work load, and all my bills are paid  ??? if i ever sit behind a desk there better be a gun in the drawer to put myself out of my misery. dont have to worry about that though cause im jus a dumb ol truck driver.
Title: Re: career diplomas
Post by: Irish_Alley on January 19, 2009, 02:13:35 am
the problems with welding tho
Manganism
Manganism is a disease that causes problems with movement and damages the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system. It is caused by excessive exposure to manganese, a metallic chemical element. Although small amounts of manganese are actually needed by the body, overexposure can lead to the development of Manganism. Manganism causes a loss of motor skills and coordination as well as mental and psychological problems.

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Symptoms
The following symptoms are common with the onset of Parkinson's disease:
The shaking of the hands, arms, legs or feet while resting. It may be more noticeable on one side of the body, and it may affect the hands more than the feet.
Slow movement or a brief, temporary delay in movement
Difficulty in maintaining balance. This sometimes happens while changing positions.
Rigidity or stiffness of the patient's limbs may produce a shuffling gait - the slow, short-stepped walk that may occur during the early stages of this disease.
As Parkinson's disease progresses it often causes the onset of several other symptoms:


Micrographia (small, cramped handwriting).
Constipation.
Dysphsalivaifficulty swallowing)�saliva and food that collects in the mouth or back of the throat may cause choking, coughing, or drooling.
Hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating).
Hypersalivation (excessive salivation).
Hypophonia (soft, whispery voice) Incontinence (loss of bladder and/or bowel control).
Psychosocial: anxiety, depression, isolation.
Seborrhea (scaling, dry skin on the face and scalp).
Bradyphrenia or slow response to questions.
Dementia or loss of intellectual capacity

my dad used to weld along time ago don't know for how long he has Parkinson's, my self have worked at a couple welding shops and the one i sometimes do side job at the boss has Pparkinson'ss now, not to mention the athritise in the hands from the extream heat and rays. that one thing i wont do for a living but everynow and then aint bad in my eyes at least.