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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Body, Glass & Paint => Topic started by: malibu795 on October 12, 2009, 07:10:30 pm
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said i would post some pic up of what need to get fixed sheet metal wise on my truck.. in this threas http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=13544.0 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=13544.0)
so heres the pictures..
what would you recommend getting started first... the spring hanger IMO is on the top of the list.
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Is this a daily driver, or can it sit while you fix sections? (hopefully it can sit)
I think I would start by pulling the bed. Why, it will give you room to work. You said the spring mount is at the top of your list. I see rot on the rear of the frame, with the bed off you can do a more thorough inspection. You may have more spots that rust,grease, whatever may be covering.
Scratch what I said about pulling the bed. Do a real thorough inspection of the frame, If there is more rot that you haven't found yet, I might consider pulling the pin on the project. My cab was as bad if not worse than yours, but the frame and running gear were all good. (on my cab the rot took the floor supports also, but it didn't go as far back on the seat hump as yours)
What is your skill level? I'm sure your cab can be fixed, but it's up to you how much you want to sink into it. Your front cab mounts appear ok, I see the Capt's 5 piece kit and the inner cab corner, I'd prob do 1 side at a time. Expect to find more the deeper you dig (I found a couple smaller holes under the seat) http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5661.0 (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5661.0) This link is listed with the 5 piece kit, I also have it bookmarked. Helped me out a ton.
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under seat looks like new.
outer rocker panels have been replace once.. the rear lower mounting point on the front fender is not there on either side... cab corners have been replaced as well.. it seams that way when you get the dirt off.
frame wise those 3 spots are the only spots that are bad on the frame.. everything else is surface rust. some of the bed frame bracing is startgin to go though. and rather clean.. there is alot of grease/oil on the front part of the frame..
sections.. yeah i could do something... its going to be a DD with in 3-4 weeks... i want to get parts list made. and a game plan adn general idea on what is what...
truck is being DD this winter up herre in SW PA told the place gets alot of ice..
my 02 dmax is 2wd and my 79 malibu wagon is my other option.... dont want to drive cause body panels are 10x harder to find then a square body stuff.
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On mine I tell everybody I replaced the bottom of the cab.
PO on mine had already screwed down some floor pans and had replacement front fenders. If i were in you shoes, (replacement cab could be a possibility) I'd patch it up for winter, and plan on doing it right in the spring. I see the 5 pc kit (per side) and inner/outer cab corners. (I couldn't see a good way to do the inner cab corners without cutting off the outers.) On mine the PO had replacement outer rockers and cab corners, they got used for patches on other holes (iirc the old outer rockers I used for patching the bottom edge of the seat hump)
I do have a few old pics when mine was being done, though the link I posted up and a search will turn up a ton of info.
One thing I did have was time, (being able to weld didn't hurt either) if you take your time, you'll be satisfied. Mine is nowhere near "show" quality, I was only going for solid. I do have errors, some of the fits aren't what they could be, but chunks aren't falling off when I hit a bump, and I learned for the next time.
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You're not so bad off.
Does anybody know where I could get a new cab? I've been thinking hard about piecing this thing back together but the more i look at it the more i'm thinking a new cab would be cheaper and less work.
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so had to do some patching to make thigns work again.
went playing... now i need soem better idea to fix my cab
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any ideas?
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You pretty much need every replacement part you can buy for the cab. Floor pans, floor supports, cab supports, inner and outer rockers, outer floor extensions, footwells, inner and outer cab corners. Or look for a better cab and swap it.
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just priced
cab floor support brace L+R= 110.00
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cab floor support x2 = 33.00
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full outer rocker pannel L+R=44.00
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cab floor outer section L+R=60.00
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that 250.00 plus shipping...
hmm also thing about making the stuff out of some 1/8 flat steel and 16ga sheet metal
how wuld you go about this.. truck is a part time DD right now.. and somethign that can be done on a weekend..
thinking get the floor support braces and supports get those in there and the old floor boards tacted to them. that will give me alot of my structure back..
start with the drive side sincce its the worse then pass side............
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Cab parts for these trucks are very inexpensive. Its not too hard to install these parts either. I'd say it would take more time to find a new semi-rust free cab and swap it out then it would to weld in the new parts.
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i just got quoted ~3k for labor and primer to fix the cab and hang new fenders, doors with me settin him up with a mainly labor job.
with the new job of trucking i def dont have the time or the place to do it.
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iareanthony where are you located ?
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looks like on top of the inner rockers, floor supports, and hanger you need some bed cross sills, raybuck has them or make your own, door skins lower or half skins, and if you need inners they have em too on here, fenders, maybe inner fenders, and maybe outer rockers? or just buy one of chris' 5 piece cab repair kit. Geat one for each side.
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The 5 piece kit will have the Rocker Panel, Rocker Backing Plate, Cab Corner, whole flooring (extended option), and OEM Style Cab Floor Support then add the brace and the seat side and you got all 24 pieces for just $50 more.
This is from my store.
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old panels removed.. got the new one in there still need to raise the cab another .5" to get the floor to line up with rocker panel
heres a nice poser shot too.. the mound is ~5' high and truck is still 2wd havent bought a new on yet.
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shock/suspension 24" shock at full extention.. need longer shocks :(
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got some skin on as well and front driveshaft from tom woods driveshaft
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nice project! my 87 has over 450k on it, but is only a little worse than yours.
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i put hydroboost in the truck. with a 1 5/16" dia MC.
simply put. I DONT KNOW WHY I WAITED SOOOOOO LOOOONG TO DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
got less then 130.00 in the conversion. there is now no planing to stop its stops NOW and i can lock the tires up is i choose too.
havent gotten much else done. got a straight hood on it now though.
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Cool, making progress!
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At least you are keeping at it, just keep adding pieces until you get them all.
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started today out getting metal to stiffen the frame.. 6" x1.5"x 3/16 flat stock cut.
go to lunch rear end goes out... >:(
got all but 1 bearing and crush cleave.. cousing had a spool that he didnt need so it replace the G80 locker. use the bearing on it old races and cleaned the junk out of the pinion bearing. R&P dont show any signs of damage same with bearings the cages on the pinion outer/inner bearings have taken a beetting... though was able to get 95% of the junk out them.. put the old stuff back in with spool.. getting ahold of randys R&P for the stuff i dont have.
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That sucks, glad to hear it didn't grenade your rear end.
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went from holding ~3qt to ~6-7qts of gear oil too... that carrier takes up alot of volume
need to fin thtat axle year too sine 10.5 14b arent stock on a 75 3/4t pickup
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got the rear end rebuilt with a spool..
finally got enough time and parts stagged to get 64" (2500HD rear)springs put in the bacn and the rear frame horns rebuilt.. only shot i took while slaving away
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progress is always a good thing...keep it up man
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Those 64" springs ride soooo much better then the stock 52 and they are heavier to 5200 vs 6000lb
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test fitted some 35x1250/17 on the truck
got the srping loaded bumper back on, picked up some 2x2x.250 24' square tubing to make new cross members
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going to make one to replace the oem rear cab mounts, front mount on the rear springs and replace the cross member out back
also got leg work done one my 4l80/241 converson with DS drop.
i currently have a PS drop 60 that is basicly new. talked to dynatrack out my options
1 mine converted 900 plus shafts if need 200-300 for new axles
2 ford axle bj/kp are least 700-900 from the junk yard plus rebuild cost 500-1000 bucks in parts
3 have dynatrac build a bare housing at 1700 plus reverse cut gear
4 buy a pro 60 out right.... it aint goign to happen.