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Title: Boiling maple sap ( udated new pics from 4-2-11 )
Post by: Blazin on March 20, 2011, 08:50:57 am
My buddy Brett's arch. 3'x8' raised flue sap pan, 3'x3' syrup pan.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Brettsarch.jpg)

Boiling sap at about 100 gallons an hour. It takes 40 gallons of sap to make 1 galon of syrup.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Boilingsap3-19-11.jpg)

10 gallons of fresh hot syrup right out of the pan. Awaiting finishing, and filtering. We made 8 gallons last Wed. night, and 25 gallons yesterday afternoon.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Freshsyrup3-19-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: zieg85 on March 20, 2011, 09:35:05 am
I got a hankerin for French toast...
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Lt.Del on March 20, 2011, 10:25:31 am
with a 40:1 ratio, it seems quite labor intensive.  And, not very profitable unless done in quite large amounts.  How does one get 40 gallons of sap from maple trees efficiently?

quite interesting.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 20, 2011, 10:39:02 am
Well there really isn't allot of money to be made. Its a labor of love! Prices range from $40 to $85 dollars a gallon for maple syrup. You can do the same process for birch sap too, but it takes about 100 gallons of birch sap to make a gallon of syrup. Birch syrup has the sweet taste but not the same as maple.
 He has about 1,000 taps out, about 220 of them are into buckets, the rest are on tubing that runs to a number of 20, 30, 60, gallon containers. He has a Yamaha Grizzly with tracks. Has a 12 volt pump in a 5 gallon bucket mounted to the front of it, with two 35 gallon tanks mounted to the racks. Drives it to the buckets dumps them into the 5 gallon bucket and while driving to the next set of buckets it pumps into the tanks. Also has a homelite gas pump, use that to empty out the larger containers. Drives the Grizzly back to the sugar house, or when across town back to the 1983 K30 dump with two 275 cage tanks in it, pumps it into them. Loads the wheeler back into the truck and goes to the next place. Hes a Chevy freak too!! Has had a few 73-87s, several 67-72s. Currently has the 83 K30 dump, and a 2009 2500HD with a duramx / allison combo.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Lt.Del on March 20, 2011, 11:31:44 am
Here in Va, we have a Maple Festival in Highland County, in Monterey, that just ends this weekend.  It's about 140 miles from me, so i've never been to it.  Perhaps next March I'll take the family out there for the weekend.  Monterey is a small rural town and this famous festival keeps it on the map.  People come from all around for this two-weekend long annual festival.

http://www.highlandcounty.org/maple.htm (http://www.highlandcounty.org/maple.htm)

Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: thirsty on March 20, 2011, 05:21:55 pm
Blazin you forget to mention how much beer it takes to make one gallon of syrup!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 20, 2011, 08:38:44 pm
None for Brett and I but it took a 12 pack for Pete!  ;D Pete did allot of heavy onlooking. Helped split some wood smaller, When he tried to start the chain saw to cut some that was to long he ripped the cord out of it! Hes a Ford lover by the way!  ::)
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: bake74 on March 20, 2011, 09:50:41 pm
     Very interesting to see the equipment that makes syrup, what does he use to clean up the sap from all those tanks and pumps ?
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: slammed79 on March 20, 2011, 10:02:23 pm
Thanks Blazin, now I want waffles!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: roger97338 on March 21, 2011, 04:11:24 am
Well there really isn't allot of money to be made. Its a labor of love! Prices range from $40 to $85 dollars a gallon for maple syrup. You can do the same process for birch sap too, but it takes about 100 gallons of birch sap to make a gallon of syrup. Birch syrup has the sweet taste but not the same as maple.
 He has about 1,000 taps out, about 220 of them are into buckets, the rest are on tubing that runs to a number of 20, 30, 60, gallon containers. He has a Yamaha Grizzly with tracks. Has a 12 volt pump in a 5 gallon bucket mounted to the front of it, with two 35 gallon tanks mounted to the racks. Drives it to the buckets dumps them into the 5 gallon bucket and while driving to the next set of buckets it pumps into the tanks. Also has a homelite gas pump, use that to empty out the larger containers. Drives the Grizzly back to the sugar house, or when across town back to the 1983 K30 dump with two 275 cage tanks in it, pumps it into them. Loads the wheeler back into the truck and goes to the next place. Hes a Chevy freak too!! Has had a few 73-87s, several 67-72s. Currently has the 83 K30 dump, and a 2009 2500HD with a duramx / allison combo.

