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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Engine/Drivetrain => Topic started by: frogman68 on January 17, 2009, 07:21:26 pm
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Got the block back from the machine shop today ;D
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff310/frogman1968/DSCF1184.jpg)
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Dogs think I am nuts :) didnt get much down to it except one coat of paint our heater (which was installed in June) went out and its about as cold inside as it is outside unless your near the pellet stove
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So what are you building? Is that a beagle?
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you are the man doing that in the kitchen lol very nice. what did you have done to it?
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So what are you building? Is that a beagle?
Yeah you want two beagle ?? :)
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you are the man doing that in the kitchen lol very nice. what did you have done to it?
Kitchen/ dining room , I am embarrassed to say I had to watch http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410297/synopsis
But the temps have been in the teens/single digits so my shed was not a option
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Your project manager is cute, block looks good.
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Here is what is going in/on the engine .
pistons and rings (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330291265555&viewitem=)
heads (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360112737579&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:MOTORS:1123http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360112737579&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:MOTORS:1123)
cam (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250342710028&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&viewitem=)
distributor (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190279078181&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&viewitem=)
intake (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370055991118&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&viewitem=)
crank (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=CRI&MfrPartNumber=12320&PartType=529&PTSet=A)
Had the block hot tanked , bored .030 new freeze plugs and cam bearings, had the new pistons pressed on along with new connecting rod bolts
I might be old school but dont think much will get done today Advanced Auto doesnt carry Plastigage (as the kid put it , its not in the kit you dont need it) and NAPA is closed on Sundays. I will retap on the threads though
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Retapping the block brings back nightmares. Be sure your tap is correct. I retapped the headbolt holes ona 350 4bolt main years ago with a Snapon tap that was marked correctly for the bolt holes, but when I tried to bolt the heads on, a couple stripped out on me. After alot of head scratching, agrivation, and heli-coils, I found out my bottom hole tap was labeled wrong. The pitch was different, but it wasnt that hard to tap with. Actually felt normal when I was tapping. Snapon guy said sorry and replaced the tap. Said I should have checked their hi dollar tap with a gauge first. Maybe I should have, but I thought I could truck quality tools.
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Got the bottom end done ;D
Not sure if I did the piston deck check right though. Took a speed square across the bore brought the piston up to it then put the dial indicator onto the piston zero'd it out then brought the piston up. My numbers dont look right .
1 +.097 2 .092 3 .089 4 .094 5 .078 6 .084 7 .086 8 .084
1 2 and 4 are concerning me
I am thinking of doing the clay test just not sure if that is really accurate.
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This will be the Color Scheme.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff310/frogman1968/color.jpg)
Since my son is really building it and I am just guiding him he got to choose the color, he chose his school colors
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Looks good. Our kids school colors are orange and black too
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Looks good. Our kids school colors are orange and black too
Actually thats Red :) I forgot the flash so it probably didnt take right it was dark out and the wife likes 40 watt bulbs..
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Curious as to which machine shop you used?
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Curious as to which machine shop you used?
Long Engine Works
http://www.superpages.com/bp/Elkton-MD/Long-Engine-Works-L0116856761.htm
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Looks good. Your the man to build it in the kitchen, there is no way my wife would let me do that.
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Retapping the block brings back nightmares. Be sure your tap is correct. I retapped the headbolt holes ona 350 4bolt main years ago with a Snapon tap that was marked correctly for the bolt holes, but when I tried to bolt the heads on, a couple stripped out on me. After alot of head scratching, agrivation, and heli-coils, I found out my bottom hole tap was labeled wrong. The pitch was different, but it wasnt that hard to tap with. Actually felt normal when I was tapping. Snapon guy said sorry and replaced the tap. Said I should have checked their hi dollar tap with a gauge first. Maybe I should have, but I thought I could truck quality tools.
You talking about cleaning the threaded holes in the block? :o man! That what they make thread chasers for. Never use a tap other than to MAKE threads.
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Retapping the block brings back nightmares. Be sure your tap is correct. I retapped the headbolt holes ona 350 4bolt main years ago with a Snapon tap that was marked correctly for the bolt holes, but when I tried to bolt the heads on, a couple stripped out on me. After alot of head scratching, agrivation, and heli-coils, I found out my bottom hole tap was labeled wrong. The pitch was different, but it wasnt that hard to tap with. Actually felt normal when I was tapping. Snapon guy said sorry and replaced the tap. Said I should have checked their hi dollar tap with a gauge first. Maybe I should have, but I thought I could truck quality tools.
