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Title: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 05:27:17 pm
Bought it for $200 and shipped 80 miles for free =) Guy told be its a 1988 (vin1GTDC14N4GF) What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 05:28:13 pm
What trans is this btw?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 16, 2010, 05:39:52 pm
Good deal! I'm not exactly sure which tranny's in it so I won't steer you wrong.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 05:43:48 pm
Do you know where the casting number for the block is by chance? Right now the heads are off it.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 16, 2010, 05:49:55 pm
On the block behind where the drivers side head would be. You'll see a ledge where the bellhousing bolts to. Clean the top of that off and you'll see the digits. Usually around 7 or 8 digits. I have a binder with numbers if you need reference. If it's a crate motor it may read "GM 5.7" or "GM 5.0.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 06:10:50 pm
It reads: GM 5.0L then a "G" I believe. Cant make out the G real good but I think thats what it is.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 06:27:45 pm
This is a crate motor you say?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 06:38:44 pm
Was looking around with these numbers and on www.nastyz28.com I got this(which doesn't make sense) :

V0910CHC

V=Flint
0910=Sep 10th
CHC=Suffix Code= 1975,76,80 350ci 210hp corvette motor.

But it says on the block GM 5.0L. Can anyone help me ID my motor, very confused now lol

Just found another site that says the same but also has a 307ci 115hp for the suffix CHC
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 16, 2010, 07:30:46 pm
Some of the numbers I have printed out are from that same website. Another good site is mortec.com.

When I got my 85 Sierra, the guy told that the motor was replaced with a crate. When I checked the castings, it read GM 5.0(305cid). I sort of assumed that all crate motors carried that similar casting. When I pulled the motor out of my k30 a couple of days ago, it read GM 5.7(350cid). I automatically assumed it was a crate. Maybe someone will chime in with a little more insite to these castings. I wonder if the later years(mid to late 80's) came with these castings from factory. It still wouldn't explain your findings though.

Where did you find V0910CHC? Was it on the engine boss in front of where the passenger side head was?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 07:33:57 pm
What is the engine boss?

It was on the front of the motor on passenger side where head is yes.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 16, 2010, 07:49:39 pm
I call it a boss. It's that milled ledge where suffix codes are sometimes stamped behind the alternator.

Ok, according  to Mortec.com, our castings may not necessarily be crate motors. There should be a date code on the back near the casting or on the other side(passenger) of where the bellhousing bolts to.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 08:05:49 pm
I'll look tomorrow and post any findings, thanks for your help man
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 16, 2010, 08:20:20 pm
Hey, no problem.

CHC=

Yr      CID      Trans                             VIN      hp      Carb Body
1973  307cid  turbo hydromatic,Calif NB2            115hp 2bbl  F,B, and X body vehicles
1975  350cid  m/t,h/p                           T L82   205hp 4bbl  Vette
1976  350cid  m/t,h/p                           X L82   210hp 4bbl  Vette
1980  350cid  Auto trans                       L                          Full size

None of these matches your casting. ???

BTW: this info came from nastyz28.com too.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 09:49:11 pm
Casting as in the "GM 5.0LG"? A 307ci is still a 5.0L (5.03083L). I dont know though, hopefully I'd find more info tomorrow
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 16, 2010, 10:02:35 pm
CHC 73 307 Nova 115 L-14 TH 350 2-Brl A.I.R.
CHC 73 307 Chevelle 115 L-14 TH 350 2-Brl A.I.R.
CHC 75 350 Corvette 210 L-82 4-spd 4-Brl  
CHC 78 350 Camaro 170 LM-1 TH 350 4-Brl  
CHC 80 350 Impala 190 LM-1 TH 350 4-Brl  
CHC 88 305 Camaro 220 LB-9 700R 4-Brl  


what about the heads? any casting numbers?


Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 16, 2010, 10:05:35 pm
I think it's safe to say it's no an 86 model motor....

