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Title: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on January 20, 2014, 04:10:01 pm
Hi all,

I'm thinking of taking a holiday over the pond to peruse your country!

The last time I was there I took a cruise from Miami and on return spent a week nr South Beach so saw next to nothing!!

This time I'd like to see some of the "real" sights.

Where would you suggest? Preferably warmer parts with sunshine but not ridiculously hot as my lil un (5yrs) will be with me.

Your thoughts please to where in the great US I should start.

Cheers

Andy
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bake74 on January 20, 2014, 07:11:23 pm
     What are you looking for to see ?  Which coast or border do you want to travel to.  Are you going to stick with Florida ?
     Depends on what you want to do, there is a lot to do and choices for the different parts of the US.  If you narrowed down what you want to accomplish while on vacation, I am sure we can help you find what you are looking for. 
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: dvdswan on January 20, 2014, 08:01:50 pm
as bake74 said, what are your interests? are you looking for history, scenery, adventure?
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: VileZambonie on January 20, 2014, 08:18:43 pm
Google visit USA or USA points of interest. If you're bringing your kid you can't go wrong with Disney and the like but you can go broke $$
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bd on January 20, 2014, 08:35:19 pm
What time of year?  How long will you be here?  Shoestring, lavish or in between?
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Jason S on January 21, 2014, 09:58:40 am
What time of year?  How long will you be here?  Shoestring, lavish or in between?

Real sites?   There are always the National and State Parks.  Something like Palo Duro Canyon in the Texas Panhandle is spectacular and you won't be broke after visiting. Then there is White Sands in New Mexico or a road trip along Route 66 or places like Yellowstone or Glacier National Park.

Another idea is in and around San Antonio, Texas there are numerous historical sites (inc. the Alamo), old settlements (Fredricksburg), amusement parks, rivers to swim and float, wineries and breweries, etc.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on January 21, 2014, 12:33:55 pm
The problem I'm having is your country is sooo big!
I'm possibly thinking August possibly 3 weeks. Nothing lavish but not licking grit.

Think it'll have to be the East Coast as while I'm over I might be looking for suitable vehicles to import/export ;)

If I can persuade the Missus we'll leave Disney for another couple of years. I'm thinking 7-8 yr old would get more for my money than a 6yr old (she'll be 6 in Aug) and she'll be able to last the full day!

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Blazin on January 21, 2014, 01:00:50 pm
I would say Grand Canyon, but your sticking to the east coast.
 New England is very historical. A lot of things to do, & see. Not sure what is taught in school about the revolutionary war on that side of the pond, but I would think it would be very interesting to get a glimpse of that history from the other side of the story. Boston area is very historical, plus its not far from the beautiful White mountains of New Hampshire, or the lush green mountains of Vermont, or the Maine sea coast.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on January 22, 2014, 03:41:49 pm

Blazin' - here is where I really show my ignorance! Are the White Mountains snow/ice white or is it chalk etc? Are there any good/bad months? And how good/clean are the 73-79 squares there!

We get taught very little of the American history over here unless it's taken as an option subject at 14 years of age. I hated history at "skool" but the older I get the more I want to know about the past  ::)

The biggest thing I struggle to come to terms with is the size of the US. In the UK I can drive from one end of the country to the other in 1x day.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Boone83K10 on January 22, 2014, 03:54:42 pm
Almost all vehicles on the east coast are in rougher shape than the west coast. Anything in the "Rust Belt" aka New England, Mid-Atlantic heck even the South really have rust/issues. Get a vehicle from the dry climate of the west coast and its a much better vehicle to start out with.


Yes, most of ya'll ain't got no idea how big we is over here...... MURICA!!


