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Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 20, 2012, 06:05:01 pm
I'm planning on building my stepside 82 c10 to autocross with just for something different mostly. I have flipped the rear axle and cut the front springs and planning on using 1 ton sway bars front and back. What other suspension mods could I do to help me out I'm gonna build this through the winter and run it in the autocross club at my school. I might also once in a while run this truck at the track too but most time just autocross. I wanna keep it static drop. I am running a fuel injected 350 mild build on it and trans has a full manual valve body. I am planning on running some Hoosier on it for tires. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: gildardo01 on November 21, 2012, 07:17:45 am
i really canīt help you... but sure am interested in what people have to say about the topic... i also have a step side... and wouldnīt mind smoother turns... i was reading this article once and got some ideas from it... check it out.. http://www.customclassictrucks.com/featuredvehicles/0709cct_1974_chevy_c10/viewall.html
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 26, 2012, 06:14:55 pm
ya that does make me wonder i got this posted on another forum too Fullsizechevy.com and I'm gettin little bit of help there not much just got one guy trying to talk me out of it and another guy telling me its all bout tires so i don't know much bout that I'm hoping for some help here where its all bout these square nose beauties
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: zieg85 on November 26, 2012, 06:34:09 pm
I have a co-worker who autocross's a 70 Camaro.  I can't imagine our trucks corner worth a darn without stiffening the frame and heavy sway bars, and yes sticky tires are a must.  He runs a 4 speed and has a ball.  He use to run a powerglide and actually did better but it wasn't as fun.  Sounds like a worthwhile project.
Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: SchneidR on November 26, 2012, 06:35:51 pm
Actually this is my plans for my 81 stepper:). I've already done 3"ds and flip with beltech antiroll bars, in the future I would have done new control arms with new bushings, but I did press new ball joints in upper and lower while I was at it.


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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 26, 2012, 06:52:15 pm
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=419251

this is a thread that i was told about lot of information took me a while to get thru it lots of info for the front suspension of these trucks.
 
SchneidR have you started yours if so any tips I have already flipped my rear end and cut the stock coils im gonna get a set of drop spindles too and get it a little lower. I picked up some sway bars from a one ton truck and gonna bolt up in the front not sure what im gonna do bout the rear yet tho.

Im gonna run 15" rims probably 8-10" wide not sure yet with some ashplat race tires should be pretty sticky for what im gonna do if not i can always get some deals on tires. ill got a pic of what i got done so far.
Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: SchneidR on November 26, 2012, 07:46:35 pm
Nice, mines a 3/5,  I don't like to cut up stock coils though, others say different, but that's jut me.  Can't go lower in the rear without cutting frame, but why would you want to do that.  I'll probably go back to my stock 15"s but I hear different widths, wider in the rear is not the way to go as it will be harder to turn.
Right now I have 20"s love the look though(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/27/ysate8yz.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 26, 2012, 07:57:02 pm
That's a dang good looking truck i got rid of the stock bump stops I'm gonna run some progressive bump stops and maybe notch the frame some still not sure yet i gotta swap in my engine and trans yet and run my wiring.  i rebuilt the rear end with a LSD and 4.10 gears so it should scoot pretty good. I'm trying to find out more info on running tires and what not I'm gonna stick with 15" rims proably 8-10" wide. i found some Bart racing wheels ill proably run with it and looking at some Hoosier tires so who knows how that will work out for me i got some nice curves they just asphalted by me so i will have to test it out on those first to see.
Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: SchneidR on November 26, 2012, 08:15:49 pm
Nice, yeah I want to do a ls1/t56 swap at some point right now I just got a good reliable fast little 305/and rare MY7 manual


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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 26, 2012, 08:28:13 pm
Ya i looked into doin the ls1 and that but the cost for me is just kinda too much.
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: bake74 on November 26, 2012, 08:56:24 pm
Nice, yeah I want to do a ls1/t56 swap at some point right now I just got a good reliable fast little 305/and rare MY7 manual

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     SchneidR, I am not sure what a my7 TRANS is ?  Did you perhaps mean an my6 which is a 4 speed with overdrive ?
Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: SchneidR on November 26, 2012, 10:03:22 pm
Nope my7, it was a heavy duty trans built for 1 ton trucks I believe, a very stout trans. But yeah it's a 4 with overdrive.  I've had a couple of guys on the forum and at the shops that have told me this.


