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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Wheels & Tires => Topic started by: Lt.Del on July 24, 2010, 02:14:56 pm
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I am a do-it-yourselfer. Escpecially when it comes to brand new aluminum wheels, I don't want some 18 year old mechanic expiramenting with a heavy machine to "bend" my wheels when mounting tires to them.
So, with a little dishwashing liquid (Dawn) to lube it up, I put the tires on. Now, the question, What is the secret to seal the tire on the wheel to inflate it? I have 265 75 16 tires on 16x8 AR Outlaw II rims. The size should be fine. My air compressor is not an industrial one by any stretch of the imagination.
The tire seems too skinny but i hope it is just because I can't inflate it any to make a bead yet.
Any tricks? Or just a more powerful compressor?
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A ratchet strap around the tread of the tire should squash it enough to seal. It works for me anyhow, be sure to release the strap as soon as the tire starts taking air, or you won't be able to get it loose.
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Nice rims.
So all you have to do is set the bead correct? My air hose from the compressor has a quick disconnect on it. I remove the valve from the valve stem, pull back the
collar on the quick connect, and stick it on the valve stem. The burst of air will set the bead. Once you hear it pop, remove the air hose, install the valve, and inflate the tire.
I'm sure this method is not OSHA approved, but it works great.
I've seen video of guys spraying starting fluid in the tire and lighting a match to it, this seems like an accident waiting to happen.
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You can buy a bead seating tool "cheetah"is the brand I see most people use they are pricey but work great and are the safest method. I used the ratchet strap method for years till one day I popped an atv tire up on the beads went to release it and as I hit the lever it popped up and the gears on the ratchet left two 3 inch gouges in my wrist and a trip to the ER.
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Andy lol its easy and I know you have all the tools
And iv done it spray a couple small squirts of starting fluid in the tire and rim hit it with a torch and the fire will expand the tire causing it to seal
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Pull out the shrader core and use a rubber tip air gun to inflate it. without the core in it the air can get into the tire much much faster, and hopefully seat the bead. if that doesnt work, wrap a ratchet strap aroud the tread of the tire and squash it some, this will spread the sidewalls outward.
Good luck!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZhszvMjvjg&feature=youtube_gdata
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A tire machine is designed to protect the wheel from any damage. You would have to be a moron to ruin one of those wheels on the machine. I woulda just paid someone $10 bucks to mount them on there for you but as others have said, just remove the valve core lay the wheel on something so there's no pressure on the tire. Try to seal the bead area by gently lifting upward on the tire as you fill it.
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I've seen video of guys spraying starting fluid in the tire and lighting a match to it, this seems like an accident waiting to happen.
Blew out a newer bfg for my s-10 doing that. Wasn't happy
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how much fluid did you use?
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I too have done the lighter fluid trick atleast 12 times but never on anythings that was mine, or daily driven hahah.
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never used lighter fluid before
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how much fluid did you use?
My dad and I did it when I was younger, probably a ton lol
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when we do semi tires we just take the core out and hook the hose right on the valve stem with out using any attachment then once you get it to seat quickly pull the hose off and put the core in. or if that wont work we have an old propane tank with a valve on the side and a spout on the top and just fill the tank with 100 psi of air put some ear plugs in and aim that blast of air right at the bead and it will fill the tire with real quick burst of air and almost instantly be seated. Its extremely loud though ear plugs are definitely a necessity.
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Sgt:
You could try the ratchet strap/rope around the tire(doesn't always work) or even the compressed air blast method(which i don't like). i especially don't like the torch method.
What i've used is something known as a tire donut. Here's a link:
http://www.ribetproducts.com/home.php?cat=85
It's pretty neat---it creats a seal between the rim and tire bead and as the tire inflates and pressure goes up, the donut simply pops out.
i prefer doing it myself too when it comes to tires.
wow---didn't notice the date. Oh well, still useful info.
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all these guys, but im suprized no one mentioned this. A lot of places may use dish soap as a lube, BUT the dish soap never really evaporates, leaving a possible sippery situation if your under load which may allow the bead to rotate on the rim.
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Thanks for the info; i've always wondered about that---sometimes when i dismount tires there seems to be still a little soapy residue. Not a whole lot but definitely an oily condition. i'll sometimes not use soap if i can get away with it. Not for the reasons you mentioned though----mostly because it's more work!
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I've mounted tires by hand at home and I've worked at a tire shop using the machine. The machine is 100x faster and easier. Those machines are designed to work without scratching or bending the wheel. (by the way you would have to do something catastrophic to actually bend the wheel.) The only time you have to worry is if you have spokes that stick up past the rims edge, I have seen people mess those up because they dont set the duckhead to the highest part of the spoke.
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Try this. At northentools.com item number is 145645-1101 or 14599559-1101
http://northerntool.digby.com/shops/web/northerntool?cmd=searchResult&itemId=145645&vendorId=110 kind of the same ideal as the starting fluid but just a little more money
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They work pretty good when needed. We got a Cheetah at my shop for the tires that need "persuading" .
But overall you would have to be incredibility incompetent to bend a rim, I can see some idiot scratching it tho.
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Soap is no problem, you have to have something on the bead to seal it to the rim, otherwise you run the risk of having a slow leak at the bead.
Soap doesn't hurt.