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Title: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 20, 2011, 05:58:44 pm
i was checking fluids on the truck before another snow storm tonight (Yesssir!)  and noticed that one of my header tubes was glowing red.   the #6 cylinder, and it is the only one doing it.  there is a spot at the head that doesnt glow (bout an inch) and then 6 or so inches are glowing.  not bright red, but a noticeable glow.   
I checked spark and it was fine.   i know the carb needs to be rebuilt, but if it was carb related, why only one cylinder?   maybe a sticking valve, or retarded timing?   

i'm lost

 any ideas what would cause this?
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: Grim 82 on January 20, 2011, 06:23:57 pm
What does that spark plug look like?
Most likely it's in the valvetrain. Loose rocker, bent pushrod, flat spot on the cam, it's hard to say. I doubt it's your carb though, or it would affect more than just one cylinder.
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: VileZambonie on January 20, 2011, 07:54:37 pm
Do a compression test on that cylinder
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 21, 2011, 04:19:38 pm
i did a compression test on the cylinder.   it's at 110.   here is the spark plug from #6

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/prfakaharry/IMG_1127.jpg)

i pulled the plug on #4 as well and checked that one.   same, at 110.   plug from #4

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/prfakaharry/IMG_1130.jpg)
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 22, 2011, 03:51:39 pm
any ideas?    i'm not sure where to even start looking
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: ohio hab on January 22, 2011, 05:33:03 pm
Usually caused from timing to retarded, or too rich fuel mixture so the fuel is burning in the header. I would check for a bad spark plug, wire, since only in one cylinder. Make sure getting full spark to that cylinder. I since re read your post and you checked the spark, also could be a bad cam lobe. Check timing first.
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: Irish_Alley on January 22, 2011, 05:36:28 pm
Couple things come to mind. One you need some lotion lol. Two how old the plugs. Three did you check the compression on the other cylinders
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 22, 2011, 06:49:33 pm
timing is set at 8*, set it about 2 months ago, and thats where it ran best.   plug wires are good, thats what i was checking when i found the glowing tube.  

i'll have to get my girl to look into some lotion.   shes always haggling me about my working man hands.    the spark plugs were replaced last winter.  i will be checking the other cylinders tom for compression.
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: Irish_Alley on January 22, 2011, 11:39:42 pm
Some times working with metal if it’s thin, rusty or has resistance it will get hotter than a thicker or clean surface. That could explain the tube but for the plug idk. About the lotion lol my wife is in charge of that, I can’t remember what type it is but it works well
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: VileZambonie on January 23, 2011, 09:57:26 am
Did you check for vacuum leaks? Do you have a cylinder leakage gauge? What thermostat are you running? What # spark plugs do you have?
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 23, 2011, 01:57:21 pm
i found one vac. leak, inside the cab somewhere.   I disconnected the hose running into the cab and capped it off.  (not sure what it even does?!)
i do not have a cylinder leak kit, but am trying to find one locally.  i am running a 180* thermostat. not sure on the # spark plugs, i know they are champions though.


edit:  also figured out i don't know how to check compression, so those numbers are not accurate. will try to do it the right way tom.
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: Grim 82 on January 23, 2011, 03:10:43 pm
The hose running into the cab is for the HVAC system, controlling the direction of air flow for the floor, defrost, etc.
It could also be an intake leak right by that cylinder.
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: beastie_3 on January 23, 2011, 04:24:43 pm
It puts the lotion on its skin...
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: VileZambonie on January 23, 2011, 04:27:48 pm
lol
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: Irish_Alley on January 23, 2011, 11:51:21 pm
Lmao ::)
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 30, 2011, 08:22:05 pm
just thought i'd check in.  no real updates.  had to use the truck for the last storm and didn't really notice anything different in driveability than before i saw the red tube.   still have to do the compression test.  
 found a brand new MSD distributor for cheap money.   when i put that in, i'm gonna check timing, do the compression test, new plugs. maybe install a holley 600 so i can rebuild the quadrajet thats on there.  i had planned on doing all this at the end of the plow season anyway!  might as well start early.   
 i'll report back with results.
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: HAULIN IT on January 30, 2011, 10:15:18 pm
Was the vacuum hose that was open on a fitting in the intake port on the cylinder that was getting Red?
Title: Re: one header tube glowing red?!?
Post by: 4x4orbust on January 31, 2011, 04:07:44 pm
it was plugged into a T on the back of the intake.   the cylinder that was glowing red is right in line with it, but wouldn't the #5 cylinder do it as well?