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Title: Wax
Post by: Tazman on March 07, 2012, 12:43:49 pm
I would opinions on the best wax to use,I know opinions do vary.I like Mequirs and am currently using #26.Aguy who has a show truck told me this is a hard wax so it will last longer than most others.Thanks
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: DustyRusty on March 07, 2012, 04:53:49 pm
Well, opinions will vary.  I have used Meguires and like it.  It's probably old school but I really like the old Blue Coral paste wax w/ carnuba.  Hard to put on and buff off but it looks good and lasts 3-6 months.  I have also used silicone waxes with good results.  IMO, the silicone waxes might last a little longer than some of the others.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 1980c10 on March 07, 2012, 11:11:08 pm
I've had good luck with Meguires NXT in the liquid form. It is quick and easy to apply. It gives the truck a little bit of a wet look. I apply it often as I like the freshly waxed look.  I usually wax it right after every wash which happens about once a month and I use the meguires spray detailer pretty much whenever the truck comes out of the garage.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on March 08, 2012, 03:14:40 am
I also use Meguiars NXT liquid wax on mine, and everytime I wash with NXT carwash, I detail it with NXT detailing spray.  I only wax it before and after winter, and just use the detailing spray in between, other than I regularly was under the gas filler where gas spills.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: bake74 on March 08, 2012, 05:22:41 am
     What's wax ?  ;D  I thought you just drove it until it needed new paint.  LOL
     I prefer Meguiars also, as far as soaps go, there is a big difference in types of soap, weather they are harsh on wax or not, so you need to do some research on this.
     Most of the time manufactures of wax have done the research and match soap to wax already.  Though with a little of your own research you can find something cheaper that will work just as good and not harm the wax, if you are willing to do a little leg work yourself.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 1980c10 on March 08, 2012, 01:42:23 pm
A fine grade steel wool works wonders on chrome, its really cheap and easy, doesn't even get a rag dirty.

At the begining of summer(I store the truck through winter) I will use dish soap and a clay bar to clean up the paint. Then I will buff any light scratches with a medium cut polish, followed by a fine cut over the rest of the body and glass. Then I will follow that up with a wet NXT wax removed with the buffer. The dishsoap removes a lot of the wax, so I only use it before a buff.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: IdahoMan on June 23, 2014, 03:44:56 pm
I'm looking for a good, safe washing liquid and wax too.  I got my vehicle painted 2 years ago and have not waxed it yet. It has to be parked in the open, and there are scumbag pigeons around here.  >:(

Protection is a bog thing with me. Should I wax the truck, or just stick to washing it?  What's a good tried and true wax brand/title?

What's this: http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-paint-guard-plus-4.html


Sincerely,
IdahoMan
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: bake74 on June 23, 2014, 06:47:22 pm

What's this: http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-paint-guard-plus-4.html


Sincerely,
IdahoMan

     I would say in your situation, this would be a no.  You have not waxed it in 2 years.  I am no expert in this field.  But my limited expertise is that waxing your vehicle helps to restore your clear coat and it's protective coating.
     If a paint job has lost it's clear coat it would degrade by the UV rays rapidly, Maybe someone who makes a living in this field can chime in.  I suck really at waxing my vehicles.  I pay someone to do it.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: IdahoMan on June 23, 2014, 07:24:12 pm
You are not to wax a newly painted car. It has to cure.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: bake74 on June 24, 2014, 06:39:38 pm
You are not to wax a newly painted car. It has to cure.

     For 2 years ?   ???
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: IdahoMan on July 05, 2014, 04:46:22 pm

Well, one things for certain: Forget retail stores.  They don't carry anything you are looking for.  Will have to look online... well, provided the site actually wants to sell you their freaking product! They don't show the price... or don't have an address to contact them at..  This isn't limited to just car wax either.  Please, make it impossible to find the simplest product!

I can't find any carnauba wax.  The retail stores only carry the in-your-face brand names that always have "cleaner" or "plus" in their names. Cleaners aren't good for the paint and "plus" means there's some kind of synthetic like silicone in it.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: winky on July 05, 2014, 05:39:47 pm
     What's wax ?  ;D  I thought you just drove it until it needed new paint.  LOL
     I prefer Meguiars also, as far as soaps go, there is a big difference in types of soap, weather they are harsh on wax or not, so you need to do some research on this.
     Most of the time manufactures of wax have done the research and match soap to wax already.  Though with a little of your own research you can find something cheaper that will work just as good and not harm the wax, if you are willing to do a little leg work yourself.

bake is dead on right here. PLEASE do NOT use dish soap on vehicles..... thats almost the worst  possible thing to use on a waxed vehicle. in my opinion the best type of wax depends on what your trying to accomplish. paint job fine? just want to protect it? almost any wax (some last longer than others) trying to take care of some scratches? extra cut compound with a wool pad and then "perfect it" swirl remover using a foam pad. there are different options that work best for different scenarios. i personally like the compound that 3m just came out with its a single stage compound (you can use it for cutting or just polishing) it is very easy to use and it eliminates all the different compounds you need if your trying to cut trash or runs out, ill try to remember to get the part # and name monday. Another one i like is turtle wax black magic. If you have a Black vehicle or dark color vehicle it helps hide scratches and if you use a buffer it really looks like a new paint job. I use that on all the dark vehicles we repair panels on that way the custom doesn't have a shiny door and a dull back door.

