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Title: cleaned up headers
Post by: chevyboy1983 on March 25, 2009, 09:26:11 pm
putting on a new head gasket and with the headers off I decided to clean them up.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: CruzinHigh on March 25, 2009, 09:30:29 pm
Looks good!

Did you paint them with VHT high temp header paint?   Been wondering if that stuff really works.  I was gonna media blast mine and paint em.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: chevyboy1983 on March 25, 2009, 09:33:42 pm
Looks good!

Did you paint them with VHT high temp header paint?   Been wondering if that stuff really works.  I was gonna media blast mine and paint em.

yep painted them with that tonight I'll Find out when i get the heads put back on and get it started.

Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: VileZambonie on March 25, 2009, 11:01:10 pm
It'll burn off within 60 seconds. Go for a good coating.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: dustystrucktoo on March 26, 2009, 05:32:07 am
Make sure you use new head bolts.  The old ones have already been stretched.  Please do not use the old bolts.
On the header gasket, I used the reusable aluminum and they have yet to have had any problems.  Ususally they tend to leak when it comes to the paper ones.

I myself noticed the loss of coolant in the overflow, and a lot of liquid coming out of the exhaust tips.  I will be needing to change my head gaskets as well. 
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: chevyboy1983 on March 26, 2009, 06:57:30 am
It'll burn off within 60 seconds. Go for a good coating.

I bought the paint that is made for headers the paint the is made for headers.  I have put a good coat on it i am going to put another coat on it tonight b4 i put them back on the truck.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Blazin on March 26, 2009, 11:11:43 pm
The only thing i9 have found that last on headers is sand blast them, and wood stove black polish. The header paint, the hight temp paint, the stove paint doesn't work. it burns off in a matter of minutes, The stove polish last a couple months.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: 76 k10 on October 01, 2010, 07:37:08 am
It'll burn off within 60 seconds. Go for a good coating.
man your a buzz kill lol
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: beastie_3 on October 01, 2010, 10:33:33 am
Ya but look how much time and elbow grease it would have saved.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: VileZambonie on October 01, 2010, 12:48:48 pm
Don't ever waste your time with header paint. High temp coating is the only way to go and if you're breaking in an engine don't use your new headers, use old manifolds or headers or they will discolor.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Swims350 on October 01, 2010, 09:30:53 pm
I've had good luck with header paint working for me and staying on. Only time it ever came off was if it was painted on over old factory paint. I did the manifolds on my 88 and they stayed the same for over a year.

I heard alot of ppl rubbing antiseize on them and it holding up well.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Blazin on October 17, 2010, 06:41:08 am
The anti seize thing might be something. You can't wash that crap off with a wire brush!  ;D
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: bobcooter on October 17, 2010, 04:16:42 pm
Don't ever waste your time with header paint. High temp coating is the only way to go and if you're breaking in an engine don't use your new headers, use old manifolds or headers or they will discolor.
Why is that Vile? I know I repainted my brand new Summit headers (factory job was pretty crummy) with VHT header paint (lookin good) and put them on my newly rebuilt 350 and they did just like you said. The paint literaly lasted a matter of seconds. The smoke was everywhere! When I reinstalled my factory manifolds back on the same engine after 20,000 miles, I painted them with the same VHT flat black paint and they have hung in there for around 5,000 miles and still look good. I thought it was because of the thicker iron on the factory manifolds. What the deal with breaking in an engine?
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Swims350 on October 17, 2010, 04:55:23 pm
usually on break-in the timing aint exactly spot on or the air fuel mix and can cause it to run lean or rich and it usually runs hotter being new and breaking in anyways getting the rings seated and cam broke in and such.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: VileZambonie on October 17, 2010, 05:25:51 pm
Pretty much running the engine at high rpm without the air currents and as mentioned by swims timing off, lean etc with the thinner metal tubes they get so hot so fast they will essentialy destroy any finish.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Swims350 on October 17, 2010, 06:13:51 pm
x2 that's why you don't break it in with ceramic coated headers or some you spent big bucks on to make em look good, it'll ruin them or not look right anymore.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: bobcooter on October 18, 2010, 11:30:59 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: fitz on October 18, 2010, 03:59:29 pm
Any thoughts on using SEM self etching Primer as a header coating?
I know it only comes in 1 color (Grey) but that stuff seems bullet proof.
After the axles in my truck were sandblasted they were sprayed with that stuff.
When I went to install them I had to tweak 1 of the shock mounts so I heated it up with a map gas torch before tapping it into place it. The primer did not burn off. 
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Swims350 on October 18, 2010, 05:20:56 pm
I would think nit would just burn off. the vht stuff claims uyp to 1400-1500 degrees, and it burns off.

I had it work on my manifolds too, maybe it's a header thing for vht to not work on.
Title: Re: cleaned up headers
Post by: Jim Rockford on December 31, 2010, 08:35:20 am
Unless you can blast em, Wipe em down with wax and grease remover, ad then paint em, with VHT, then stick em in a oven (not the one your wife or mom uses..) or a BBQ grill and bake em and slowly cure the paint,  its not gonna last. Also the paint that comes on headers, Is not ment to stay on , Its only to keep em from rusting until you buy em.
http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/exhaust-articles/472399-coating-headers-high-temp-ceramic-paint.html