B4T 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
B4T 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
B4T 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
C7D 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
C7D 86 305 Pontiac 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl Firebird
C7H 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
C7H 86 305 Pontiac 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl Firebird
D3M 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3N 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3P 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3R 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3S 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3T 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3U 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3W 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D3X 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9 Manual 4-Brl 3/4 & 1 TON
D4A 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
D4A 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
D4A 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
D4B 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
D4B 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
D4B 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
D4C 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
D4C 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
D4K 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
D4K 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
D4W 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
D4W 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
DDA 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
DDA 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
DDC 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDC 86 305 Pontiac 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DDD 86 305 Pontiac 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DDD 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDH 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
DDH 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
DDJ 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDJ 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDJ 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDK 86 305 Marine 165 LG-4  4-Brl Excalibur
DDK 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDK 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDL 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDL 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDL 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDL 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDM 86 305 Chevelle 180 L-69 700R 4-Brl Monte Carlo SS
DDP 86 305 Chevelle 180 L-69 700R 4-Brl Monte Carlo SS
DDS 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
DDS 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
DDT 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
DDT 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
DDU 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDU 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDU 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DDX 86 305 Camaro 190 LB-9 700R TPI 
DDX 86 305 Pontiac 190 LB-9 700R TPI Firebird
DDY 86 305 Pontiac 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DDY 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DFM 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DFM 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DFM 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
DFR 86 305 Camaro 190 L-69 5-Spd 4-Brl 
DFR 86 305 Pontiac 190 L-69 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DFS 86 305 Camaro 190 L-69 5-Spd 4-Brl 
DFS 86 305 Pontiac 190 L-69 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DFT 86 305 Camaro 190 L-69 5-Spd 4-Brl 
DFT 86 305 Pontiac 190 L-69 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DFU 86 305 Pontiac 190 L-69 700R 4-Brl Firebird
DFU 86 305 Camaro 190 L-69 5-Spd 4-Brl 
T9U 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
T9U 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
T9U 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
T9W 86 305 Impala 150 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
T9W 86 305 Camaro 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
T9W 86 305 Chevelle 165 LG-4 700R 4-Brl 
U5A 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9  4-Brl C-20 & C-30
U5C 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9  4-Brl C-20 & C-30
U5F 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9  4-Brl C-20 & C-30
U5H 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9  4-Brl C-20 & C-30
UBL 86 305 Truck 145 LF-3  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFA 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFB 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFC 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFD 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFF 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFH 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFJ 86 305 Truck 145 LF-3  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFK 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFL 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFM 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFN 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UFP 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UKR 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
ULA 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
ULC 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
ULD 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
ULF 86 305 Truck 150 LE-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UPA 86 350 Truck 165 LS-9  4-Brl C 10 & C 20
UPB 86 350 Truck 160 LT-9  4-Brl C-20 & C-30
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 16, 2010, 10:15:14 pm
I would say not ha. I'll look at heads tomorrow. Guy told me that it was a 305 corvette motor, but that doesn't appear to be true. How can I tell if it is a 305 or 307? Not sure if this matters but I measured the bore with a tape measure and it looks to be pretty close to 3.75"
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 09:31:37 am
you need to pull the casting number off the back of the block, on the bellhousing area close to the 5.0lg thing. I beleive it's an 80ish block and to my knowledge 307's stopped in like the 70's. You should also look at the crank where the flywheel bolts, on the block side, to see if it's a 1 or 2 piece rear main seal, I'm thinking it's a 1 piece which has an aluminum adapter bolted to the block, kinda hard to see with it in the vehicle and such.

As for being from a corvette I call BS, I don't think they'd ever waste time putting a 305 in a vette, but I could be wrong, not sure if they ever had 305 vette's. I think it's the late 80's camaro block I posted in the suffix link first time.

Find the long sequence of numbers on the bellhousing flat and post it.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 17, 2010, 06:45:10 pm
Swims350, the "GM 5.0LG" is the casting number. From what I've read, this kind of casting signifies a later year block. It just doesn't match the suffix codes(which can be altered).
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 06:50:41 pm
No, there's a casting number back there a series of numbers, I've had 350's and 305's with that 5.0 crap and 5.7 and there's a casting number back there on another flat, not the same flat as the 5.0 there's another one. I have never seen there, NOT be a casting number on the back.

