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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => 73-87 Chevy & GMC Trucks => Topic started by: project85 on November 04, 2010, 10:25:53 pm
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has anyone put a new windsheild in and did a flush install? my brother does auto body and is into restoring cars. he was telling me it is the new thing to smooth out the look on car windsheild by making a channel for the windsheild to sit in and put a glue or whatever in to hold it. they eliminate the window molding. he said it is how new cars are being made and alot of his hot rod buddies have been doing it to there cars. i guess some vehicles have enough room on the channel around the windsheild or they have to fab in a 1/2 inch channel.
i wanted to see if anyone has done this and if they have any pictures. my window leaks so i'm gonna try it i think soon. i'll take pictures if i don't see any before i do it.
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What's the point? To spend thousands of dollars to reduce the size of the windshield gasket? Seems like a pretty lame mod. There's money more well spent on better things and frankly the windshield looks good stock.
My opinion of course.
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on my 85 anyway he sayd there is enough lip already there to do it so it is just removing it and putting this other sealant down behind it. it will show more of the A post and no gasket. it is how all new vehicles are being made. my windsheild has a leak somewhere down low so i gotta pull it out anyway. i know my brother's buddy has a 55 chevy truck and he doesn't have enough lip on it so e has to fab a piece in. shouldn't cost thousands of dollars and it should give it a modern smooth look, something different anyway.
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Newer windshields are glued in with urethane sealant, but they still have a trim covering the gap (at least most of them). You're going to have to come up with some kind of thin trim piece to cover up the gap with the sealant around it or it'll look like poo. If you've ever put a windshield in or taken one out that has the urethane, you'll know its a pain in the behind. I'd rather have the stock gasket setup as its much easier. I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish--a cleaner look or a better seal?
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It should be a cleaner look. I gotta go and look at one to se for sure.
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Vile x 2. I know everyone has opinions, but if I wanted a modern, smooth look, I would have bought a modern, smooth truck. But that's just me...
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i think it sounds sick. dont listen to these haters. do it. subtle mods are what its all about. but it is true you will have to find a small black ruber peice to all around it. so theres not gap. same way new cars have it. i think it'll be a clean look. and im looking forward to seeing pictures
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From what I've seen on newer vehicles its a 1/2in wide flat strip. It'll be different atleast. Probably be few weeks before I get to it, but I will post some before and after pics.
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I installed the windshield and rear window in my 34 Ford with the urethane, I don't think the seal I used to trim the edges would be wide enough to fill the gap that will be left in these trucks, but there may be other seals available. The big thing your gonna have to find/make is the inside trim. On my 34' it had trim pieces for the inside, on these tricks the gasket is the inside trim.
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Keep in mind the windshield is a structural part of the cab and if you decide to play around with it that it doesn't interfere with the functionality of the support it has. GM and FMVSS require that all windshield installs be secured in urethane now even on these trucks so make sure it's in there secured.
Good luck with it - not hating on it just don't really see it being a great mod but if it floats your boat go for it. What is your plan to make it look clean by the edges where the glass is not shaded? The blobs of urethane will be seen through the glass.
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About the 34 ford do you havde any pics?? I wanna see it on an older truck.
As far as the extra urethane, I dunno. I gotta trust my brother on how he's gonna do it. He's pretty crafty to hopefully it comes out good. If not I will pull it out and make it original. It leaks now so I gotta pull it eitherway. If there isn't a big enough channel there I will probably put it back to original instead of makeing a channel.
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There are a couple things you need to keep in mind here: The reason the '55 Chevy doesn't have enough channel is because it was originally set in a rubber gasket...just like "our" trucks! The cars with clip-on trim around the windows already have the glass sealed on the lip, just more (higher) adhesive is needed to set the window higher "in the hole". Because the trim sits mostly on the glass on these vehicles, a rather narrow trim can be used to hide the gap & they have the "right look". On most vehicles with a rubber gasket, the window is much closer to falling through the hole, plus the edges of the metal are rounded along the edge...not squared off snug to the glass. The channel will need to be made wider & much closer to the outside surface. The only way to get the "right look" is going to be to weld metal on at least 3 sides (push the glass up 3/16" from the roof), fill in both sides about a 1/2" & square the corners & fill the bottom about 1". There is a BIG difference between getting the "right look" & just fooling with it. If you try to use big enough trim to cover the rounded corners & the BIG gap without adding metal, it's not really going to look much different than the original set-up & most likely the plastic trim will gather & wrinkle in the 4 corners...looking much worse than a factory gasket ever did.
One other concern that I've seen "unanswered" on many that kinda ruins the deal is the inside looking out. On a '73-'87 truck without interior trim, I think I'd try to use the factory gasket, carefully cut to fit just over the channel & hide the metal edge & the goo. However, the old metal channel would be "in" too far & in the way, soooooo it would have to be cut off & the seam welded shut, smoothed up, ect. If you have the plastic headliner trim, making molds & adding 3/4" toward the window would work well...you have skills right?;) The bottom of the dash pad is another concern...a 1" gap between the front of the pad & the windshield would not be exceptable to me.
Can it be done & look very nice? Absolutely! However, it will either take a pretty skilled guy a bunch of hobby time or that "thousands of dollars" we herd about earlier. It also takes lots of forethought to figure the end of the project before you start! That is the difference between a great looking anything & one that was just started & "We'll figure that later". My Two cents, Lorne
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Nicely put hauling it, nicely put.....
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OPP will have one, it works like their flush mounted back glass seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/OnePieceProducts#p/u/8/eLMRTA_kj-c
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Yes we will!!! ;)
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Hey Sandra.
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Thats pretty cool.
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it looks sweet but who likes to cut out a window so you can replace it.
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Diggin the flush rear window! Captkaos, are you gona have these in your store?
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Found under cabs here is the direct link. (this is the REAR glass)
http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=7&Category_Code=CABGLAS