that was a joke, I am not a racist Southerner. My grandfather is from the North Yorkshire area. He was born right before WWII. The stories he can tell us. He went to college in Leeds and came to the US in 1964 as an architect, his first assignment was in Boone, NC of all places. Ha!
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Captkaos on January 22, 2014, 08:45:05 pm
Ideally if I was looking for a truck of that vintage in good shape I would look in Texas/Arkansas/Arizona area.  Texas is HUGE, but there are A LOT of trucks there.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bake74 on January 22, 2014, 10:40:39 pm
     Not that I am trying to tell you where to go, but if you are looking for trucks that are rust free.  #1: Arizona, especially if the truck has been there all it's life.  #2: Northern to mid California.  (Southern California and the cities by the coast, to much salt in the air from the ocean ).  Texas is big and has a lot of trucks, but also has rust issues, I have looked almost all over Texas while I lived in Oklahoma.
     Craigslist is a great tool, you can look from anywhere, and the best part is, I bet no matter what city you find a truck in, I bet there is someone on this forum that lives close enough to look at it for you if you asked.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Irish_Alley on January 22, 2014, 11:14:24 pm
im in maryland/delaware now and im looking for a newer truck i have a rule it has to come form the south, south/west is better but nothing above Maryland and nothing in the mountains around here. seen some trucks from New york and the frames are rusted bad and are the only thing holding it together is the rust. but that being said the mountains do have some nice caverns to see and hot water springs
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: ehjorten on January 23, 2014, 09:34:58 am
If I was you I would want to see the Great Plains and the 'Wild West'!  But...that is just me...I am country guy!  Mount Rushmore and the new Crazy Horse Monument that they are in the process of building!  Wild Bison!  In Nevada you have the Comstock and Virginia City, Bucket of Blood Saloon, etc!  Northern California you have the Redwoods...trees as thick as your house is wide!  Then of course there is the Great Columbia River...My hometown of course...Astoria!  ;)  Arizona and the Grand Canyon...the new Skywalk where you can walk out over the canyon on a gigantic horse-shoe shaped glass walkway!  Yellowstone in Wyoming!!

Man...I don't mean to offend any East Coasters, but I'd do the Western States myself!
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Jason S on January 23, 2014, 12:52:48 pm
Bitzer!,

If you haven't already considered it, one thing you may look at when planning a location is high heat and/or humidity in August.   Northern latitudes and/or higher elevations (mountains) can be much more pleasant in August as compared to many southern or coastal areas.   

As for trucks: I'll add that the Texas Panhandle, West Texas, western Oklahoma and New Mexico have lots of rust free trucks.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bd on January 23, 2014, 08:13:50 pm
I've lived here all my life and I haven't seen the entire Country - LOL!  Yet unmentioned are Yosemite in California, Zion just North of the Grand Canyon and the surrounding Anasazi canyon dwellings, the nearby Meteor Crater, and Niagara Falls in New York....  There are thousands of choices in the State and National Park systems combined!  Not to mention theme parks and historic sites.  Far too many places of interest for any given trip.  There are very few areas of the Country that don't have something unique and scenic and satisfying to offer.  Because of the sheer number of choices, perhaps you should determine early on whether you are vacationing to search for future projects or sight-see.  Three weeks really isn't sufficient time to do both and feel completely satisfied about either.  Otherwise, time spent popping about will consume most of your vacation and leave you and your family feeling frazzled rather than rejuvenated and excited to return later.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on January 29, 2014, 02:52:09 am
So after a lot of googleing and questioning it looks like I'm leaning towards the West Coast.

Now the decision is, do we stay in one area or spend 3/4 days and move on without rushing things.

I'm now researching the numerous national parks etc who'd have thought planning a holiday is so time consuming! I'm not one for the "package" deal as i feel it doesn't give you chance to see the real country, you only see what they want you to see and take your hard earned.

Andy
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: dvdswan on January 31, 2014, 10:44:25 am
So after a lot of googleing and questioning it looks like I'm leaning towards the West Coast.

Now the decision is, do we stay in one area or spend 3/4 days and move on without rushing things.


I'm hoping this is 3 or 4 days and not almost one day.  west coast is a great choice.  how many days total are you planning in the US?

Nat'l Parks have tons to offer and the scenery is really something you think is only in magazines.  be sure to have back up cameras and memory cards.  time of year is a big deal as well.  as weather warms the parks get pack and some parks will allow only so many vehicles in a day.

there are also many scenic byways in the west coast as well and some are not "used" because of interstates.  RTE 66 is the most famous but there are serveral in CA. 

ghost towns are another attraction, gold, silver, and copper were big in the 1800s and towns popped up everywhere.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bake74 on January 31, 2014, 08:40:24 pm
So after a lot of googleing and questioning it looks like I'm leaning towards the West Coast.
Andy

     Andy, I would be lacking if I did not tell you about "Calaveras Big Trees State Park", truly one of the best places on the west coast to visit.  Here is a link for you to read up on it and a couple of quotes that I find to be fascinating.
 
