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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Body, Glass & Paint => Topic started by: Tazman on October 19, 2011, 09:04:57 pm

Title: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 19, 2011, 09:04:57 pm
Does anyone here know if 87 Chevy trucks had clearcoat applied at the factory?Thanks
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: VileZambonie on October 19, 2011, 09:29:22 pm
Yes
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: HAULIN IT on October 20, 2011, 04:57:40 pm
There were only a couple colors that were clearcoated. For the most part the colors that should have been weren't (Gold, Lt. Blue & Red). Silver was & for some dumb reason White, but it was not the same White that was used in prior years. Lorne
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: VileZambonie on October 20, 2011, 09:39:45 pm
Look in your glove box at the RPO codes. If it says bc/cc that's base coat clear coat

They had problems in 87 & 88 with clear coat peeling
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 21, 2011, 04:09:14 pm
My truck is the red and it is doing what a lot of vehicles do here in Arizona where the paint looks chalky.I have been told to wet sand it out yet also been told rubbing compound will do it.Tried the latter and it worked a little but did not budge the tough stuff.
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: VileZambonie on October 21, 2011, 09:04:07 pm
What does the paint code in the glove box say?
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: HAULIN IT on October 22, 2011, 08:55:17 pm
Taz, If it's factory paint, it's not clearcoated. One easy way to tell is use a White cloth with a few dabs of wax or polishing compound, rub a spot on your truck then look at the cloth. If it's not clearcoated, the cloth will have a Red/Pink spot. If it is cleared, you'll just have a slightly dirty spot of compound. Lorne
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Blazin on October 22, 2011, 11:14:49 pm
Yup what he said ^^ .
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: VileZambonie on October 23, 2011, 06:37:03 am
Lorne,

My 87 V10 and my 88 V10 both had the peeling clear issue. Are you sure they weren't bc/cc? I don't have either truck anymore to check the spid label.
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 24, 2011, 07:52:28 pm
It is not peeling just looks sad.A guy told me today that the paint is dying.He works with paint daily and told me most paints will not last twenty five years,which my truck will be next year.I am still trying to send some pictures for all to see.
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 25, 2011, 09:24:45 pm
Hopefully these pictures will show what I have .
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: 1979C20 on October 25, 2011, 10:55:11 pm
Ive been working at a paint shop/custom airbrushing for the past week or so, and ive helped freshen pain on a few vehicle. There was a Mustang Cobra that needed some custom.paint and a repair of a quarter panel, just a little dent on the wheel well. He body filled it and then we took scotchbrite pads and scuffed the paint and made it chalky  like your truck.is. Then he sprayed it with clear coat and buffed/polished it and the clear filled in the the scuffs, scratches and sealed the paint. Maybe something similar can be done?
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: HAULIN IT on October 26, 2011, 08:41:13 pm
Lorne,

My 87 V10 and my 88 V10 both had the peeling clear issue. Are you sure they weren't bc/cc? I don't have either truck anymore to check the spid label.
Vile, I can take another look...What I saw in the paint chip book was about four colors: a White, Dk. Green, Lt. Gray & a Gold for '87...There might have been a couple more. One problem with the chip books is that all of the "commercial" colors are grouped together, so even if a color wasn't used on our trucks, but used on a S-10 or Van...it still shows up on the page. If we have a code (ie: 70 or a WA #) I can check for a particular one.
In '88 there were a bunch of clear coated colors. I'm pretty sure there were both non & clear coated Red in '88.

Taz, your truck is clear coated (or at least the bedside in your picture), as to if it's factory or not...I can't tell from that photo. If you look at the chalky area (the breaking down clear coat), in the center toward the back is a more Orange colored area, that is the base coat that has faded from no protection.
That paint is "dead", it needs sanded, sealed , more base coat applied & re-cleared. Lorne
 
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 26, 2011, 09:28:21 pm
So unless it gets painted it can not look better,correct?
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: VileZambonie on October 26, 2011, 09:39:15 pm
Well ir depends what you consider better, you can polish a turd... you know the rest. If yours id that bad do a home paint job.
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 26, 2011, 10:04:47 pm
As of now it is just the passenger side door and bedside.I wax it as much as I can to keep the rest of it for going.Thanks
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: 1979C20 on October 27, 2011, 03:48:43 am
If there is a clear coat on the truck, a good scuffing with a compound and another shot of clear could save the paint. But if the paint is oxidized, then your out of luck. Have you tried a deep cutting wax with a high speed buffer? I asked the shop owner what he would charge for refreshing some paint and a clear coat and he said it would run several hundred to a grand with labor, cost of materials, etc. which for that cost you could probably get a full maaco paint job.
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: HAULIN IT on October 27, 2011, 07:57:24 pm
As of now it is just the passenger side door and bedside.
Exactly! Those Two panels (likely the cab corner also) have been repaired & the clear has died...likely from too thin of film build or maybe a low quality product. The Right fender in the same area (in the rounded bodyline & on the top edge) isn't turning White & chalky? Lorne
Title: Re: clearcoat
Post by: Tazman on October 27, 2011, 09:23:33 pm
No the cab corner is fine ,on the door it is by the handle and mirror.On the front panel it has yet to show that bad.By keeping it waxed it looks very good.The part of the truck that has been repainted is the drivers side after an accident.