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Title: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 09, 2009, 12:23:05 am
i just bought an 85 k5 blazer with a 400sb.  its a mud buggy pretty much.  well anyways someone tried to steal it and messed up the key hole.  how hard is it to just run a push button ignition os something similar on it.  or would it be easier to just put a new one it it.  thanks.  this is my first post here also and im lovin the site guys
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: Irish_Alley on February 09, 2009, 12:28:54 am
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=10736.msg78326#msg78326
theres a couple diffrent ways to go by this read them and you can decide what you wanna do
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: Captkaos on February 09, 2009, 05:00:44 pm
It is pretty simple to wire in a push button setup.  It would just be a wire set from the starter solenoid and power to the button.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on February 09, 2009, 05:06:59 pm
Just changing the ignition cylinder is a piece of cake however you will need two special tools.

A lockplate depresser and a steering wheel puller. Both tools you can rent from autozone or buy them very cheap.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 09, 2009, 07:04:59 pm
what would be easier?  and without a key how can i unlock the steering column.  i gotta tow it home before i can work on it.  thanks for the replies
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on February 09, 2009, 07:37:14 pm
to unlock the column you'll have to pull the wheel or break the lock cylinder.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 10, 2009, 01:03:32 pm
to break it  can i just like hammer i screw drive in there os what.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on February 10, 2009, 03:15:55 pm
Personally I would just fix it to avoid damaging the rack mechanism or any other components.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 10, 2009, 03:23:03 pm
maybe ill just go pick up a whole column out the junk yard
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on February 10, 2009, 03:31:05 pm
That's an option too but make sure it's got the same features and connectors or you'll have to take it apart anyway to swap switches and wiring.

We can walk you through changing the lock cylinder. It's pretty simple. If you want I'll post details step by step.

$12 bucks for a new lock cylinder with keys. I think it's a buck more for a black one

http://www.autozone.com/R,2456389/vehicleId,1146602/initialAction,partProductDetail/store,5152/partType,00190/shopping/partProductDetail.htm

Also here's a quick link
http://www.autozone.com/shopping/repairGuide.htm?pageId=0900c1528004c78b
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 10, 2009, 03:39:58 pm
i think ill just go that route.  id really appreciate if u cuold give me some directions on doin that.  thanks again guys for all the help
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on February 10, 2009, 06:45:14 pm
You can get the lock plate off without the tool if you have a helper.  have one person sit in the seat and press the plate in and the other get the lock ring out.  that's how I been doing it.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on February 10, 2009, 07:48:13 pm
Disconnect the negative battery. Pop your horn cover off, remove the retaining ring and nut etc. Use a steering wheel puller like this (http://www.toolhawker.com/Steering-Wheel-Puller_item_32463.html) to remove the wheel or get aggressive and pull just don't bend the wheel. Depress the lockplate using this (http://www.toolhawker.com/Steering-Wheel-Lock-Plate-Remover-and-Installer_item_31917.html) and use a pick tool to remove the retaining ring. Unscrew the knob for the hazards, remove the turn signal lever and switch. Just pull it up enough to get it out of the way. There are 3 screws and you may have to turn the switch to get at one of them. Take the screw out for the cylinder and slide it out. You may have to fight with it a little as it's designed to come out in the run position. A pick tool may help, you'll see with the new cylinder. Also near the ignition cylinder there is a small clip that slides in for the buzzer. Just slide it straight out. Good luck!
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 10, 2009, 10:03:52 pm
thanks bud.  i appreciate it.  im just gonne go ahead and do that.  it will be better in the long run anyhow.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 14, 2009, 11:04:12 pm
well i got the k5 home today.  i ended up breakin it just to get home.  lol  now it starts wit a screwdriver.loli got a new problem.  my sarter isnt engaging all the way.  it will turn over but then it starts grindin.  could this just be shims?
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on February 15, 2009, 07:59:56 am
Take a look at the teeth on the flexplate. See if any of them are damaged.
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 15, 2009, 02:49:18 pm
thay aint messed up  thats the first thing i checked.  i shimmed it down and it aint bad now  i think i need one more to make it perfect tho
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: Irish_Alley on February 16, 2009, 01:13:45 am
I'm thinking more to the effect of the starter going up since it worked b4 with no problem and now sitting it wants to be stupid almost like the spindle isn't kicking out far enough, not even sure what its called the gear in the starter thats kicked out buy the solenoid
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: 79k10+85k5 on February 16, 2009, 09:34:18 am
should i just try a diff. starter then?
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: Irish_Alley on February 20, 2009, 12:28:02 pm
10-4
Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: VileZambonie on May 29, 2009, 10:22:43 am
thanks for the reply eurolarva so far so good the only thing left is 1black 2 whites 1 purple.    the letters i have left is.. i  and 2m,s     I put black to the one m   both whites to the other m and the purple to i    on back of the switch package it said i =ignition solenoid  m = magneto& ground. s= start  b= battery     I have no tach and no blue wire  a little more help and i think i will have it.
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Title: Re: ignition help
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 30, 2009, 02:06:10 am
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=10150.msg92782#msg92782

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ok for the past few days i have been shoveling mud off the bank all it has done here is RAIN and there is a big mud hole under my truck  so i have been shoveling mud and shoveling and i found a big rock that goes from one end to the other so i am going to drill it out and build a wall out of 6x6s around the carport and that should take care of that then i need to clean up my tools and parts and it is back to the truck and tear down until i can get concrete and close it in i will have pics of the progress
 
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