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=25135

The biggest trees are truly big—250 to 300 feet high and 25 to 30 feet across. And they’re ancient—2,000 to 3,000 years old. The trees are relics from a warmer and wetter climate and time, the Mesozoic Era, some 180 million years ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

The park has some great campgrounds and picnic areas, A gentle one mile trail meanders through the grove, leading to such grand sequoia specimens as Abraham Lincoln, Siamese Twins, Empire State and Father of the Forest.

     I have been several times, by myself and with visiting family members, and I never get tired or amazed of the beauty, your children will love it.

                                                        Tom
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on February 01, 2014, 10:44:20 am
 :o
Well - it appears the search for a 3+3 over there may be on hold. I may have found a '90 that may just do the job 60 miles from me in the UK!!

West coast is still more favorable, I like the idea of rambling down the old routes rather than the main highways.

So how far would I travel in 18 days? Allowing 2-3 days at a stop.

If I started in the top end of Cali and went south where are the en-route stops?
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: dvdswan on February 01, 2014, 05:13:14 pm
you would have a very nice and scenic vacation with that much time... more importantly memorable.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Captkaos on February 03, 2014, 09:30:32 pm
Did you get the on you posted on Facebook?
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on February 04, 2014, 04:50:12 pm
Yes mate, I had to settle for a "new" one. Pre 80's are like rocking horse poo over here.
Rumour has it I can swap out the entire front clip for a '79 so I have two trucks looking the same?
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Captkaos on February 04, 2014, 05:30:32 pm
Yes you can swap it easily.  You just need everything forward the doors...
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bd on February 10, 2014, 03:50:14 am
:o
Well - it appears the search for a 3+3 over there may be on hold. I may have found a '90 that may just do the job 60 miles from me in the UK!!

West coast is still more favorable, I like the idea of rambling down the old routes rather than the main highways.

So how far would I travel in 18 days? Allowing 2-3 days at a stop.

If I started in the top end of Cali and went south where are the en-route stops?

Bitzer, do you like road trips?  I’ll try to provide some beta on where I would go and what I would do if I were ‘visiting’ California.  However, realize that late August/early September is the hottest, driest time of year here.  Still, on any given day there’s a wide range of temperature from place-to-place.  When Fresno (the approximate geographic center of California) is 107° F or hotter, San Francisco is in the high 60s, the Sierra Nevada Mountains above 6,500 feet (1,980 m) are in the mid 80s and Los Angeles is in the low 90s.  Bear with me....

Essentially, there are three north-south routes through California.  But, be advised, California is Big!  You’ll only scratch the surface of what California has to offer in two and a half weeks.  Your choices are nearly limitless with activities and sights for everyone, although you’ll not have time to achieve them all!

For a memorable first trip, I recommend that you create your own variation of the following itinerary:  Fly into Klamath Falls, Oregon (http://www.klamathfallsoregon.com/) for the evening.  Purchase a detailed road map.  Get an early morning start and drive north about 60 miles (97 km) to Crater Lake NP (http://www.nps.gov/crla/index.htm), a very picturesque, extinct volcano that cradles the deepest lake in the US at ~1,950 ft (595 m)).  Then, retracing your route back through Klamath Falls, drive 218 mi (350 km) south past Mount Shasta and Castle Crags State Park to Redding, California (http://visitredding.com/) for the night (~4 hrs, plus stops).  In the morning, head west on SR-299 toward Arcata, Eureka and the coast (~3 hrs).  Follow US 101 south from Eureka to its junction with SR-1 in the tiny settlement of Leggett.  Follow winding SR-1 south, taking your time to stop along the way and enjoy the many quaint towns, and occasional diversions to the beach, as it suits you.  Continue south over the Golden Gate Bridge into San Francisco.  Anticipate one to two days travel time between Eureka and San Francisco, depending on stops (~300 mi, 480 km).  Do your best to plan ahead for nightly accommodations.  The closer you are to San Francisco, the more lead time you’ll need to make reservations.

San Francisco offers all the amenities and adventures of any world class, cosmopolitan city.  Enjoy a few days roaming around and exploring.  Check out Chinatown (http://www.sanfranciscochinatown.com/), the Embarcadero (http://embarcaderocenter.com/), the Exploratorium (http://www.exploratorium.edu/), Fisherman’s Wharf (http://visitfishermanswharf.com/), Ghirardelli Square (http://www.ghirardellisq.com/), the California Academy of Sciences (http://www.calacademy.org/) and adjoining Golden Gate Park (http://www.golden-gate-park.com/).  Although pricey, San Francisco offers exquisite dinning, accommodations and entertainment.

