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Title: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on July 05, 2014, 07:19:51 pm
Do you have any ideas on why a temp gauge would stop working suddenly?

It's a mechanical gauge  and when i first noticed the gauge was not registering it made me wonder if i had enough water in the system, so i parked it and yes i was real low.   i added some with the engine still running ( i always carry a few jugs of water in back) to bring the radiator back up.  Since then the temp gauge doesn't work.

The engine did not overheat as far as i know---it runs fine.   It turns out one of the heater hoses was leaking and this caused the water level to go way down.  But this has been fixed.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on July 05, 2014, 07:24:14 pm
P.S.
The sender for the gauge is in the intake manifold near the water neck.  i don't know if this helps.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: jaredts on July 05, 2014, 07:28:49 pm
Did you crack the sender to make sure fluid comes out?  Could be an air pocket maybe.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Irish_Alley on July 05, 2014, 11:19:35 pm
air pocket would be steam and it should still read it. a pinched line? never seen a mechanical one fail
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: FlatBlack77 on July 06, 2014, 12:11:22 pm
check the entire length of the line and check for any damage. depending how you have it routed maybe it got against the exhaust manifold and melted?
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: BADAZ chevy guy on July 06, 2014, 02:20:28 pm
I've never seen a mechanical temp gauge. How does it attach to the motor?
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: bd on July 06, 2014, 03:07:52 pm
I've never seen a mechanical temp gauge. How does it attach to the motor?

They use a one-piece capillary tube filled with fluid that's permanently attached to both the gauge and a thermal bulb that threads into the water jacket.  Think of an old fashioned mercury thermometer.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: BADAZ chevy guy on July 06, 2014, 04:34:06 pm
Okay. So it heats up and builds pressure which in turn moves the gauge. Interesting. So, I would think a leak then.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: bd on July 06, 2014, 05:18:17 pm
Possibly; or the sensor isn't immersed in liquid.  Heat transfer between liquid coolant and the sensor is far better than heat transfer between a hot gas (such as steam) and the sensor.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: FlatBlack77 on July 06, 2014, 07:34:19 pm
if the line checks out alright you can move the probe to the side of the block and see if it makes a difference(doubt it will)
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Irish_Alley on July 06, 2014, 11:36:35 pm
These things read even if they are just hanging in the engine bay. May not be accurate but they will read something. Buddy got a truck and I forget why but it had two temp gauges and was hanging off the booster and it would read 100°+
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on July 07, 2014, 06:52:19 pm
Yeah, mine doesn't read anything.  i am busy with work etc. but will check it out asap.

Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 02, 2014, 05:42:17 pm
The line is not clear, so i can't check for fluid leaks.  No damage to the line either.   Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: bd on August 02, 2014, 07:18:56 pm
Remove the temperature gauge bulb from the water passage and immerse it in near boiling water with a thermometer in it, so you know the water temperature.  If the dash gauge doesn't read within ~3%, replace the gauge.
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 02, 2014, 10:41:52 pm
ok
Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 03, 2014, 02:32:35 pm
i put the probe in boiling water and nothing.  Also, when removed from the intake it was definitely touching water.   i think time for a new gauge.  These were the cheap Chinese ones from summit:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g2924/overview/

My theory is they worked fine all along until last month i ran the motor to about 260 degrees---was caught in a traffic jam and i still have not put a fan on;  See my other post entitled "waterpump pulley to fan bolts"
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=12865.0

My theory is the gauge couldn't handle the high temperatures.   Well, it worked great while it lasted.  i got it and the oil pressure gauge for $14 back in summer 2006 at Summit.

Has anyone used the Autogage Ultra-nites?

Title: Re: What would cause a temp gauge to suddenly stop working?
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 04, 2014, 10:49:27 am
This dual gauge set, oil press+water temp, is now $19.95 at summit.  So, you figure $9.50 per gauge.  What do you expect?   You get what you pay for.

Forget about Ultra-nites---i just found out there's no way to hook up lighting to it.

i'm going to go with the cyberdyne unit that has been sitting on my shelf for a while.