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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Performance => Topic started by: str8bloc on October 16, 2009, 09:47:51 pm

Title: performance mod?
Post by: str8bloc on October 16, 2009, 09:47:51 pm
i have my 83 chevy longbed with the 86 350 accel plugs/coil msd cap/rotor 600 edelbrock and a holley street dominatior intake plugs are .45 i have r45ts plugs set at .50 should i put those back in and look for a holley carb? the intake is a dual plane high rise breaths alot better that the old cast intake
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: team39763 on October 19, 2009, 10:25:41 am
Do you already have headers and a good air filter?
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Captkaos on October 19, 2009, 04:05:31 pm
I really am not sure what you are asking here.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Jim Rockford on October 21, 2009, 07:44:31 am
Do not buy a holley. If you can get a good rebuilt Qjet from a quality rebuilder. and a set of headers .
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: str8bloc on October 21, 2009, 05:24:14 pm
well with the .50 i was sputterin on the top end but i think that was cause my electric choke is hooked up because my .45 is doin the same thing i have 305 manifolds waitin on headers and cherrybomb extreme mufflers i have a k&n air filter should i use my accel .45 plugs or my acdelco r45ts .50 thats my ? im goin to hook up the electric choke to a 12 volt like the manual told me 2 i used the factory choke
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: malibu795 on October 31, 2009, 10:47:11 pm
what do you have for an ignition coil and what is compression?

whats the wires you using?

i cna runn no ground strap on a 8-8.5:1 motor and have no problem..

my 9.5:1 383 i run .080  gap and no problems

i have a msd bock, blaster ss coil and MSD super conductor wires

wires.. help alot.. oem run ~30-50k ohm per foot or lenght...  MSD SC is less then 50 ohms per foot..

sputtering at the top end? what is the condition of you fuel pump?  stock 30gph is tasked by there already IMO
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: VileZambonie on November 01, 2009, 06:52:41 am
.45 = four hundred fifty thousandths of an inch. You mean .045" And I really can't follow what you're getting at either. Perhaps if you rephrase your question and what your problem is we can offer better suggestions  ???
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: SUX2BU99 on November 18, 2009, 02:05:35 pm
I think what he's asking is what plug to use and what to gap them at. I think.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Lt.Del on November 20, 2009, 12:28:59 pm
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i have a k&n air filter should i use my accel .45 plugs or my acdelco r45ts .50 thats my ?

should i use.......hmmm, should i use.......

I know!  Punctuation!

thats tough to read it takes us about three times longer to read something lacking punctuation just for it to make sense to us because most learned punctuation in second grade so we should use what we were taught it would benefit those who want to read and help when we we can't understand it we can't help i tend to tune out on things like this and ignore it i chose not to ignore this one this time i would like everyone to use periods and commas and question marks and capital letters at the beginning of a sentence  i know a lot of people get very used to this type of thing because more people text all the time however there should be a law against texting because people lose their ability to write correctly because short cuts are always used because it takes less time because kids don't want to get busted for texting in class so they have to be quick or worse they text while driving and between crashes they try to type fast before they get close to another car but they get another text and have to type while near another car anyway
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: eisenhauer01 on November 20, 2009, 03:51:29 pm
Wow, nice punctuation yourself there now Sgt. That last post made no sense and pertained to nothing in this thread. You have nothing better to do with your time? lol
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: VileZambonie on November 20, 2009, 05:53:04 pm
Wow, nice punctuation yourself there now Sgt. That last post made no sense and pertained to nothing in this thread. You have nothing better to do with your time? lol

He was obviously joking around... I lol'd
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: eisenhauer01 on November 20, 2009, 05:54:08 pm
yea i mean i thought it was kind of funny too but i just thought it was a little overboard too lol
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: str8bloc on November 20, 2009, 09:40:57 pm
SUX2BU99 yes u figured it out. i was asking which plugs to use to petain to me sputterin on the top end. but comes to find out it was my choke setting. so prob is fixed, can u get performance by taking some of the electrode off a guy told me this
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: velojym on November 20, 2009, 09:44:22 pm
Wow, nice punctuation yourself there now Sgt. That last post made no sense and pertained to nothing in this thread. You have nothing better to do with your time? lol

I think that was kinda the point.  :P
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Lt.Del on November 20, 2009, 10:21:17 pm
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yea i mean i thought it was kind of funny too but i just thought it was a little overboard too lol

must be a texter.

lol, sorry, I do get carried away sometimes when I try to make a point.  My wife seldomly understands my dry humor, so I am used to it. I just don't let that disuade me.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: str8bloc on November 21, 2009, 06:14:00 am
mid-texter here, i dont u grammer not good in english just american cause in anerica we talk american. lmao but since yall use grammer and stuff, i can use it to
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: VileZambonie on November 21, 2009, 06:38:45 am
str8bloc where are you from? It's hard to understand posts that aren't punctuated etc because you can't really understand what people are saying or asking.