Are the trees his trees, on his land? Or does he rent or lease the trees? And is it one tap per tree? Do more taps get more sap, or the same amount of sap faster?
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 21, 2011, 06:09:02 am
Bleach and hot water will clean everything. Just hot water during the boiling time. Only use bleach when the season is over.
Not all the trees are on his property. Most people will let you tap their trees for a quart or two of syrup, some don't want anything. Amount of taps per tree depend on how big the tree is, if it was a good producer the year before etc. Every tree is different. Some trees can fill a couple of buckets on a good run day, others only half fill the same or less buckets. for the most part more taps run more sap.
Best weather is 33 degrees or colder at night, and above 40 during the day, the warmer during the day the more it will run.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: autorepr on March 21, 2011, 06:46:42 am
WOW! That is crazy cool.   Looks like he has a real nice setup for his hobby.  Does he bottle and ship it or just sell locally?  Id be interested in some.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: log1000 on March 21, 2011, 07:41:04 am
my dad would use syrup in the beer he makes!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 21, 2011, 08:08:07 pm
Sells it local. I bet you could find it on line somewhere. Anyone that sells it to the public is supposed to be part of the Maple Association. Which means they are following guildlines etc. for cleanliness. He wants to add on to the sugar house, same size again, plus maybe a little wider. Move the finishing part, and the sink out into to the new section. Figured it out today, we burned about 3/4 of a cord of wood Sat. allot of that is construction debris. He works for a local contractor, brings home all the scraps.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 24, 2011, 12:18:09 am
Made 16 more gallons of syrup tonight. Have 775 gallons of sap to boil Friday night, plus what ever we collect Friday.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 26, 2011, 08:13:09 am
Boiled last night for a few hours. So far we are up to 63 gallons of syrup. We have about 1,200 gallons of sap to boil today that should bring the total to 93 ish gallons.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: 4x4orbust on March 26, 2011, 06:55:34 pm
we are just about finished with our season, maybe another week left.   made 35+ gals off of 130 taps this year.    this was a great year as far as syrup goes, the most we have ever made!!  last year we finished with 9 gals total on 100 taps.  

it is a great hobby to have,  lots of fun with a little hard work mixed in.  

blazin, any idea what his sugar content is?   ours was about 1.7 brix average for the year.   should be running like mad up there right now!!!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: txchainsawgogi on March 26, 2011, 07:14:01 pm
Ooh I want some syrup!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on March 27, 2011, 12:33:35 am
Not sure what the content is. He said he checked it last week but I don't think he said what it was.
We made it to about 84 gallons as of today. Still have some to boil tomorrow, and he has allot of finishing, and bottling to do!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap
Post by: Blazin on April 03, 2011, 08:08:32 pm
We are at about the 125 gallon mark so far. Going to be boiling a few nights this week. We are hoping to hit the 200 gallon mark by the end of the season!!
Some new pics from 4-2-11


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture008.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture003.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture002.jpg)

The work horse of the saping operation. 82 K30, hauls 550 galls of sap, and a Grizzly wheeler with tracks around to the several collection sites:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture001.jpg)

Sap runs in from the outdoor tank here:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture006.jpg)

Looking in the back door:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture007.jpg)

The business end of the arch. Fire box, and the syrup pans:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture004.jpg)

Inside with the doors closed:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture009.jpg)

Were the magic happens, the syrup pans:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture005.jpg)

Drawing it off, through its first filter:
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture010.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q165/BlazinK30/Spring%202011/Picture011.jpg)


Title: Re: Boiling maple sap ( udated new pics from 4-2-11 )
Post by: beastie_3 on April 04, 2011, 12:53:06 am
That is quite the investment!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap ( udated new pics from 4-2-11 )
Post by: Blazin on April 04, 2011, 06:18:35 am
He has three syrup pans, (only use two, we switch the front one out every time we boil) the sap pan all used were $3,500. He got the front of the arch in the woods off one of his fathers properties. He built the arch all him self. he built the sugar house himself about 8 years ago. He cut all the trees to make the lumber from his fathers land, and used his fathers saw mill to cut it all into lumber. Still allot of money though in roofing, nails, etc., tubing, buckets, barrels, tanks, taps, filters, jugs, etc.
He built the wood splitter too, it does 4'6" wood, thats the length he uses in his outdoor boiler for his house. The grates in the bottom of the arch are 30", but we can fit 36" in near the top as the back of the fire box is slopped.
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap ( udated new pics from 4-2-11 )
Post by: autorepr on April 04, 2011, 07:03:39 am
Surely he makes mOOnshine?????????  Show us the picks of that set up. We won't tell. Promise!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap ( udated new pics from 4-2-11 )
Post by: Blazin on April 04, 2011, 09:05:50 pm
No moonshine, but its been talked about hahaha!
Title: Re: Boiling maple sap ( udated new pics from 4-2-11 )
Post by: Joe-NC on April 05, 2011, 12:07:34 am
Reminds me of Buddy the Elf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ndNQ8rwNM