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Title: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Mr84c10 on August 26, 2011, 08:03:43 pm
So today I was working on my truck and while it was running heard a tapping sound pop valve cover off and lifter was so loose I could have pull it off so I try to tight all em down that were loose and mainly all were loose.... I started wit cylinder 1 and went from there motor only has 2 k on it is a rebuilt 350 60 over before it would crank up on a dime now I don't any fire and it back fire on me twice.... anybody tell me what I did wrong???

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Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: topp on August 26, 2011, 08:09:39 pm
There is a proper sequence to tightening rockers....
Just tightening the "loose" ones is a good way to introduce your piston to your valves...
Title: Re: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Mr84c10 on August 26, 2011, 09:19:14 pm
I tight all of em... and what you mean by introduce my valves to my piston.... and what would be correct way

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Title: Re: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Mr84c10 on August 26, 2011, 09:19:55 pm
I meant other way around my bad

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Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: topp on August 26, 2011, 09:21:40 pm
Start here...

http://www.classiccarauto.com/impala/how_to/adjust_valves.shtml
Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Blazin on August 27, 2011, 01:08:50 am
Just cranking them all up will bend push rods, break rocker arms, could leave the valve open to long and slam the piston up into the valve.
Title: Re: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Jebadiah04 on August 27, 2011, 01:13:15 am
Start motor with vc off, get them to the point where they barely click then go a half a turn.  Assuming this is hydro lifties
Title: Re: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Mr84c10 on August 27, 2011, 03:51:18 am
Oh ok thanks guys ill try this either Saturday or Sunday and get bk wit y'all....

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Title: Re: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: VileZambonie on August 27, 2011, 11:33:46 am
Start motor with vc off, get them to the point where they barely click then go a half a turn.  Assuming this is hydro lifties

Or do it the right way
Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on August 27, 2011, 01:52:23 pm
You can set the valves INITIALLY with the engine off, and in a particular order or prcedure, but even when thats done, you have to set them later with the engine running.

to do it more cleanly, since you're supposed to do it while its running, is get an old valve cover and cut the top off it and that will catch the oil from running out of the head all over everything.  there are also some clips to have to clip on the rocker arm to keep oil from squirting up and out all over the place too, but i cant remember what theyre called.


If you tightened them all up without rotating the engine at all, probably some are too tight and not letting the valves close all the way, so you get backfires when an intake valve is open and a spark plug fires.

Introducing the valves to the pistons means the valves hand down too far and at the wrong time and the piston hits the valve crushing and or bending both.
Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: beastie_3 on August 27, 2011, 01:55:37 pm
thats not how youre supposed to do it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: Mr84c10 on August 27, 2011, 05:06:49 pm
thats not how youre supposed to do it.
What do u suggest then

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Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: beastie_3 on August 27, 2011, 06:03:21 pm
get a SBC rebuild book and follow the directions. IIRC youre supposed to rotate the motor to TDC tighten intake valve to spec, rotate it a little, repeat for exhaust then do it all over again for the remaining 7 cylinders.

Id check on youtube to see if there is info, but a book will have more info
Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: 1979C20 on August 27, 2011, 06:19:44 pm
Beastie, the way I did it was bring the piston to TDC compression stroke, so both valves are closed. Turn the push rod with your fingers and tighten the nut until the push rod stops turning theb turn it another 1/2 turn. Then bring the next piston to TDC compression and repeat. Some people aay turn it 3/4 turn, but 1/2 worked for me.
Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: beastie_3 on August 27, 2011, 06:23:19 pm
i was close
Title: Re: Adjust valves now will not crank
Post by: VileZambonie on August 27, 2011, 08:48:39 pm
Adjusting rockers with the engine running is the least accurate method and can cause serious engine damage if done incorrectly.

Adjust them according to the service manual or if it's an aftermarket cam use their recommended procedure. For an SBC or BBC a simple method is start on #1 TDCC and adjust I & E to zero lash plus 3/4 - 1 full turn. Rotate the crank 90° and repeat in the firing order #8 - 4 - 3 - 6 -5 -7 - 2