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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Brakes, Frame, Steering & Suspension => The Highs (Raising/Lifts) => Topic started by: TOMMYCROW44 on January 02, 2013, 12:36:42 pm
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I HAVE A 77 K10 THAT I HAVE PURCHACED A 6 INCH ROUGH COUNTRY LIFT KIT FOR AND SOME 38 INCH SUPER SWAMPER BOGGERS. I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE HAS THE SAME SET UP AND IF THEY HAVE RAN INTO ISSUES IF ANY? THE KIT AND WHEELS WILL BE GETTING INSTALLED IN A WEEK AND A HALF.
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Mine runs on forties, 38's on 6 inches is tight, depending on how much articulation youre have in your suspension going hard offroad won't be a option. Are you getting all 6 inches from spring lift? If so add a 3' body lift and those tires won't be so angry with the fenders.
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SHE'S NOT GOING TO SEE TO MUCH WHEELING JUST MOSTLY CAMPING TRIPS AND AN OCCATIONAL MOUNTAIN SNOW TRIP THE LIFT CONSISTS OF SPRINGS UP FRONT AND 4 INCH BLOCKS WITH AN ADD A LEAF IN THE REAR, IVE HEARD I HAVE TO TRIM THE FENDERS SO IM KINDA WAITING TO SEE HOW MUCH. HAVE YOU HAD ANY ISSUES WITH DEATH WOBBLES?
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ALSO IF ANY ONE HAS HAD ISSUES WITH BRAKE LINE RELOCATIONS, THEY HAVE SOME BRACKETS IN THE KIT, ARE THOSE ANY GOOD?
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ALSO IF ANY ONE HAS HAD ISSUES WITH BRAKE LINE RELOCATIONS, THEY HAVE SOME BRACKETS IN THE KIT, ARE THOSE ANY GOOD?
If you are talking about the small bracket at the rear differential...yes it will work. You may have to replace the rear wheel cylinder lines to reach though.
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No death wobble here, I have a dana 60 with a 2wd steering box and a crossover steering setup. That type of wobble is associated with improper castor/camber issues (not being aligned right). 38's on 1/2 ton axles are really to much for the stock brake setup however there are alot of people who do it, just make sure you back up your stopping distance. The brake line reroute is pretty straight forward.
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THAMKS FOR THE ADVICE! YOU HEAR HORROR STORIES FROM SOME GUYS AND NOTHING BUT GREAT REVIEWS FROM OTHERS. I'LL POST SOME BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS ONCE THE KIT GETS HERE.
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SO THE LIFT KIT WILL BE HERE TODAY AND INSTALLED ON SUNDAY ;D AGAIN I'LL POST SOME BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES, WISH ME LUCK. ALSO I LIVE IN WASHINGTON DOES ANY ONE KNOW THE MUDFLAP LAWS?
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Lift kit just showed up and sunday is the first day off so wish me luck. 8)
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Good Luck!
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Start early in the morning LOL!!
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HE IS SOME PICTURES BEAR WITH ME IM TRYING TO GET THEM LOADED 8)
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How do you post pics it keeps telling me the file is to big?
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There is a post in the Tech section on how to resize photos to fit. They need to be a jpg or tiff image and need to be around 800x600 resolution.
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I would be extremely surprised if your 6" lift is compatable with 38" tires.
Washington Mud-flap law is that the mudflap must cover the entire width of the tread and come down to the centerline of the axle (I'm in WA too).
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The lift went on in about 4 hours and the 38's fit great, I thought for sure I would have some trimming to do but to my surprise the tires clear both ways at full locks. So around corners I went and up some inclines and still no rub. I'm sure the springs will settle after time so I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. I thank you for the mudflap update, those are going on this weekend. the steering got a little looser that it was, anyone have a fix for that? Still trying to figure out the pics. :-\
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Here's those pics finally ;D I'm 5'9 so the truck sits pretty high!
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I see a cracked frame at your steering box in the future. Best put on a bolt-in brace soon. I guess it depends on what you use your truck for. My 1-ton frame cracked at the box and I had to grind and weld it up, then I also put on the bolt-on steering brace. I have had no issues so far. I also have cross-over steering.
I have 8" of lift and I think I would rub 38's pretty good, but then it comes down to how you use your truck.
The steering might just be geometry issues. You may have a little bit of bump-steer now. The bigger tires are also going to be harder on your wheel bearings and steering joints, so be prepared to replace that stuff at some point and keep an eye on it. Also...make sure you check the torque on all of that suspension stuff periodically while it is new. The last thing you want is something coming loose or heaven forbid...coming apart!
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Looks good...so did you go full spring or blocks in the rear?
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I have ordered the steering brace already, and will bring it back in the shop every couple weeks to torque things down, good call on all that! The wheel bearings and ball joints seem tight now but I have already started budgeting for that issue. i don't hard mud in the truck especially with these half ton axles. and it's add a leaf and 4 inch block in the rear.
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you might want to look into getting extended brake lines, the way you did it isnt really the safest way. in my opinion
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you might want to look into getting extended brake lines, the way you did it isnt really the safest way. in my opinion
I have bought some stock lines and am in the process of having them extended at a local hose place. BUT VERY TRUE NOT SAFE
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*******retighten your u bolts every 1000 miles up to 5000 miles there are know canidates for stretching/loosening********** Nice job!
