73-87chevytrucks.com
73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => 73-87 Chevy & GMC Trucks => Topic started by: fitz on December 01, 2009, 06:47:40 pm
-
Got an 84D30 (single cab/single rear wheel/4x4) at the auction today. The Government just took it out of service on 11/24/09. I'll post pics tomorrow. I'll have to do my homework on this site to see what these trucks are all about.
It's a diesel with 47K miles on it (has the Government paperwork to back it up)
One thing that stuck me as odd is that it has a dana 60 but only a 208 transfer case . I figured it would have a 205 in it. Like I said, I have some homework to do on it.
-
(http://www.naioa.com/v2/modules/Forums/images/smiles/uselesssmileys.gif)
-
Had time to get better look at it today.
It's a 6.2 diesel/turbo 400 - 208/Dana 60 - 14 bolt FF with 4:56's.
I'm still trying to figure out why it has a 208 and not a 205 in it. The 208 looks factory but I did notice that it uses the 205/203 flat style crossmember.
Truck runs strong and goes down the road good. Theres tons of military stuff on it to figure out on it.
-
What did ya pay for it?
-
;) Nice Score !!!!
All CUCV's I've seen run the 208.
-
AFAIK, None of the military truck ran the 205, all of them were 208's
-
$1500
I think it was Dunedigger that mentioned before these are still out there and are showing up at the auctions.
Anybody have any clues as to why these ran the 208's in them?
I'm guessing that the 208 would be easier to replace in the field than a 205, but then again a 205 would probably never break.
Whats killing me is that when I went back that night to pick it up I spotted a military blazer on the site. The auction security did not know if it was one that got auctioned off that day (I didn't see it there earlier, but I could have missed it with 2000 cars) or if was dropped off for a future auction. I'll keep you posted.
-
If you google GSA auctions (Government Surplus Auctions) you will find the info on when Uncle Sam is ready to sell these trucks off.
-
15 thats kool, looks like your be huntin a 205 now
-
15 thats kool, looks like your be huntin a 205 now
I have the turbo 400/205/ and driveshafts from my 87k30 if I decided to go that route.
I'm thinking that if the 208 was good enough for military use it will probably be fine for me.
-
That will be the weakest link 208
-
I am not familiar with the D30 designation. Is that a Military label or?
-
The paperwork from the United States Government in Arlington Va. list it as a D30.
The tag rivited to the door reads M1028.
-
The paperwork from the United States Government in Arlington Va. list it as a D30.
The tag rivited to the door reads M1028.
Did you say 1028 :o
SCORE
SCORE
SCORE
All the M1008 trucks all used open Dana 60 front axles, with many M1028 and M1031 series rigs having a Trac-Lok limited slip diff up front. In the rear, the M1008s (and 1028s) used the GM 10.5-inch (270 mm) 10.5" Corporate 14 Bolt Differential with No-Spin lockers (the commercial trade name for the Detroit Locker). Axle ratios were 4.56:1, though the M1028A2 and A3 duallies are reputed to have had Dana 70 axles equipped with 4.88:1 gears
In the rock crawing circle your front axle would bring close to your total investment.
-
Was this a GSA online auction?
Sight unseen?
-
Whitfield- Are these lockers you mention the Gov locks that people curse about or are those only used in the light duty trucks?
I've been playing around with chevy's for a long time but this is my first military truck, lots to learn about it.
Anyone have any clues as to why it would have a 208 in it (like I mentioned, it appears to be stock)
-
Most likely it was a weight / efficency issue.
OR GM got a heck of a deal on the 208's.
Your rear locker is a Detroit ~ The real McCoy
Front limited slip is a good one too. The 1028 trucks bring a premium.
I've been researching shopping CUCV's for the last 5 years and they run about 3500 in drivable shape. The 1028's in similar conditon usually start around 4500 and go up quick with some exceeding 6k.
I'm am no authority on these military trucks just a shift worker with time a computer and lots of interst.
-
Was this a GSA online auction?
Sight unseen?
No, this is where it gets confusing.
I have a used car license ( please note that I'm not trying use this form to sell this truck, I'm going to keep it for awhile) . The GSA auctions are at the same auction house that I attend. I usually skip the GSA auction because I've never seen anything cool like this there. Typically it's 4 year old Tauruses, Intrepids, Cargo vans and the like.
Another dealer bought this truck and a few other vehicles (non military) at the GSA auction on 11/24/09 and flipped them over the following week at the dealer only auction on 12/1/09. I talked to him after the auction and he said he never took the vehicles off of the auction property. He said he made money on some, lost a few bucks an others, but overall he made a weeks pay without ever touching these vehicles. The paper trail shows he paid $1600 for this one.