How does it not match the suffix? I posted that an 88 camaro chc suffix had a 305. I'd almost bet money on it being that one.


I have an 88-95 block right now that has 5.7 lg stamped on that spot and has a long casting number on the back of the block next flat(area between bellhousing bolts) up and it's the casting number.

I also had an 86 truck same deal.

yea the 5.x stamped ones are like a later model and why I said I beleive it's an 86 and up block.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 07:05:29 pm
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/alwaysbroke53/100_3410.jpg)
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/alwaysbroke53/100_3409.jpg)

That is the casting number, it's on my 88's 350 and it's on the flat above the 5.0lg mark as you can see and it's on the driver's side, I think looks like it's PS in the pics due to the bolt location. It's between the point of the bellhousing and the bolt that's about 4 inches from it on one side or the other.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 07:28:42 pm
hey 86 I ran your head numbers from the 305 build thread they are from this..

14101081 305 87-94 1.84/1.50 58cc

So that makes me think more again that you have an 88 camaro 305 in your truck. I know they can change heads on a motor, but find the block casting as I posted and show me and I'll find out what it comes up as.

I'd bet it to be one of these...

14102058 305 86-88 140-180 Car & Truck 2-bolt Passenger stick 1-piece seal
14101147 305 86-up  2-bolt Passenger stick one piece seal
14094766 305 86-up  2-bolt Passenger stick one piece seal
14088551 305 86-88 140-180 Car & Truck 2-bolt Passenger stick 1-piece seal
14093627 305 87-88 140-180 Car & Truck 2-bolt Passenger stick 1-piece seal


If you got the intake off of it I can run them numbers or the exhaust manifolds as well, or even the crank.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 17, 2010, 08:15:49 pm
Got all that and took a picture of manifold numbers but I will have to load them and post, deep frying some chicken wings right now but will post soon
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 09:48:59 pm
yea find the number on the back of the block for sure it should help alot.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 17, 2010, 09:52:10 pm
Here is pictures of manifold... Dog ate two nice chicken bones, not good.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 09:56:05 pm
sorry man only found one close, yours ends in 5 and not 3 but here it is..

14057053 305/350 80-88 4-Brl Aluminum Quadrajet

The one on the back of the block is the most important it's a long number like the one on the intake, try to clean it off and find it if you can. That will help tell you the year of the motor.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 17, 2010, 10:01:46 pm
When you say on back of block you dont mean where tranny is right, back around area i found the GM 5.0LG?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 10:17:22 pm
yes sir did you see my picture of my 88 trucks block? that's where it is, it's on the back and near the 5.0 you found it's one flat area or boss or pad above it, either on the driver's side or pass. I forget which but it's there and it's a long number just like the intake.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: beastie_3 on July 17, 2010, 10:19:18 pm
It is on the driver side of the block, behind the head at the firewall. It is right before the transmission. You might have to wipe it off to read the numbers properly.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 17, 2010, 10:20:03 pm
Gotcha, will check it out tomorrow. Thanks again
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 17, 2010, 10:21:55 pm
correct me if I'm wrong but that's exactly where the 5.0lg came from and if so then no it's on over towards the middle or on the pass. side, older blocks where right as mentioned behind the head first flat, newer ones are more in the middle as mine is in the 88.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 17, 2010, 10:30:28 pm
Yes it was at the very end of the drivers side head.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 18, 2010, 09:14:05 am
the casting will be above that, or on the other side and up higher then the 5.0 thing. By higher up I mean closer to the point of the bellhousing.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 18, 2010, 10:52:02 am
Will have info posted later today on it.

Are these heads good for a 305 or 350?