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mid-texter here, i dont u grammer not good in english just american cause in anerica we talk american. lmao but since yall use grammer and stuff, i can use it to

What's a mid texter? Grammar not grammer. just american cause in anerica we talk american? In the US we speak English. Just hit spell check at least and try to use punctuation.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Gearhead1 on November 21, 2009, 08:41:58 am
ha ha Sgt, thats something I would have done. I'm not into the texting gig...am I getting old??
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Jim Rockford on December 11, 2009, 06:06:14 am
Cutting half the electrode off it for hard core performance engines, you will see NO gains on a stock engine, just get the stock plugs and gaps em .045 and hook up your electric choke.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: malibu795 on December 11, 2009, 10:32:18 am
Cutting half the electrode off it for hard core performance engines, you will see NO gains on a stock engine, just get the stock plugs and gaps em .045 and hook up your electric choke.


BS.. on one stipulation... if you have the ignition system to fire the increase gap. a hotter spark will alway burn fuel better then a colder spark.

compared to a .060" to full removal of the strap i notice 2mpg pickup  less throttle for given mph, and quicker throttle response.

i just got a fresh 468BBC built currently gettign hte rings to set... 9:1 small cam 208/214* performer 0396 intake and 049 heads and a 750cfm performer carb

im running MSD 6A wiht pro billet distirbutor and a blaster SS coil with AC R43T gaped at .060"

if the school alows me to i will pick up another set same plugs and cut the strap off then re-dyno.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: Jim Rockford on December 12, 2009, 02:45:08 pm
I'm saying  you are not gonna find magical HP with em on a stock engine.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: malibu795 on December 12, 2009, 04:16:44 pm
never said you would..

Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: team39763 on December 12, 2009, 10:19:49 pm
Really?  People cut off the side electrode or the center electrode?  I'm gonna try that.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: malibu795 on December 13, 2009, 07:53:18 am
Really?  People cut off the side electrode or the center electrode?  I'm gonna try that.

it wont work with stock ignition system... its not strong enough to jump the rough.125-.20 " gap from the electrode to the plug wall

also high compression it doesnt really liek i either.. it will blow the spark out... unless you get plug that are made like that.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: choptop on December 13, 2009, 08:45:07 am
As an electronics tech, removing the electrode on the plug doesnt make alot of sense. I do understand how it would work with a higher discharge ignition system, but seems to me its mostly just putting a higher, unneccassary load on the ignition system. General rule of thumb for plug gaps I use is .010 for every 10,000 volts . Notice earlier points ignitions were .030, first HEI .045, and newer systems are .060. The coil voltages with relate as well.  Anymore gap than necassary seems a waste.
Title: Re: performance mod?
Post by: malibu795 on December 13, 2009, 04:40:03 pm
more for learning here..

i run a baster SS coil.. on 2 of my vehicles.
one is a 9.7:1 383 gapped @ .080"
blow 454 was strapless
other is my newly rebuild 468 @ 9:1 gapped at .060(still playing wiht gaps to figure out what works best)
both enigine run MSD super conductors 8.5mm wires with less then 50ohms per foot resistance
heres the specs
http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Street/Strip/8207_-_MSD_Blaster_SS_Coil.aspx
Maximum voltage: 40,000 Volts
Peak current: 300 mA
Spark duration: 220 uS

that replace the baster 3 on both engines that i have been running for 4-5 years
Maximum voltage: 45,000 Volts
Peak current: 140 mA
Spark duration: 350 uS

via your logic as a electronics tech the blasster ss should run a smaller gap then the less potient blaster 3 coil.. even though the SS coild puts out x2 the engery of the blaster 3..

wiht the blaster ss i notice increse mpg and power over the blaster 3.. with out changing the plugs..

yet what you say is exact opposite?!?!?!?!?