You talking about cleaning the threaded holes in the block? :o man! That what they make thread chasers for. Never use a tap other than to MAKE threads.
Cant find the exact ones I used but these are close
(http://www.bikernet.com/news/images/PhotoID38562.jpg)
Bottom end is done I ordered the woodruff keys and according to UPS are on the truck for delivery
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Retapping the block brings back nightmares. Be sure your tap is correct. I retapped the headbolt holes ona 350 4bolt main years ago with a Snapon tap that was marked correctly for the bolt holes, but when I tried to bolt the heads on, a couple stripped out on me. After alot of head scratching, agrivation, and heli-coils, I found out my bottom hole tap was labeled wrong. The pitch was different, but it wasnt that hard to tap with. Actually felt normal when I was tapping. Snapon guy said sorry and replaced the tap. Said I should have checked their hi dollar tap with a gauge first. Maybe I should have, but I thought I could truck quality tools.
You talking about cleaning the threaded holes in the block? :o man! That what they make thread chasers for. Never use a tap other than to MAKE threads.
That was many years ago, and a rough learning curve. I have the ones now like frogman posted now. You would think that if it could cut threads, it could just clean them out too. I had done it many times without fail. Probably been alright, but the tap was labeled right but the threads were metric.
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I have part of a set like that, I Buy them as I need them.
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Didnt get much done, degree'd in the cam was going to put the heads on but found one rocker stud was bent so that is in the machine shop for a day or two :(
Since I dont have the heads on I rotated the engine clockwise with the dial indicator on the deck till I got the highest number before going down once I came back on that number I set the degree wheel to 0
I didnt have a solid lifter so I used a old one flipped upside down. I placed the dial indicator on the edge (it was a bear to get the angle just right)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff310/frogman1968/dial.jpg)
I did the degreeing at least 4 times to be sure it was right
After finding the highest point and zeroing the degree wheel and rotating the engine backwards .100 this is what I got at .50 going forward (clockwise) 48 degree's
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff310/frogman1968/back50.jpg)
Going forward past zero than to .50 I got 164 degree's
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff310/frogman1968/fwd50.jpg)
Total is 212 divided that by 2 and got 106 just where it was suppose to be :)
One thing that took forever (since I was trying to use my old memory :) ) was putting the chain on I did it the way I always did the two dots line up on the bottom. Well since I am teaching my son the "correct" way of doing this I pulled the Haynes book out to show him and it shows the cam one should be on top. That had me stumped but after messing with it and a square for about 20 minutes to get it perfect I rotated the engine and the two dots lined up on the bottom. Not sure why Haynes doesnt do it that way it is so much easier.
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My room mate would work on his snowmobile, four wheeler motors etc. in the house if I would let him!
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hey frog you still working on the rebuild? you have not posted in a while so i thought i woulld ask
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hey frog you still working on the rebuild? you have not posted in a while so i thought i woulld ask
Unfortunately I have not worked on any vehicle for a while :(
Had to redo the Kitchen and Living Room so I can get a Garage this year (Wifes Rule :) )
Now that the kitchen and living room are done I have reinjured my shoulder (get the MRI results tomorrow) so I am pretty much one armed now ..
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Dude that stinks! Hope you get good news back.
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Dude that stinks! Hope you get good news back.
Thanks
I am hoping so but it is doubtful if I move it just right it pops out of the socket
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i know how that is i have not worked on my truck all winter and now that spring is here i still cannot work on it because it has to be moved so i am fixing up my car but man i hope your arm gets better
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i know how that is i have not worked on my truck all winter and now that spring is here i still cannot work on it because it has to be moved so i am fixing up my car but man i hope your arm gets better
Thanks again should know more in about 16 hours
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Every thing is now officially on hold :(
Going in next Friday to have my shoulder done
Rotator Cuff Tear and (dont know the name ) a ligament from the top of the shoulder (its what keeps the shoulder in) to many technical words I cant remember
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Dang, hate to hear that I hope everything works out for ya.
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Looks good. Your the man to build it in the kitchen, there is no way my wife would let me do that.
Kitchen? I saw the beagle and thought he was in the doghouse already! :D