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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => 4 Wheel Drives => Topic started by: Irish_Alley on June 01, 2009, 05:55:45 am
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i have a set of 12/16.5 alum. rims sitting not sure if it was just my driving habits or what but my 38/16/16 super swamper's tsl didn't hold up well being driven on the road. my question is I'm looking for a set or tires for alum rims to drive mainly on the road my Buddy of mine had a set of ground hawgs that seam to hold up allot better. i will be doing some towing not much but if its needed for broke down cars and would still like to just kick it in four wheels and get a little dirty. I'm thinking about these tires (http://www.offroadunlimited.com/orustore/PC/catalog/trxusats.jpg) but i don't know anything about them anyone tried them? i had some problems with the swamper's also like getting stuck in the snow real easyjust a little incline and i would have to kick it in 4 wheels
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i had a few tires in the last few years that wore real good, bfg all terrains i got 50,000 miles out of a 315/75/16..then sold em still 1/4 tread, procomp extreme allterrain 30,000 0ut of a 37/13/16, these were on my 03 2500hd and a set of bfg mudds that ive had for about 6 years and drive the truck every day(84 m1008). the new set i just put on my hd are the new km2s (37/12.5/17 on h2s) which are expensive but they are quiet and are great so far. my ssrs didnt last long (on my 83 shortbed) at all and i had a set of truxus sts that sucked and i sold em shortly after i bought em... procomps arent my favorite but they have a warranty and back it up, a buddy had allterrains and they wore badly and were replaced for new ones...
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Ditto what Flat Black said...
Pretty much all the Mud-only tires (MTRs, XTerrains, Yokos, and Swampers - nomatter which variety you choose, TSLs, Radials, Boggers) wear poorly when driven on the street. This is mostly because the rubber is a softer compound and there is physically less surface area (due to the large tread gaps). IMO the only decent mud tire that can be driven on the street is the BFG MT and MT-KM and MT-KM2.
If you want a tire that does well on the street and you can get some mileage out of them, stick to ATs (BFGs are my favorites, but Goodyear, Bridgestone, ProComp all make good ATs).
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i second what everyone has said so far. my last bfg a/t's lasted over 50k miles and were still in good shape when i sold the truck. i had yokohoma geolander m/t that lasted 35K mile, which i thought was good.
the nitto dune grapplers you have pictured would wear probably as fast as the swampers did. i have heard (tho not experienced) that they are great in the sand, but in other terrains (rock, snow, mud) they are not all that great.
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Irish I am currently running those tires on my 2005 dodge 1500 AWD pickup and I love them. They make a little bit of hum going down the road but around bad, my truck isnt heavy I dont know the application you will use them on but I'll put it to you this way I run them on the road because its my daily driver I am at almost 20k miles on those tires they arent choppy at all I have rotated them once and if I had to give it a judge on tread left I would confidently say 75% left. And I have gone off roading with them a few times they are decent not very good because they are made for sand and snow and I tell you I will put these on my plow truck they are awesome in the snow. I am very pleased with them. I believe mine are 31s on 17 inch rims, my buddy has a set on his jeep he is running 33s on 15s and his are much more beat up cause he goes offroading a lot more than I do. He likes them very much to. Good luck with your tire selection. You know my recomendation
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I run the BFG All terrain AT's on my 16.5X12 rims they were on the truck when I bought it and they seem to serve me very well. Some people think that they are not good in the mud or off road but mine seem to love it. Haven't gotten stuck and I have put the truck through some serious stuff latly.
Ofcourse as a Bridgestone/Firestone Employee I would recomend the Bridgestone/Firestone Dauler AT the new tread design is awsome looking for the AT and they have a great warrenty. Think they are a 60k mile tire if you rotate them properly.
I plan on buying the Bridgestone/Firestone Dualer MT for my next set of tires I know several guys that run them daily and they seem totaly happy with the tires. Although I've heard that you cannot get any type of warrenty with a MT tire. One of my buddy's told me to buy them as the p305/65r 16 or what ever you tires size is so that you get a millage warrenty. As the 33/12.5R 16's wont come with a warrenty because its concidered a off raod tire. Not sure on that but that is what I have heard.
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now these tires are uses on hummers for the military good deal?
Goodyear Wrangler MT
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That seems like an OK deal. Typically you can buy those at the surplus auctions, though, and pay less than that.
Also, I would have the guy send you a pic of the DOT number so you can check the age of the tire. A lot of used Army tires get pulled because of their age, so these may be old and ready to dry-rot.
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OK , I usually don't read every word on the longer posts, but did I read that you have and will put 16's on 16.5 rims? that is not recomended. In fact, industry standards are trying to phase out 16.5's altogether.