The day I bought it I spotted it about 2 minutes before it got auctioned off. Keep in mind there are about 2000 give or take a few cars at the auction. It's a huge building with 13 auction lanes, theres lots going on and it's easy to let something slip bye.
I didn't really have time to check it out too good, like I said, I had about 2 minutes. At the very least I knew it was a running and driving truck. There was no Way to tell if it was even a real military rig or a homemade job. I checked to make sure it had a Dana 60, so it wouldn't be a total loss if the truck was junk and had to be parted out. There was no way to check to see it the mileage was correct until after I bought it and got the Certificate Of Origin from the Government.
I will start going to the GSA auctions now. I mentioned earlier I spotted a military Blazer on the property when I went back to pick up this truck. Not sure whats up with the Blazer, I'll keep you posted.
-
That thing will be nothing but trouble for you.
I feel so bad for you that I am willing to give you your money back for it. ;D
Seriously, I am looking to buy a CUCV at some point in near/far future.
Good luck with yours. Enjoy it. :)
-
That thing will be nothing but trouble for you.
Good luck with yours. Enjoy it. :)
To be honest I have mixed feelings on the 6.2's. I really don't know much about them. Just starting to read up on them. When I went to the auction Tuesday morning buying an old diesel truck was the last thing on my mind.
I will start checking out the inventory prior to the auction day for any upcoming GSA auctions and keep you guys posted. I don't know if this truck was a one time deal or if there are more comming.
The GSA auctions are open to the public. I know logistically it might be tough for some of you to attend but the prices seem right.
-
Their is a strong 6.2L / 6.5L following.
I once watched a 1990 diesel Blazer on 35's bark second gear and pull off like a built small block.
A performance fuel pump installed by a GM diesel performance guy makes a big difference.
I was in the market for one when I ran across my 88 Crew cab 4wd for $1k ~ My Crew cab was a dead beat up work truck cut up for 44" tires stock, with trashed 350 cid and rod hanging out the motor.
I still want one ~ But any more vehicles and I'm gonna need your license.
-
I still want one ~ But any more vehicles and I'm gonna need your license.
I hear ya, Since I got the license I just can't pass up these old trucks at the auction. I'll just park this one next to the others.
-
I'd like to know if there is a locker in the rear, I bet its a GOV-Lock. Is there a opition sticker in the glove box?
-
I'll take that bet ;) No Gov lock in the m-series CUCV trucks All of them got the No Spin which is gm's fancy name for their Detroit Locker. As I understand it is STANDARD on the CUCV military pickups / NOT blazers.
Here is a post from roundedline ~ from the 4wd section...
I think you are confusing M1009 with M1008 possibly.
M1008's came with 1T axles D60 in front, 14bolt rear with no-spin diff. They were pickup trucks.
M1009's had 1/2T axles, Corporate 10bolts fr/rr and Gov-locs. These were Blazers.
I found you some sites with some more info too...
<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.olive-drab.com/">www.olive-drab.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->
<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.steelsoldiers.com">www.steelsoldiers.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p><a href="mailto:captkaos@charter.net?SUBJECT=Forums 73-87 trucks">Chris Lucas</a>
<a href="http://www.73-87chevytrucks.com" target="_new">www.73-87chevytrucks.com</a>
<a href="http://www.captkaoscustoms.com" target="_new">www.captkaoscustoms.com</a>
<a href="http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/enginemock1.jpg" target="_new">Project Su</a>
<a href="http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/Jimmy/jimmywash.jpg" target="_new">Jimmy 2WD Project</a></p><i></i>
-
I'd like to know if there is a locker in the rear, I bet its a GOV-Lock. Is there a opition sticker in the glove box?
No sticker in the glovebox.
-
I went back to the auction today and the Military blazer was gone, oh well.
They did have an 86 M1008 with 44K on it. It Needed a few things like Batteries (they had to jump start it), broken grill, missind glovebox. etc. I bid $1300 on it and it ended up selling for $1700.
I think a lot of small dealers bought these at the GSA auction thinking that they struck gold and would make a killing. Now they realize that in this economy nobody wants them, they are trying to bail out of them.
I remember a few years ago when people were paying almost that amount for the Dana 60's alone.
These seem like strong trucks for the money.
-
Just thought I would add on this that the 208 used in these trucks is said to be a heavier duty version that is unsycronized. Meaning you can't shift on the fly. I have a spare out of my 1028 that I will dig into sometime soon to see what the real difference is.