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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: gildardo01 on November 27, 2012, 06:21:06 am
ya that does make me wonder i got this posted on another forum too Fullsizechevy.com and I'm gettin little bit of help there not much just got one guy trying to talk me out of it and another guy telling me its all bout tires so i don't know much bout that I'm hoping for some help here where its all bout these square nose beauties
why is there a guy trying to talk you out of it.... i dont fee a downfall in making any vehicle handle better....
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: 84burb on November 27, 2012, 08:51:37 am
Don't forget a good set of shocks. You will have to research and decide which ones will work within your budget, but adjustable Konis work nice.
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: blazing816 on November 27, 2012, 09:49:03 am
If you really want handling I would go with a 4 link setup in the back with coilovers and a sway bar. I would get rid on the stock springs and put coilovers in there also with a swaybar. Also if your looking at better turning the stock steering could be upgraded to b e more responsive and I would differently get rid of the the rag joint on the intermediate steering shaft those do not take much abuse. Thats just my opinion.
Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: SchneidR on November 27, 2012, 03:28:13 pm
Not talking anything down, just a opinion.  Yeah coilovers like QA1's would be ideal, just wish I would have done some modular control arms though, but that's another 1k :). It ads up quick, just depends how deep your pockets are.  There was a guy running 10" wides all around and he said it was amazing, but yeah shocks are very key too.  On the subject of 4 link setups, what do you guys use?  I was looking into those to so it would stop side-side movement play.


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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: bake74 on November 27, 2012, 04:36:34 pm
Nope my7, it was a heavy duty trans built for 1 ton trucks I believe, a very stout trans. But yeah it's a 4 with overdrive.  I've had a couple of guys on the forum and at the shops that have told me this.


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     That is good to know, must be my7 is stouter than the my6.
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 27, 2012, 07:25:52 pm
is there any bolt on kits for a 4 link rear with coil overs and if so what kinda fab work and cost would be assoicated with it i have a job as a machinist now and can use the shop i work at to do fab work on my truck during the weekends, and how hard is it to do coilovers on the front of these trucks any sort of bracing i can do to stiffen up the frame without adding too much weight.
Title: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: SchneidR on November 27, 2012, 08:05:38 pm
Well to make coilovers possible you would have to have custom upper and lower arms to have the right brackets an the rear you would have to convert to a trailing arm system to do away with the leafs, and as far as a easy 4 link, I've only seen universal ones that you cut to fit.


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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 27, 2012, 08:16:18 pm
ive been looking around online could i buy a 4 link kit for the rear then just modify to fit coil overs instead of bags and with the front would it have to be custom or could i buy new upper and lowers and modify is there a way to mount the coilovers in the original spring pockets and mount to the lower control arm or would that be too short. im tryin to think outside the box here and figure something different out. or even run coilovers in the rear and do a bag set up in the front and play with the air pressure to get it set up
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 29, 2012, 06:03:57 pm
well looks like for time being gonna just run coils springs in front and leafs in the rear with a front sway bar then add a rear later on if it needs it right now I'm moving weight from the front to the back by relocating the battery and pulling bunch of extra stuff i don't need from the engine compartment and the interior.
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: Captkaos on November 29, 2012, 06:29:23 pm
Several companies offer control arms to use coil overs.
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 29, 2012, 07:16:54 pm
which companies cause i look on google and stuff and havent been able to find anything bout it
Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: VileZambonie on November 29, 2012, 07:40:53 pm
Reduce unsprung weight and Oversteer, upgrade your suspension with good coil over shocks, tighten up the front end, reduce front end weight, modify the rear suspension, good tires. Drop spindles, tubular A-arms, sway bars the sky is the limit but what kind of budget do you have?

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which companies cause i look on google and stuff and havent been able to find anything bout it

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Title: Re: 1982 c10 stepside autocross?
Post by: stepsideguy82 on November 29, 2012, 08:39:09 pm
im in college at UNOH and i work fulltime i can afford some here and there. I wanna do cheap stuff first tho but same time dont wanna do something then have to change it all up. Alot of the work i can do at work too i have a full machine shop at my disposal on the weekends.  If i run some good drop springs, shocks, redo all the bushings in the suspension and some heavy sway bars can i get a good start on it. I have found some tires im gonna look at on 17s which are little bigger rim than i wanted to go but if i can get a good price ill probably pick them up. They are some dunlops cant remember the size im gonna go check them out this weekend. Whats gonna be the best bet for reducing my unsprung weight? Im a newbie to this whole autocross deal i have done drag racing and mud racing just wanting something different. The school offers this as a club and all i have seen is imports and then just some jank vehicles running around this course.