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General Site Info => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stewart G Griffin on March 14, 2011, 05:06:31 am
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So i just turned 300,000 on the cavalier a few weeks ago:
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd31/sencraig/0166.jpg)
Original engine, trans and fuel pump. This is proof that gm's can be as dependable if not more than imports.
i got it in 97 for $2700 cash. It used to get around 32mpg, it now gets 28 and i think that's partially attributed to the E10 gas that's virtually unavoidable these days.
Now i have to admit that i'm probably going to put it on back up status for now because i don't have time or the ability to thoroughly go thru it and refurbish it.
So by the way, does anyone know where i can get a new or remanufactured 2.2 engine?
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Junk yard
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The problem with the wrecking yard is i'm essentially/maybe getting what i already have---a used up engine. i want a clean slate b/c these engines are not nessesarily real easy to take in and out of the car.
i have to add that i have all my reciepts for service and averaged up it's about $300 per year to maintain this car. There's too much notions in the air that the Japanese are superior when it comes to economical transportation. i'm not convinced.
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I like it!
Just hunt around for remanufactured engines... as an example Jasper Engines is one place but I've never used them. Either that or see if GM has a crate replacement engine for it.
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Other than high mileage, what overall condition is the rest of the car? It sounds like it has been a good investment.
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http://www.jegs.com/i/GM-Performance/809/19156263/10002/-1?parentProductId=956489 (http://www.jegs.com/i/GM-Performance/809/19156263/10002/-1?parentProductId=956489) This is close to the right motor, I think. Pricey. Great motor, though.
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Maybe stick a 350 in it?
Yeah the engine for my focus is like $4k from ford, heck for 12k I can put a 302 or 351 in it and be done with it and have a vette killer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzpc_Km41PE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzpc_Km41PE)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand-New-GM-2-2-L-Ecotec-Production-Crate-Engine-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb3cb7a7aQQitemZ200584952442QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand-New-GM-2-2-L-Ecotec-Production-Crate-Engine-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb3cb7a7aQQitemZ200584952442QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
Hope its ok to post this stuff here. Could you rob a late model cobalt from the junkyard?
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Maybe I missed something but what's wrong with your engine?
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Maybe I missed something but what's wrong with your engine?
300,000 miles. You can check with wrecking yards if you have any around. I know around here they have a warr. on engines you buy from them.
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A little off topic and not sure if I mentioned this before on here but. Seeing your garage door opener in the pic reminds me of some criminals around here that would break into someone’s car steel the tom-tom or like device and also snag there garage door opener. They would then go directly to the victim’s house using the tom-tom home button and then use the door opener to open the garage and have access to the house while the victim was still talking to the cops about the car
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I was wondering this too.
Maybe I missed something but what's wrong with your engine?
We are involved with a few cavaliers at the local race tracks around. Today I asked somebody that rebuilt a couple of cavalier engines last season what it would cost to rebuild a running engine(meaning no major damage just worn). He figured probably $800 including machine work. That was just a guess though while we were driving in a wrecker. Being just a guesstimate he may be way off but I know they don't have too much into them.
Last year in their shop we were all looking at one they tore down with 275K on it and remarking how little wear it had.
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I like it!
Just hunt around for remanufactured engines... as an example Jasper Engines is one place but I've never used them. Either that or see if GM has a crate replacement engine for it.
i'm actually nervous about Jasper even though i know they have it. i couldn't find a goodwrench (what i prefer) part # yet.
2)Other than high mileage, what overall condition is the rest of the car? It sounds like it has been a good investment.
There is some rust at the rocker panels and some surface rust on the rear floorboards, other than that, body ok. The headliner cloth is gone, but most on the underlay is still there? The interior is not a disaster, but shows wear. Everything is intact and complete although the a/c doesnt work. i can probably dig up some pictures.
3) Jareds: Unfortunately the ecotec is not the same engine as the 2.2L even though the displacement is the same. i will look into it as i'm sure it will bolt to the transaxle with no problems and will fit w/out any modifications.
4) Maybe stick a 350 in it?
i would love to and it would still get good mpg due to the light weight. However, i'm not sure it would fit w/out major modification to the chassis. The major point of interference is the rt. strut tower. Will look into this further.
5) Maybe I missed something but what's wrong with your engine?
Well, there's nothing really "wrong" with it. But after 300K, i don't want to push my luck.
Really, my plan was to eliminate the EFI and fuel pump and convert to carb---this way i got something simple and easy to fix. But i figure if i'm going to do that i might as well get a new/reman engine since i was planning on taking the engine out anyways during the conversion.
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P.S., as of 6 weeks ago goodwrench does not exist. More gm stupdity.
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So, can anyone come up with a part # for a new or remanufactured engine by GM or other decent engine rebuilders?
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my plan was to eliminate the EFI and fuel pump and convert to carb---this way i got something simple and easy to fix. But i figure if i'm going to do that i might as well get a new/reman engine since i was planning on taking the engine out anyways during the conversion.
The work you would have to do to go backwards is more work than it would take to learn something new about new technology. However the EFI system you are talking about is not new technology and is about as simple as it gets. It's more simplistic than carburetion.
As far as getting another engine I still don't get it. Unless you grenade yours it'll be much more eceonomical to repair it.
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P.S. Estimated 9088 gallons burned so far.
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I say chevy is the best.. I'm with some of the other guys go to a good junk yard some give 2 year warrantys on them.. Some you can see the car it came out of and the miles..
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http://paceperformance.com/i-5134962-12465446-2-2l-ln2-4-1998-chevy-cavalier-pontiac-sunfire.html
PN 12465446?
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That looks like the one that will bolt right into the chassis. What i'm mainly concerned about is will all the accessories/exhaust bolt right up. Probably will but will double check.
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I know the car's been good to you, but you've got a $600 car there. You could buy a low miles cavalier for the price of the new motor. Or go to a used Cobalt that has a newer, better version of the motor for not much more. The best thing to do is nothing and drive it until the wheels fall off. That or sell it and get something with lower miles. I wouldn't even stick a junkyard motor in that car. Its nothing against the car, I'm sure its been great it just doesn't have any value and with a brand new motor wouldn't have much more value. If you converted to carb. it would cost you something and would likely lower the value even more.
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Unless the car has sentimental value to you i say drive it till it goes.We got a 1994 eagle vision with a 3.3 v6 here with 237,000 miles on it.We have owned the car since day 1.It has never had a rebuild,its had gaskets like the intake plenium and the oil pan.Seen a few starters and a couple of water pumps and so on.The car looks like heck but were gonna run it till the motor goes.Unless your really attached to the car i think your better off just driving it till it goes.
thanks
Pat