#3998991
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 18, 2010, 01:16:30 pm
3998991 307/350 68-79 1.72/1.50 76cc

wow never seen a set like that, small valves with a big cc size. My 2.02 valved heads are 76cc. I think they are kinda small on the 1.72 valve size but then again they came on 307's and 350's so they'd be ok I'd think at least as far as stock goes. Not sure how the small valve size would effect performance.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 18, 2010, 01:43:15 pm
They are just for sale in my area for $50. Im not going to look for anymore parts for this motor, just put it up for sale and when/if it sells start looking for a 350.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 18, 2010, 04:35:00 pm
Swims, I was only going off of what I read. Now you got me doubting lol. I going out to look at the one that I just pulled.

86, I wouldn't get rid off all that yet. You'll always need it after you get rid of it. It just works that way.lol
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 18, 2010, 04:53:13 pm
Swims, Your right! The other numbers are there. Thanks

86, they should be in the same location just on the passenger side near the center.
In this pic I'm pointing to it with a brush.
(http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww19/oldwhity/SU1HMDAwMzktMjAxMDA3MTgtMTc0Ny5qcGc.jpg)

Right behind/below the distributor.
(http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww19/oldwhity/SU1HMDAwMzgtMjAxMDA3MTgtMTc0Ni5qcGc.jpg)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 18, 2010, 05:08:11 pm
It's ok oldwhity, I knew they were there, but I'm glad you cleared up which side it was driving me nuts. Now I  know it's pass top flat near the peak.

btw oldwhty is awesome, that's what we called the old 76 we had, it holds alot of sentimental value with me and when I read your screenname it brought back memories.

and for posting here's the info I got...

14088548 350 86-88 155-195 2-bolt Truck Passenger stick 1-piece seal
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: oldwhity on July 18, 2010, 05:34:28 pm
Thanks, I have a binder of casting number printed from the web from a few year back. Your info seems to be a little more specific or detailed. Mine showed 1986-94 350. It had dashes for the hp, main caps, and body it came in. I wouldv'e thought it would be a 4bolt main since it was in a k30. Oh well, I'll check it out later.

Oldwhity popped up when I got my k20. I guess it stuck in my head from when my dad had his white 79'. He called it the same thing.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 18, 2010, 06:47:36 pm
every site has different info on casting numbers.

yea same here my old man called the 76 old whitey and now his 84 is the same, it's white and has the same 350 in it lol.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 18, 2010, 10:26:05 pm
Is there a site you prefer for casting numbers? Figure when I start going to junk yards it may be a good idea to make a binder like Oldwhity said he had.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 19, 2010, 09:30:58 am
yes sir, it's the one I been using chevymania.com then you click on parts id
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Jims86tpisub on July 20, 2010, 01:42:57 pm
looks like the trans is a th-350
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 20, 2010, 02:22:17 pm
huh? what about the trans being a th350? you talking about in his or yours? An 86 shouldn't have a th350, I think by 86 and up it was all 700r4's or at least a th350c.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Jims86tpisub on July 20, 2010, 02:31:11 pm
What trans is this btw?
Actually, that looks more like a TH-400 pan. the 700r4 pan is more square, and the up to 86 700r4s had reinforcements stamped into the pan. Also looks like the truck came with a 262 v6 from the factory.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 20, 2010, 04:08:39 pm
LOL I feel dumb, sorry I missed that part of the post yea definately th400 by the pan shape.

what makes ya say 262 v6? did I miss the vin post or another pic with something that gives it away?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Jims86tpisub on July 20, 2010, 04:39:17 pm
The "N" in the vin.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 20, 2010, 05:03:46 pm
aaahhh I missed the vin that's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on July 20, 2010, 05:12:41 pm
1GTDC14N4GF

1 for usa

GT for gmc

D for 5001-6000 gvwr

C for 2wd

1 for 1/2 ton

4 is 2dr cab

N 262 v6

4 check digit

G for 86

F for flint plant


sorry I was bored and like decoding things lol.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 20, 2010, 10:35:36 pm
http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/ Has a Trans ID and TH400 pan matches the mine, thats all I have to go by myself.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Captkaos on July 21, 2010, 06:07:29 pm
We have Trans ID posts also:
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=11124.0
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on July 21, 2010, 08:42:48 pm
Sorry Captkaos I'm just putting up all the wrong links lol
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Captkaos on July 22, 2010, 07:54:12 pm
your fine.  I know Chuck well..
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 02, 2010, 08:52:48 pm
Hey got a guy in my area selling some remanned #14102913 305 SBC heads. Can't find any info on them, anyone know if they are good? He wants $125
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 02, 2010, 09:38:52 pm
sure the numbers aint mixed up and are really these?