Head east across the new Oakland Bay Bridge (http://baybridgeinfo.org/) then north and east on I-80, switching to US 50 in Sacramento (http://www.distancebetweencities.net/san-francisco_ca_and_south-lake-tahoe_ca/route), then on to South Lake Tahoe (http://www.visitinglaketahoe.com/) (~4 hrs plus stops).  You’re now at an elevation above 6,200 ft (1,890 m).  Slather on the ritual sunscreen and enjoy two or three days exploring the scenic and historic Tahoe/Reno/Carson City/Virginia City (http://www.visitvirginiacitynv.com/) area, rich in silver mining lore, “Old West” history and romance.  Take a tour of a silver mine and discover the Comstock Lode (http://www.vcnevada.com/history.htm).

Then, pack ample picnic supplies and head south along US 395, to about 3.5 mi (6 km) past the intriguing ‘moonscape’ of Mono Lake (http://www.americansouthwest.net/california/mono_lake/index.html) and Lee Vining, diverting southwest off of 395 for the day, around the June Lake (http://junelakeloop.com/) loop drive.  Return to US 395 and turn south to the mountain resort town of Mammoth (http://www.visitmammoth.com/), about 30 minutes away, for a restful night's sleep (~5 hrs total driving time, plus stops).  By this point you’ll be 9 - 10 days into your trip.

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South shore of Mono Lake looking west toward Mount Dana and the Sierra Crest

Mammoth lies within the western margin of dormant, Long Valley Caldera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Valley_Caldera) - a super volcano that violently erupted and then collapsed about 770,000 years ago, burying a geographic area roughly 850 sq mi (2,200 sq km) to a depth of ~500 ft (170 m) with glowing, superheated ash....  The caldera is approximately 20 mi (32 km) long, east-west, by 11 mi (18 km) wide.  Based on its cyclic eruptive history, ‘Long Valley’ is well overdue for another cataclysmic event!  But, rest easy while you’re there.  The local office of tourism assures us you are safe...! ::)  If you feel adventurous, you can take a short drive and walk to the boiling geothermal springs, sulfurous fumaroles and bubbling mudpots spread along Hot Creek (http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2007/3045/) near the central vent of the caldera.  But, be very attentive and careful to remain on marked trails, since the ground is in a constant state of change and potentially unstable!  Another nearby attraction located along the San Joaquin River just west of Mammoth is Devil’s Postpile NM (http://www.nps.gov/depo/index.htm) with its impressive, vertical volcanic columns planed off by glaciers during the Ice Age.

Further south and to the east in the White Mountains, which trend sub-parallel to the California-Nevada border, survive some of the oldest living trees in the world, in excess of 5,000 years... the famous and weathered bristlecone pines (http://www.davidmuenchphotography.com/portfolios/ancient_bristlecone_pines1.htm#.UvKmtrTmaig).  But, these living monuments are too far afield to visit this trip.

In the morning, fuel your vehicle then backtrack about 35 minutes north along US 395 to Lee Vining and Mono Lake.  Turn west onto SR-120 toward Yosemite National Park.  Climb steadily up this dramatic glacial canyon, rimmed by moraines, cresting out at 9,945 ft (3,031 m) as you cross Tioga Pass, weaving your way past several alpine lakes that punctuate the northern end of Dana Meadows in Yosemite NP.  The lofty reddish-brown peak dominating the eastern (left) skyline is 13,053 ft (3,979 m) Mount Dana.  The hard won summit of Mount Dana (http://www.summitpost.org/mt-dana-dayhike-route-from-gaylor-peak/517910) commands a 360° view that relates the majesty of the Sierra Crest and adjoining ranges - a view that encompasses over 30,000 sq mi (78,000 km2).  The subdued red, brown, yellow, and orange hues of the crest reflect the faulted, folded and baked contact zone between preexisting rocks and the younger, granite core of the mountain range.  To a prospector, “color” alludes to the possibility of enriched mineralization that locally includes silver, gold, copper, tungsten and zinc.  As such, many prospects and mines were established along ‘contact zones’ running the length of the Sierras.  It is common for remnants of mining activities to be scattered through and between difficult to access, inhospitable canyons.  In fact, two ghost towns ‘haunt’ this immediate area: Dana and Bennettville (http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/ca/bennettville.html) - both, defunct silver mining ventures.

Watch your speed closely as you drive through the Park (forest cops are unforgiving) and be wary of bears when you stop.  Don’t leave any food or aromatics in your vehicle unattended.  Although dominantly nocturnal, Yosemite black bears can appear at anytime of day and peel the doors off of a vehicle as effortlessly as a child peels the wrapper from a candy bar.

