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Title: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 24, 2011, 05:09:36 pm
Someone at work got his checking account hacked into.  This scared me enough to take some action;  i did the credit freeze thing as i heard/read on Clark Howard that it was a good thing.  It cost me $5 for each credit bureau---3 total of course.   In your state in may be free or cheaper.

i have a very high credit rating and substantial amounts in 3 accounts---i'm not bragging, i'm just stating my situation and why this made me especially feel i need to take action, but really anyone and everyone i think should do something about this problem.


Can you think of any other things you can do to protect you identity and credit or any other sites/discussions/readings you could point me to?
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: bake74 on September 24, 2011, 08:35:57 pm
     Clark Howard rocks, my wife and I listen all the time and have gotten so much great info for him, another radio personality that is great with finances is Tom Sullivan out of New York, he used to reside in California until he went network.
     Oh yea, the credit freeze is great, we did it because we are planning on buying a house in 9 months and we don't need anybody else messing with our credit besides us.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: bobcooter on September 26, 2011, 12:15:39 pm
I'm afraid that if anyone stole my identity, they would pay ME to take it back! :)
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on September 26, 2011, 03:16:22 pm
one big thing i heard clark howard say was to have a seperate PC for all you banking.  never use your seperate banking PC for anything but banking and bill paying, no surfing, nothing.  sounds like a good job for the old PC when you get a new one.  i use my old laptop for that stuff.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 26, 2011, 11:27:53 pm
Good idea, will do.  thanks.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 27, 2011, 12:23:30 am
so your saying you a old laptop that probably is affected  just due to its age and surfing history for your banking? i would have to say i would be using the new one for that and clean out the old one change passwords and all on the new one
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 27, 2011, 10:18:21 am
Another good idea, thanks.

i see you can get brand new desktops and even laps for $450 or less?
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on September 27, 2011, 01:05:30 pm
my old laptop is about 3 years old, has been totally blanked out, reformatted, and only windows and internet explorer are on it.  so I'm rid of anything it used to have on it previously.  i only get updates for windows and anti virus, and use it for banking stuff and bill paying.   The only way this will work though, is to completely wipe out the hard drive of the old PC and start over from scratch, reinstalling windows, everything.

The idea is that when you surf, you pick up junk everywhere, even if you watch what you're doing something slips in somewhere, while the laptop isnt perfectly safe, it has a lower chance of problems just from the point that i dont do anything with it but goto secure bank sites.  and i can have all the safety settings set to highest, which would be a pita to have setup that way on your normal use PC.

if a hack came out that took over all the windows PCs id still be screwed, but its unlikely ill have trouble from ads, popups, bad links, links that send you bad links, etc.   i also turn the laptop off when im not using it, so its not a constantly available target.

my main pc never gets turned off, and i use it everyday for everything, i pick up stuff fairly often, but i dont have any of my critical stuff on it, so im not as worried about it.  Ive got that one setup so no matter what happens i can be back up and running like nothing happens in about an hour or so.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 27, 2011, 05:12:02 pm
i didnt know you could "completely" clean out a pc.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: muddpuppy01 on September 27, 2011, 06:34:25 pm
yeah fairly simple thing to do google doh ( department of homeland security ) computer wipe that eliminates everything then you would have to reinstall windows
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 27, 2011, 07:12:21 pm
might have to try it to my moms computer, see if it helps
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: jdl71 on September 27, 2011, 09:21:50 pm
i didnt know you could "completely" clean out a pc.

Buy a new hard drive and install windows (and have your registration key) is the only surefire way I know of. Even C: /FORMAT C leaves recoverable data on there.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on September 27, 2011, 09:42:04 pm
Theres a program..  cant think of it now, as im kinda drunk  ;)   it's a Linux distro I boot from a USB drive, but it will write 000's or 111's to the HD to totally wipe out everything.  but so far just a regular format has sufficed for everything I've been doing so far.  I really dont bother with a total wiping of the drive too often, mainly only when there are clusters in question.   i also like to delete all the partitions on a drive before reinstalling windows, just an extra EASY step while I'm at it.


Edit:  the only thing in a computer that stores data even after a power outage is the Hard drive.  Bios does too, but let's not worry about BIOS.

so if you blank out the Hard Drive, all is lost, including the bad junk.  everything else loses all its data just by turning off the PC.

there will be some old data left after a regular format, but chances are real good installing windows over a formatted hard drive will overwrite most of the old used blocks.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 28, 2011, 10:48:28 am
i kind of figured that's what they meant when they suggest using an old computer.

i'm thinking i might just go back to writing checks and mailing them for now because while i am in the market for a new computer, i don't know how to "clean" the old one out.

In addition i only pay maybe 5-6 companies a month so that's about $3 in postage per month.  A cheap new computer is about $450?   It would take maybe 12 years for the computer to pay off!  This is sort of like the whole, "should i buy a new smaller car so i can get better mileage dilema."
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on September 28, 2011, 11:12:33 am
i kind of figured that's what they meant when they suggest using an old computer.

i'm thinking i might just go back to writing checks and mailing them for now because while i am in the market for a new computer, i don't know how to "clean" the old one out.

In addition i only pay maybe 5-6 companies a month so that's about $3 in postage per month.  A cheap new computer is about $450?   It would take maybe 12 years for the computer to pay off!  This is sort of like the whole, "should i buy a new smaller car so i can get better mileage dilema."

yep, checks are safer anyway far as i can tell.  the whole PC thing is just a convenience / timesaver.

Which makes me think of one other tip...  when paying bills online, use E-checks, NOT debit or credit cards.  they can screw you really bad if you use cards to pay.  google "cancel recurring payment".  the bank cant/wont stop recurring payments, only the people taking your money can.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 28, 2011, 03:46:51 pm
Netflix’s was charging my expired debit card for months till i finally canceled. i mean it wasnt like i wasnt watching netflixs but the thought that the expiration date doesn’t matter. i called my bank and asked why when i got a new card wasnt my numbers changed they said they would only change them if the card was lost or stolen. and this is why netflix was able to get away with it. But about checks idk if they are safer. For one they have to be sent in the mail and if you’re a target the simples thing to do is steel you mail and “bleach” a check. Something I keep telling my in-laws is don’t put the red flag up on your mail box cause that’s the number one sign that you have “bills” in the mail and if your sending out a bill its going to have a credit card number /expiration date or a check in it. It’s like saying to the thief here’s my mail take it if you can beat the postman
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on September 28, 2011, 11:33:04 pm
That's true---checks are not exactly safe either.   Maybe i should go back to paying cash for everything.
Title: Zappos
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on January 17, 2012, 02:57:45 pm
Update:   Zappos gets........zapped.

As you may have heard, Zappos got hacked into over the weekend and 24 million users got their account info stolen.   They're saying 24 million----could be more.   i "had" to buy a coat thru zappos because the north face physical stores and their own website didn't have my size color---yet zappos had it (how does that work?) last week .

i don't really like to buy online, but sometimes you have to.


Do you feel that buying or using another computer JUST for online purchases IN ADDITION to the other separate computer to be used ONLY FOR BANKING would be a good move?   


So, in this way you have 3 computers----one for general surfing and everything else, one just for banking only, and one for online shopping only.
Title: Re: MONEYTALK PT. 1: Identity theft
Post by: Captkaos on January 17, 2012, 03:40:57 pm
If a site gets hacked, it doesn't matter which machine you browsed to it from. 

I always suggest having a completely separate computer for surfing vs one you do any type of purchases on and you never use the one for purchases to do browsing.