As far as new paint goes we usually tell people to wait at least a week to start buffing (thats here in alabama where is 80-95 degrees most of the year) New paint that hasn't fully cured yet is still "soft" and is very easy to scratch (microfiber towels will scratch it :/) and it is also very easy to "burn" with a buffer. Not to mention you still have solvents and chemicals coming out of the paint that you dont want to cap in.

Hopefully you can read all this jibberish and it will help someone :D
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: winky on July 05, 2014, 05:46:31 pm
its called jet black my bad.
http://www.turtlewax.com/products/black-car-care

heres the 3M. i normally dont use the swirl remover with it. guess it just depends on how well you buff.

http://3mcollision.com/products/featured-products/perfect-it-one?utm_source=collision&utm_medium=categpry_landing_spiff&utm_content=Position_bott&utm_campaign=on_site_tracking
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: roger97338 on July 08, 2014, 04:13:53 am
     For 2 years ?   ???

(http://i.imgur.com/U81h4Po.jpg) (http://imgur.com/U81h4Po)
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: IdahoMan on July 19, 2014, 03:51:11 pm
Well, the only thing I can find locally is "Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus Paste Wax".

The container CLAIMS it is safe for all paint types, but it also says it "removes swirls". Whatever that means. Bravado or is their some kind of abrasive in the product that their not telling us about?

And why does it say -in bold- "KEEP OFF RUBBER, VINYL & PLASTIC"? Just looks bad or is damaging?
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: bd on July 19, 2014, 04:11:19 pm
Mothers website:

Amazon Retailer:
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on July 19, 2014, 11:17:51 pm
removes swirls means its abraisive...

I always use meguiars...  has always worked for me... 

I use Meguiars NXT Tech wax, and the shampoo and detailer that goes with it...  No problems, beads n shines no matter what, and i only wax my truck myself every 18 mos or so...

Also I use a machine car wash but hand drying place every two weeks or so,,  hasnt caught up with me yet...

Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on July 19, 2014, 11:18:33 pm
If ANY PRODUCT SAYS IT REMOVES (whatever)  it is abrasive and removes layers of the finish also.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on July 19, 2014, 11:21:48 pm
I use swirl-x...  a light abrasive, on anything that stains my paint...  but the polish n wax i use dont claim to remove anything, only replenish oils or protect top coat. 

If it claims to remove anything it's abraisive and will remove layers from your paintjob.

I only use swirl-x on spot problems, never over the whole truck...

then meguiars polish and NXT 2.0 wax and car wash...

Meguiars has kept my teuck looking like this since 2008.

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t195/wes2880/78%20C20%20-After%20New%20Wheels/MainPic.jpg) (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/wes2880/media/78%20C20%20-After%20New%20Wheels/MainPic.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: Tazman on July 20, 2014, 12:57:24 am
Your tuck looks great but I wax mine almost monthly mainly because I drive it daily so it gets a lot of sun to it. Our sun here can really damage paint if you do take care of it. I also use mostly Megiurs, it works very well.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: roger97338 on July 24, 2014, 09:07:18 pm
Well, the only thing I can find locally is "Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus Paste Wax".

The container CLAIMS it is safe for all paint types, but it also says it "removes swirls". Whatever that means. Bravado or is their some kind of abrasive in the product that their not telling us about?

And why does it say -in bold- "KEEP OFF RUBBER, VINYL & PLASTIC"? Just looks bad or is damaging?

It doesn't damage rubber, vinyl and plastic. But, applying it to those surfaces doesn't provide any benefits to them. By that I mean that waxing something made from those materials isn't going to make it shiny, nor is it going to cause water to bead up and roll off. It also means that you should avoid getting wax on those materials because it isn't easy to remove from them.

If it's going to be difficult to keep wax off of something, like a strip of plastic body moulding, you can tape it off with some masking tape. Another trick is to use a protectant (such as Armor-All) on the plastics before you wax. That's worked well for me in the past.

Actually, I'm not going to try to seem like an expert and make the claim that waxes absolutely will not cause damage to rubber vinyl and plastic. I've not read or heard of a car wax causing any sort of catastrophic failure to those materials, but I've seen first hand what plastic body moulding can look like if someone grinds a bunch of wax into it with a random orbital buffer.
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: IdahoMan on August 09, 2014, 02:59:49 am

Well thanks everybody.

I ordered some Mothers 05550 California Gold Pure Brazilian Carnauba Wax Paste - 12 oz (Ultimate Wax System, Step 3) from sumitracing and just waxed my truck last night. I am pleased.

Also discovered that it isn't the pigeons but the HoneyBees that are leaving droppings on my truck.  :o

(http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images/bmw2b.jpg)



Title: Re: Wax
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on August 09, 2014, 03:07:40 am
i think mainly it doesn't matter the brand so much, but how often you put the EFFORT in...
Title: Re: Wax
Post by: roger97338 on August 17, 2014, 04:30:18 am
Would one of you please buy this wax (http://www.zymol.com/zymolroyaleglaze44oz.aspx (http://www.zymol.com/zymolroyaleglaze44oz.aspx)) and let me borrow it?