14102193 305/350 87-95 1.84/1.50
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 08, 2010, 10:35:42 pm
Hey guys starting tearing down my truck and the rubber mounts between the radiator support and frame rails are trash. What are these called and where can I find some new ones?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 09, 2010, 09:03:51 am
x2 companies who sell the body bushings sometimes have them seperately so you can buy those only, but if you got the cash might as well buy the kit the cab ones are usually falling or already fell out.

Although on the heads, I got bashed by some idiot who didn't understand what I meant when I said some sbc heads are cast for 305's only, he tried to say they were not and any would fit a 350, well no doh they'll fit but as mentioned some have small chambers and sizes are were stock via casting numbers on 305's only. I tried to explain this further by posting the casting numbers that came up to 305's and he's like ohh by that theory you can't even put vortec heads on an older block and all this BS, I'm thinking God just shut up stupid I'm reffering to them havin small chambers and size and those were on 305's and not such a great choice on a 350 except for maybe higher CR, idiot just wouldn't get it through his head.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 09, 2010, 07:06:37 pm
Thought it was a body mount but wasnt sure because its location.

Truck has a 305 in it with no heads, I was thinking of getting it running just to drive but a friend of mine has a rebuilt 350 but its in Ten and I'm in FL, so I dont want to put money into 305 when I can just work on rest of truck until I get motor.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 10, 2010, 04:44:31 pm
yep you are very correct sir, not to mention the 1.84 or even 1.74 valve size I've seen before on the casting numbers break down. The smaller chambers would bump up the compression ratio but if they don't flow good enough it aint gonna help anything really.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 10, 2010, 08:33:41 pm
Yeah I've been using that site alot to identify parts for my truck, seems to be very in dept. With all the areas that I want to work on still trying to figure out where to start lol. Got the front end body parts all apart (hood,fenders,radiator support, ect). Will pull motor/trans and take bed off Thursday and maybe try to slide cab around to clean up and paint frame. Once frame is done think I will order body mounts and remount and begin work on it. Rust prevent paint and maybe try that Lizard Skin. Still working on it though, all depends on budget. Trying to build strong truck and make it last awhile so I dont want to skimp out but I also don't have cash laying around lol.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 12, 2010, 06:23:39 pm
Got some pictures of progress figured I'd post em up

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Front1.jpg)
Got the new door on too

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Front.jpg)

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Front.jpg)
(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Trans.jpg)
Pressure Cleaned the trans, it was pretty nasty

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Rotor1.jpg)
(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Rotor.jpg)
Had a question about this, is this a 4x4 Hub? Truck is not 4x4
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Layne on August 12, 2010, 11:38:38 pm
No, I think thats a wheel adapter for your blazer rims if I think thats what you mean
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: beastie_3 on August 13, 2010, 01:07:54 pm
Id say its more of a spacer than an adapter.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 13, 2010, 08:30:54 pm
I was wore out and done working when I got there, so didn't look to much into it. So the more silver part should slide off and it will look right? That makes sense lol
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 13, 2010, 08:40:38 pm
yea those are wheel spacers since you have gmt400 wheels on it which have ALOT of backspace to them, my guess they put em on and the backspace casued interferance with something like suspension or frame and they bought them instead of just buying wheels that fit. I don't like the wheels on a gmt400 let alone a squarebody. So yes the silver part comes off and it goes back to normal.

I got the same jackstands lol.