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Rock climbing in Yosemite NP

Soon after entering the Park the highway swings 90 degrees west into Tuolumne Meadows and follows alongside, then crosses, the proud and clear Tuolumne River.  Tuolumne Meadows is a vast, lush, verdant marsh in the Spring, virtually submerged in snow melt with rivulets crisscrossing everywhere one looks.  From this vantage, scan the skyline and surrounding high peaks for spectacular views.  Study the many granite walls and domes that crowd the highway as you peer for rock climbers.  Breathe in inspirational vistas of the High Sierra with its deep sapphire blue lakes.

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Tenaya Lake looking northeast with Polly Dome at left and Tenaya Peak at right

Continue on SR-120 through the domelands past Tenaya Lake to the Olmstead Point (http://yosemite.lodgingandthingstodo.com/olmstead-point/) turnout with its grand view of world famous Half-Dome directly to the south.  Explore the sweeping granite surfaces that surround the Point and you are bound to find local examples of shiny glacial polish, vaguely reminiscent of a granite counter top.  Continue westward on SR-120 to Crane Flat.  Refill with fuel and grab an ice-cream bar and refreshments, then bear left and continue down SR-120 as you descend southeast toward Yosemite Valley.  Turn left again when you intersect the El Portal Road (SR-140 from Mariposa).  Spend the rest of the day wandering around this world destination park.  Exit the Park toward Fresno via SR-41 and spend the night in Oakhurst about 48 mi (77 km), and 1.5 hours away.

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Yosemite Valley looking east with Half-Dome at center farground

After a lazy breakfast, head southwest on SR-41 into Fresno (~45 min).  Exit SR-41 at Shaw Avenue and drive west to connect with US 99 northbound.  Exit onto SR-152 heading west toward Los Banos.  Remain on SR-152 (http://www.distancebetweencities.net/los-banos_ca_and_monterey-bay-aquarium_monterey_ca/route), crossing under I-5 before passing by the San Luis Reservoir on your way toward Gilroy and the Monterey Bay Aquarium.  As you approach Gilroy take an hour or so to stop at Casa de Fruta (http://casadefruta.com/) and enjoy their broad selection of fruits, nuts, candies, and other delectable treats.  With any luck, while you’re there, peacocks will parade around the park and call out while the train wanders its tracks, blowing its whistle and ringing its bell to your lil one's delight.  In addition to savory treats, Casa de Fruta is a decent spot for fuel, a pit stop, and lunch.

Roughly 2 mi (3.2 km) past Casa de Fruta, SR-152 intersects SR-156 and veers north into Gilroy.  Continue straight on SR-156.  Follow signs to US 101 then turn south toward Monterey.  Watch for highway signs to Castroville and Monterey as SR-156 splits west from US 101.  Use your map and road signs to find your way to Cannery Row and the Aquarium.  Plan on spending several hours looking at the exhibits.  Enjoy a sumptuous meal at one of the many fine restaurants on Fisherman's Wharf or Cannery Row (Bubba Gump (http://www.bubbagump.com/locations/monterey/) is a local favorite).  From this point, work your way down or back up the coast at your leisure, using your remaining vacation to enjoy the various parks, towns, beaches and fabulous views.  Plan your departure from the US out of San Jose, Los Angeles or any major airport.

I hope this has provided some additional food for thought.  Good traveling!   8)
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Bitzer! on February 11, 2014, 03:17:51 pm
That must have taken ages mate, really-thank you from the bottom of my heart I really appreciate it.
Sooooo many options now, it's nice to see whats out there and not to miss things of I was to use the main highway.

Many, many thanks
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: dvdswan on February 11, 2014, 03:21:10 pm
bd, thats some awesome work there.  I may hit the ones that I never knew about.  8)
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: bd on February 11, 2014, 08:37:24 pm
Been to everyone of those places... some many times.  They are definitely highlights.  Of course there are many more.  Each, unique and special in its own right.  And, that covers only about one-third of the State.  Southern California is a whole other world, as are the desert regions.  Too bad our politics are so flubbed!  If I can be of any further assistance let me know.
Title: Re: Vacation
Post by: Blazin on February 12, 2014, 02:48:45 pm
Sorry so late. The white mountains called so as they are snow covered for a good period of the year. Vermont has the green mountains even though they too are snow covered about the same amount of time!