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Title: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on September 27, 2011, 06:51:12 pm
So, we all make mistakes. I tend to make expensive ones. I have no idea... Just not thinking and tired. I was also listening to Car Talk, which may have caused a severe decrease in brain function.

Basically, I went to press out my old ball joints and this is where the fun started. Not only did I start on the upper (pressing in the wrong direction) but I forgot to remove the preload sleeve. And I didn't even take the steering knuckle out of the yoke. I just started pressing it. I swear I wasn't drunk.

The preload sleeve looks like it got pushed down 1/4" at the most. Not sure how bad the threads are, but obviously it's going to be bad. And I don't have a spanner socket to back it out and see the real extent of the damage.

Is this axle housing pretty much unsafe to fix/use now? I do not want to take any chances with this.

And be kind, I've had a crappy week with too much on my mind. Bathroom renovation is stalling (going on 3 months), found active termites in the basement, problems at work, broke up with the ball and chain, etc. I'm not smiling right now.
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on September 27, 2011, 06:52:36 pm
Oh and I'm sorry... brain still not working. It's an '85 K10.
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 27, 2011, 07:24:53 pm
you can use a punch and hammer to remove the sleeve. i dont think you can really damage the threads. heck iv'e not even changed them out before just adjusted them and be done but this was on a mudder that prob was going to be taken back apart soon
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: bake74 on September 27, 2011, 08:21:20 pm
     For sure you need to get the sleeve out and check for damage, if none is evident i would say it is ok, but rent a spanner wrench to put it back in and check for proper adjustments before you slap everything back together.
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 27, 2011, 08:26:51 pm
just realize i wasnt clear what i said. you can take the punch and use it with the hammer to turn the sleeve out
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on September 28, 2011, 06:13:30 pm
Used a punch and hammer to get the sleeve out. No damage to the threads. I'm in the clear, thank God.
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: bake74 on September 30, 2011, 09:47:55 am
     Good to hear, now you can put it back together and start driving your truck again.
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on October 05, 2011, 06:24:35 pm
I should've looked at this before I took everything apart, but where should I have the grease fitting point on the upper ball joint? Straight at the axle, more to the front of the truck or more to the rear of the truck?
Title: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Senck243 on November 03, 2011, 07:02:00 pm
Is the sleeve reverse thread? I can't get the sleeve out
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on November 05, 2011, 10:15:56 pm
Normal thread. Have you removed the steering knuckle yet? That sleeve won't budge until all the pressure is off it.
Title: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Senck243 on November 06, 2011, 02:15:28 pm
I actually got the passenger side completely removed. The driver side I can't get the steering arm off. The three bolts are off it is just stuck. Do you need a puller or special tool ?
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on November 07, 2011, 12:32:41 pm
It would've been best to leave the steering arm alone. The nuts are NOT reuseable, and are expensive and hard to find online. ORD has them for like 40 or 50 bucks shipped. I hope you're installing a lift or something and putting a raised steering arm on.

If beating on the steering arm with a BFH didn't do anything, then you're going to need heat... and a bigger BFH. I gave up on mine and brought it to my buddies shop. No special tool or puller. Just cone washers, studs, nuts and rust.

Oh and as a side thought... Did you buy the spanner socket to put your preload nut back in? Start looking for it now (or making your own out of an old socket). Your local auto parts stores probably won't have it. And it ain't cheap. I found mine at a specialty shop for 35 bucks. Cheapest I could find online was 20 bucks before shipping.
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Daytona#3895 on November 08, 2011, 07:26:54 pm
Ok. I am in the process of doing the exact same thing on my truck. It needed u-joints and when I got the axle out, I noticed the knuckle moved with relative ease up and down. I could use a little clairification on the steps involved. After removing the knuckle, press the lower out first. Now do you have to replace the sleeve when chaging the upper ball joint? Does it have to be removed before pressing the joint out? Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Irish_Alley on November 09, 2011, 10:06:05 am
you should replace the sleeve and it can come out after you remove the joint
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on November 09, 2011, 06:25:00 pm
The new balljoint will come with the sleeve. Or at least it should...
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: DustyRusty on November 10, 2011, 07:35:30 pm
NAPA has the ball joint spanner wrench in two brands.  Here are part nos:

1.  BK7002467.  (Balkamp) Cost is ~ $21.50

2.  NCP 2782030.  (NAPA Chassis Parts) Cost is ~ $29

Rusty
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: 81GMCBILL on November 10, 2011, 09:21:58 pm
I doing mine too, the upper ball joint comes with the sleeve attached to it.

Q-  the "spanner socket " you mention, is this the socket that backs the adjusting sleeve out?
      the sleeve on top has four notches (like the axle nut) but is way smaller. Does Oreilly have this
      socket ?
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thanks..
Title: Re: Removing balljoints on a 10-bolt...
Post by: Sodium Duck on November 11, 2011, 03:49:16 pm
The small, four notched sleeve you're talking about is what the spanner socket is for.