First time I ever saw the long tail th400.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 13, 2010, 09:45:23 pm
Yeah the wheels will be gone asap lol. These stands we're pretty cheap and work well, think I got them at Sears. Whats the difference in the TH400 long tail? Obliviously its longer but is there a reason for it?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 13, 2010, 10:05:23 pm
just depend on the application and driveshaft length. I think it's a "truck thing" to have long tails or something most of the stock th350 trucks were/are long tails.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Layne on August 13, 2010, 11:54:11 pm
I thought the s-10 blazer was 5 on 4-3/4? They're 5 on 5?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 14, 2010, 09:58:05 am
s-10's are definately 5x 4-3/4 but those wheels came on 88-98 2wd trucks too which are 5x5.

Hard to say but I'd measure the bolt circle of the wheels and see what they are.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Layne on August 14, 2010, 11:51:45 pm
Ahhh, Ok. :D
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 454ss on August 15, 2010, 01:20:52 am
Those are S10/Blazer 4x4 wheels. They obviously say 4x4. And those are adapters to run said wheels as they're indeed 5x4.75 as opposed to the 5x5 on 2wd fullsize trucks.

 :)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2ez0bwh.jpg)

My Blazer.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on August 15, 2010, 01:05:49 pm
yea they look the same. I couldn't tell what they said on them, but yea s-10's are 4.75 bolt pattern same as gm rear wheel drive cars except for like tri-5's and such that have 5 on 5. You could keep them on there and find car wheels or something for maybe more options on wheels, or take em off and run truck 5on5 wheels.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on August 19, 2010, 08:03:55 pm
How many rattle cans will it take to paint my frame?? Looking to order some of this.

http://www.eastwood.com/the-original-chassis-black-satin-finish-set.html?SRCCODE=1EM0357&utm_content=1EM0357&utm_campaign=08-19+20%25+Off+Eastwood+%27s+Original+Chassis+Black!&utm_source=iPost&utm_medium=email

After reading some more I'm now considering Chassis Saver. I have a spray gun but its tip is for paint, would I be able to spray this or would I need a bigger tip? Also how much would it take to paint frame with spray gun, found a Pint of CS for $35
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Jims86tpisub on August 24, 2010, 12:25:49 am
Some may think I`m crazy, but theres just something about the 8 inch wide stock rally wheels that really does the trick for the squarebodies.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on November 19, 2010, 03:26:19 pm
Got some primer on cab and wanted to post up. Next week the doors and fenders will be done. Then putting in a 350/TH400 in and starting the rewiring process.

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Cab1Before.jpg)
Cab
(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Cab1After.jpg)

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Cab1After.jpg)
Interior
(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Inside2After.jpg)

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Back1Before.jpg)
Back
(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/BackAfter.jpg)

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/Roof1Before.jpg)
Roof
(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/RoofAfter.jpg)

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae263/Lauderdaleballa5/CowlAfter.jpg)
Cowl
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Canadian 4X4 on November 19, 2010, 07:22:10 pm
Looking good!
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on November 22, 2010, 11:03:48 pm
Got everything except bed painted so now I'm trying to figure out what best to spend my money on next.
Truck needs all new wiring, dash pad wasted, brake lines shot, had a 305 and dropping in a 350 that needs carb and distributor, want/need new hardware for body panel install, windshield and all weatherstripping/seals for cab, wheels/tires, tilt steering column, and I'm sure I'm missing more. What you think, install 350/TH400 and rewire to fire, or reseal cab (windshield and all weatherstripping/seals)?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on November 23, 2010, 09:15:48 am
seal cab if it's done being painted, don't want water laying in it.