I would not recomend buying 16.5 rims if one is in the market. And I really don't recomend putting a smaller tire on a larger wheel. They make 16.5 tires for a reason, though you are seeing less of them as each day passes.
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OK , I usually don't read every word on the longer posts, but did I read that you have and will put 16's on 16.5 rims? that is not recomended. In fact, industry standards are trying to phase out 16.5's altogether.
I would not recommend buying 16.5 rims if one is in the market. And I really don't recommend putting a smaller tire on a larger wheel. They make 16.5 tires for a reason, though you are seeing less of them as each day passes.
LOL YOU SILLY i would never do that but i have two diffrent sets of rims a aluminum 16.5x12s i think and black steel ones 16x16 need tires for both sets so I'm looking at two diffrent sets of tires. want i want to do is put the mudding/off road but still able to drive a little but on the road ties on the black then put all terrains on the aluminum
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interco STS IMO is then AT tire...
alot of sled puller run these as a "spec" tire because they do so well..
they DO NOT LAST on the street.. 20-30k tops especailly on then 3/4 ton trucks
the STS dont do to well in mud either.. and it takes ALOT of power to spin them as well.
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Ground Hawgs wear like iron. Decent in mud and hard pack....crap on ice. Good for load ratings as well. Avail in bias or radial.
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on my 16x16 steel rims I'm going with the hawgs and on my 12.5x16.5 I'm going with the Humvee take offs
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Let us know how you like each and what you are using each for....keep us up to date.
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I ran a couple sets of AT tires in the winter on a 2wd truck and was not impressed at all, however, my 2wd shortbed that now has a set of cooper discoverer stt's, can and will drag a 4wd 5.2l magnum dakota running wild country AT's through the mud without working all that hard. The irony was, these discoverers came off the owner of that truck's wife's durango, they both hated them because they felt they rode rough, but I've seen quite the contrary.
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Every one has a different opinion on tires I off road alot and dont' even consider all terrain tires. To me a good year MTR or BFG mud is more of an all terrain tire A swamper (like the orginal TSL bogger SSR Sx etc) pit bull or really aggressive tire is a mud tire. I have personally got 40,000 miles out of a set of 38" radial swampers. They were balanced and I rotated them every 5000 miles. I also checked inflation with every fill up.
I know people who say I only got xx miles out of xx tire. Well how many times did you rotate, check your pressure, how many times did you re balance them? Is your truck in good shape lifted etc. etc. etc. How long a tires lasts and knowing all that will give you a better idea of how long a tire will last you
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I also checked inflation with every fill up.
Something was seriously wrong if you had to check the air at every fill up!
A tire should only lose 1 psi per month max, unless it has a hole in it or a leaking bead.
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I also checked inflation with every fill up.
Something was seriously wrong if you had to check the air at every fill up!
A tire should only lose 1 psi per month max, unless it has a hole in it or a leaking bead.
didnt fill them i checked them. Plus I wheel my truck alot so if all that was available was quarter air station that would not fill my tires up checking them often made sure I had them at the right pressure all the time. I also checked the oil every time I filled up
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One of my friends has those STS's in the 39" flavor....they arn't going to do much in the mud and they are loud on the road, but ride smooth
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Well finally got the Humvee tires mounted and on. Looks kind of weird only being 12" wide when I have had 16 or 14s on but anyway love love them in the snow most time don't need 4x4 even threw the drifts. Handle better on the road that a gimme they hold 50 Pei cold here are some picks
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Got up my Generals the other day. Got 2 mounted and need to get the other 2 done.
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Picked up a nail the other day so my tire was slack so I drove it to the back of the prison only once I got there the bead popped so I had to take it to a tire shop. Which was cool cause I needed to fix the flat anyway so took it to a shop told them what I needed done and I just laughed at them while they were trying to pump it up. They used one of those quick air release tanks it failed they used a strap that failed so they went back to the quick release tank only to fail again. So after watching them I told them you have to use starting fluid cause the tires are hard and its cold so that makes them harder. So they tried the quick release again then they opened the garage door threw the tire in the state truck and came in said they can't to it and they don't use starting fluid. But while they were in the shop I noticed a can of fluid sitting on the tire changer. So took it to another shop they listened to me but they used it to catch the tire on fire. First thing they did was change the valve stim cool they looked like they knew what they were doing. So after they finally got her seated they round the leak they tried to pull it out only to fail so they popped the bead. Then they patched the hole and after failing again took them a good bit of time they found another hole the first hole wasn't leaking but they fixed both holes. After a couple hours I finally got the tire pumped up they only charged 25 for all the trouble and I just got home about a hour ago now I have bowling so ill be up for 24hr come 600 pm. What a wonderful day
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Too seat a bead, First step is remove the valve core.
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I had to de-burr (sp?) my wheels. That can cause a mystery leak.