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I rocked 8" springs and 38.5 tsl's and I could still get the fenders to meet tires. 6" and 38's rubbed when I turned into a parking spot. Your springs will settle. Looks good. Nice rig.
When it comes to brake lines, I've found a cheaper route. I've used this on several of my previous trucks.
Copied from one of my posts from another forum:
Also, for anyone lifting a 73-87 or 73-91 square body, I have rediscovered some intel that helps in terms of extended brake line hoses. The stock hoses in the front are roughly 19" long. With 6" lift springs, the hoses will be too short. But, there's a trick to this.
If you buy stock hoses for a 94 K3500 Dually, the front hoses are roughly 6" longer and with all the same fittings. Costs about $20-25 each side. The rear one is actually shorter than a SRW one, so I would buy the rear hose off a SRW 94 K3500.
Lift companies sell them for more than double the price. Just a little trick I used on my previous build that worked perfectly for me.
NAPA part numbers:
UP38622 Left front hose SRW 22.5"
UP380519 Left front hose DRW 21"
UP38623 Right front hose SRW 22.5"
UP380518 Right front hose DRW 21"
UP38823 Rear hose DRW 21.375"
UP38624 Rear hose SRW 17.375"
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Thanks for the insite on the brake hoses, that will save a few coins. I'm sure these springs will settle, at that time I will probley move down to a 36 or 37 inch tire cause the boggers I have now are NOISEY! I have been looking for something a little more street friendly.
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How many "inches" tall are your 38 inch tires? My forties run about 39" when new.
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The tires are 37 inches tall inflated.
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I would be extremely surprised if your 6" lift is compatable with 38" tires.
Washington Mud-flap law is that the mudflap must cover the entire width of the tread and come down to the centerline of the axle (I'm in WA too).
Do you know any 4x4 tracks out here in washington that are still open?
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I rocked 8" springs and 38.5 tsl's and I could still get the fenders to meet tires. 6" and 38's rubbed when I turned into a parking spot. Your springs will settle. Looks good. Nice rig.
When it comes to brake lines, I've found a cheaper route. I've used this on several of my previous trucks.
Copied from one of my posts from another forum:
Also, for anyone lifting a 73-87 or 73-91 square body, I have rediscovered some intel that helps in terms of extended brake line hoses. The stock hoses in the front are roughly 19" long. With 6" lift springs, the hoses will be too short. But, there's a trick to this.
If you buy stock hoses for a 94 K3500 Dually, the front hoses are roughly 6" longer and with all the same fittings. Costs about $20-25 each side. The rear one is actually shorter than a SRW one, so I would buy the rear hose off a SRW 94 K3500.
Lift companies sell them for more than double the price. Just a little trick I used on my previous build that worked perfectly for me.
NAPA part numbers:
UP38622 Left front hose SRW 22.5"
UP380519 Left front hose DRW 21"
UP38623 Right front hose SRW 22.5"
UP380518 Right front hose DRW 21"
UP38823 Rear hose DRW 21.375"
UP38624 Rear hose SRW 17.375"
Blue...thanks for the info..will definately use this once its lift time ie,$$$$ Tommy...High steer/crossover kit is highly recommended. I didn't se one here (chris correct me if I'm wrong) but check out www.ord.com They have a lot that will help the horrible factory geometry.
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X2 on cross over steering. It turns your truck into a turning champ.
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Well Washington is a big state. I'm 40 minutes North of Seattle. By 'tracks' to you actually mean 'tracks'? or are you looking for snow-wheeling? The only track anywhere near me that I know of is Straddleline ORV Park near McCleary.
I would be extremely surprised if your 6" lift is compatable with 38" tires.
Washington Mud-flap law is that the mudflap must cover the entire width of the tread and come down to the centerline of the axle (I'm in WA too).
Do you know any 4x4 tracks out here in washington that are still open?
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Already been answered but I'm running 37"s boggers with 6" susp lift and 3" body lift. When I first got the tires I had 4" susp lift and 2" body lift... Never scrubbed and I put her threw some rough stuff.
(http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj582/josh_brooks2/293D329D-95AD-48C6-9229-6EB7050818E5-1304-0000017098A0EA18.jpg)
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Winky...when I first looked at the pic u just posted I felt a little sick to my stomach and didn't know why..until I looked in the back ground of that pic. You know that if you park those things next to good trucks their problems start rubbing off. But don't get me wrong I will still beat it like the Red-headed ford it is.
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LOL my buddies truck. He's hoping my Chevy will rub off some it's built right dust on his truck
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I'd like to have that wheel and tire combo rub off on my truck.atleast the wheels maybe smaller tires bc this is my DD.
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Another question, if i perform the rear shackle flip kit that should give me anothe 4 inches in the rear, right? and then some 10 inch springs in the front. I lifted it not even a month ago but lifting is like horse power you can never get enough. plus i want to buy new tires so i was thinkinking why not some 40's or bigger.
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Easy Turbo......... LOL Big rubber is nice just keep in mind usually all of the other drivetrain componets have to be changed. Shackle flips are good inexpensive lift alternatives. However the real challenge is getting correct geometry in the front axle.
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Not to mention that 40's on 1/2 ton axles is a recipe for failure :(. I ran a D60/14bolt combo under my last Blazer and I was spinning 36" Boggers. Lots of fun and wheeled the heck out of it before I sold it to a friend in Colorado.