Then rewire, then motor work, or brake lines first, or even brake lines before rewire, then last wheels and tires,
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Grim 82 on November 23, 2010, 09:36:26 am
Agreed, I'd get the cab sealed up first. The longer something stays apart the less likely you will be to find all the pieces to put it back together.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on November 23, 2010, 11:40:06 am
Thats what I was leaning towards but I always like to get results right away and starting a motor is just what I want. Unfortunately I know thats not best for now lol, I guess I just needed someone else to remind me of that. So I'll be ordering complete cab weatherstripping and door seals and getting that sealed up. Then call Safelite to install new front windshield and old rear window. Thanks for reply
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on November 23, 2010, 05:25:52 pm
Hey looking for the stuff to seal up my doors. Not really sure what exactly stuff is that I'm finding, partly because my doors had nothing to begin with so I'm not 100% on whats missing. Found these and not sure what to get.

http://www.classicparts.com/1981-91-Door-Felt-Kit/productinfo/03-672/
http://www.classicparts.com/1981-91-Beaded-Window-Seals/productinfo/03-576/
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on November 23, 2010, 10:22:07 pm
the $65 kit has the beaded window felts or sweeps in it, and they alone are %50 or 55 you want the entire kit. You'll need the vent window seals too. Those kits do the main window only I think, you'll still need the door weather strip to seal the door to the cab and then the vent window seal, but that requires you to drill out the rivet, remove the vent and then install the seals and re-rivet it.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: jaredts on November 24, 2010, 06:15:15 am
Each door gets a window run channel, inner and outer belt seal, and a door seal.  The vent window seals should be still on your vent window ass'y and you'll have to decide if you want to tackle that.  This is the kit I bought and will get you most of what you need:  http://www.jcwhitney.com/complete-door-weatherstrip-kits-for-cars-trucks-and-suvs/p2008622.jcwx?filterid=b896d7648y1986j1 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/complete-door-weatherstrip-kits-for-cars-trucks-and-suvs/p2008622.jcwx?filterid=b896d7648y1986j1)  The price is competitive if you use one of their discount codes like free shipping or 20% off.  The fit is pretty good, although the inner belt seal doesn't fit nearly as well as the original.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on November 24, 2010, 09:16:28 am
competetive? do you see the link he posted from classic parts? everything in the kit you posted, run channels and window sweeps, for $55 and they have door weatherstrip for $30, they even have vent seals for like $40.

vent windows..
http://www.classicparts.com/1985-91-Vent-Window-Weatherstrip/productinfo/03-809B/

run channels and beaded sweeps...
http://www.classicparts.com/1981-91-Door-Felt-Kit/productinfo/03-672/

door weatherstrip...
http://www.classicparts.com/1973-91-Door-Rubber-Seals/productinfo/03-021/

You could buy all of those for the price of the kit with door seals from jcwhitney. it always pays to shop around if you are on a tight budget.

I think capt. sells weatherstrip in the online catalogs now tho doesn't he?
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: jaredts on November 24, 2010, 09:32:22 am
That does look like a deal.  I don't know who manufactures those, but was told to stay with Precision as their quality is better than some others.  I did get 20% off so it was about $120, but not that good of a deal apparently.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Captkaos on November 24, 2010, 09:35:35 am
I will have them available by Mid December.
I would ask classic who makes theirs also.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Swims350 on November 24, 2010, 10:14:57 am
I have heard similar, heard that metro wasn't that good or they were good or something and advance carries metro weatherstrip. I heard of another brand being really good but forget their name.

Good to know Chris, I would trust capt. to get some top notch stuff as well, it may be more but he deals in good stuff and does alot of background and research on them first I bet before making them a vendor or buying from them.

Definately a good thing to think of, quality and fit over price. A cheap one may fit ok, may fit terrible, same can be said for more expensive ones, or they may not last long.
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on November 24, 2010, 07:40:50 pm
Thanks guys will definitely shop around and find out who manufactures classics parts. Capt I know you said you will have on site in mid dec but can you sell me one off site
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Captkaos on November 24, 2010, 10:59:37 pm
I don't have any to sell..
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: 86gmc23 on November 24, 2010, 11:03:07 pm
I meant like do you have a company who your looking to start dealing with that could possibly order one from, no worries I'll get one. Thanks
Title: Re: Finally got my first 86!
Post by: Captkaos on November 24, 2010, 11:09:18 pm
The place I am going to add is Precision, they are a distributor only, you can't buy from them.  JCWhitney sells them last I checked, which was before jaredts bought some.