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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Body, Glass & Paint => Topic started by: devanray on April 27, 2011, 09:28:27 am

Title: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 27, 2011, 09:28:27 am
I've read through some threads here and on other sites but people give mixed opinions, so I figured I'd throw up a few pics and see what yo uguys think.

I'm putting a fiver that Vile will say hinge.

Thanks, as always
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: three8six on April 27, 2011, 10:30:35 am
There isn't a bunch of shims underneath the hood hinge?
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: bigchevyc30 on April 27, 2011, 10:49:23 am
im saying spring as my trucks hood is like that and i can just push on it and it goes down but i hit a bump it comes back to were it is when i closed the hood
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 27, 2011, 03:00:37 pm
No shims under the hood and I can push down on the back and have it line up but it won't stay.
I was thinking that if it were the springs, than it would mean that they were to loose, right? So, couldn't I just take three metal hose clamps (the kind that are tightened buy a small bolt) and compress them around a few of the spring 'loops' to tighten them up?

I may just have to give it a shot just to see what happens.

Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: beastie_3 on April 27, 2011, 04:18:37 pm
the hose clamps wouldnt hold that kind of pressure. the hinge joints might be worn too. id start with replacing the springs.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 27, 2011, 04:55:23 pm
@ Beastie - Ahhh  :( But isn't that how a true Chevy owner is supposed to think? Bailing wire and duct tape baby!  8)

I suppose I'll just keep my eye out for a set of springs, time to start saving the pennies... again. Always figured some day I would retire, than I bought a classic Chevy.

Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on April 27, 2011, 05:22:11 pm
It's loose hood hinges.  They need to be rebushed or replaced.  The spring is good, its the spring pulling it up like that, but only because the hinges are lose and worn out.

You might try rebushing them if you can find the how to on it.  I bought some aftermarket hinges and they were just like the old worn out ones.  Then I Got some NOS hinges and they fixed all the problems.  They're tight, the back of the hood stays down, and once I open my hood about 8 inches it opens the rest of the way on it's own.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 27, 2011, 06:41:10 pm
Oooh, almost opens by itself, that sounds nice.

So hinges eh? I'll see if I can find any info on re-bushing them. Where did you get yours 78 Chevyrado? $?
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: jaredts on April 27, 2011, 08:09:22 pm
Stupid question, but have you already maxed out the adjustment of the hood to hinge screws?
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 28, 2011, 07:55:49 am
No question is a stupid one, especially when dealing with me. But yes, I've adjusted them so much that my accountant thought he might be able to write it off. :P

I read an online post (on another site) about a guy who rebushed them for less than $20 from parts at homedepot. I wonder what NC law is about driving without a hood? If I try to rebush, I'll be sure to take pics and comments as I do it.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: beastie_3 on April 28, 2011, 12:30:40 pm

 I wonder what NC law is about driving without a hood?

Only one way to find out! It would probably be just a fix it ticket and not a moving violation. I think its illegal in Cali, but ive done it and saw others do it. Just depends on the officer.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 28, 2011, 01:17:54 pm
Probably does depend on the officer, if I had the hinges with me and explained, I'd probably be okay. Hopefully I wouldn't have to but I always end up needed something in the middle of a project.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: big bear on April 28, 2011, 01:41:56 pm
good luck man.  something so minor can be such a headache. haha
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: Grim 82 on April 28, 2011, 03:36:05 pm
I advise against driving without a hood, just because you never know when somebody is going to have a teen wolf episode and try surfing on your truck. That's how people lose digits ;)

Seriously though it might not be a bad choice to also install a hood brace kit to prevent any damage to your hood.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 28, 2011, 04:15:56 pm
I use an electric fan so no furry fingers will go a-flying. But the smell of the burnt hair might be a bit annoying. It would be worse if I had no gas cap and somebody tried filling it with fruit peelings so that they could go back in time or into the future.

I've seen the brace kit, but that just deals with a hood that is 'wrinkled' or bowed in the middle right?
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: Grim 82 on April 28, 2011, 04:27:01 pm
I believe the brace would be most useful as a preventative maintenance item. If you get the hinges working properly it may not be an issue, but if it has been that way for quite some time it may already have developed a weak spot in the hood.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on April 28, 2011, 04:29:59 pm
I can't remember where I got my hinges at.  They were NOS, and they were about $60 each.  Just hunt around for a 73-80 NOS hood hinge.  They're still around.


If you want something to try, you could enlarge the adjustment slots where the hinge bolts to the fender so you can adjust them even further.  It might not  work, but seems to be worth a try.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 28, 2011, 04:49:21 pm
I know I can get them new for $40 a pop but I think I'll try to rebuild first for $20 total and see what happens. When I get the hinges right I'll then be able to evaluate the hood a bit better and see if I need the braces, unless the springs are bad. Got so many things on my C 10 to-do list that braces are way down, the hinge rebuild creeps up the list due to its low cost and simple curiosity as to if I can do it. 

Also with the brace kit, it just seems like a strip of steel and not much else. I'll have to see if I can find a pic of one installed and see if it has more to do with it than just a simple flat piece of metal.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on April 28, 2011, 07:47:49 pm
IMO, If the hood hinges are really good and kept well oiled, and you also ONLY EVER shut the hood from the front and center, you'll never need the hood braces.
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: devanray on April 28, 2011, 08:10:05 pm
Yeah, I looked into what the brace was and even Mr. Gasket makes some so theres really nothing to them. Its only for those that already have the issue since most people would never lube the hinges, I've never even thought of the idea until now. If I ever needed them I would propably look at 5 - 6 dollars for the steel, 30 minutes of cutting and drilling and another 30 for install and bang!

I still hope that when I get the hinges done I wont need them, the hood edges look straight as it sits now but we'll see.

I will certainly take pics and notes as I go, probably wont happen for awhile though, but when it does I'll post the results.

I'm still going to try the metal hose clamp on the springs idea, just to see what happens. I'll were safety goggles.  8)
Title: Re: This a hood spring or hood hinge issue?
Post by: 1980c10 on April 28, 2011, 09:15:07 pm
I have the hood braces(not installed yet). they extend from the hinges forward down each side until maybe a foot from the front of the hood. I got them as I sometimes show my truck with the hood open and if I walk around I know a gust of wind won't destroy it. Also overtime I imagine the hood would get a slight bend to it no matter how careful I am.