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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Body, Glass & Paint => Topic started by: Breadvan on September 02, 2014, 05:08:40 pm
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So I need to do a fair bit of work to my engine, and I find it really hard to reach anything, the engine bay being so big.
I want to remove the inner and outer fenders on each side and leave the wheels sitting naked. I'd prefer to leave the hood and front section on.
The first thing the manual says to do is remove the hood, do I have to? Is it impossible to do without? Also is it quicker removing inner and outer fenders as a single unit, is there any shortcuts I should look for?
This is purely to gain access to the engine, I need to change the carburetor and remove the plugs and try and free the block, remove the intake manifold and clean it all out. It's stuck in a farm shed with a loose dirt floor, so I'm not happy jacking it up and working under it. I'm also open to better suggestions.
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Removing carb, intake, and plugs are all very easy to do from the top, I just open the hood, climb up in the engine bay and sit on the fender wells while I'm working.
Other than that, I've only ever taken off the inner fenders and while they're fairly easy to unbolt, they're near impossible to get out with the tire and outer fender on
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So you just sit in the engine bay?
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i've done the sitting in the engine bay thing and it is uncomfortable fast. i am planning on switching to v-6 and using an electric fan and this should give me enough space to stand in there!
But i like your idea of removing the inner fenderwells for servicing; Maybe you can dzus them when you re-install them to make it fast and easy to remove.
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Dzus?
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Removing carb, intake, and plugs are all very easy to do from the top, I just open the hood, climb up in the engine bay and sit on the fender wells while I'm working.
Other than that, I've only ever taken off the inner fenders and while they're fairly easy to unbolt, they're near impossible to get out with the tire and outer fender on
Some people can not get in and sit like that anymore. I used to when I was younger, but knee injuries do not allow my knee's to bend that much any more.
Here is a pic of an engine creeper that I plan on getting pretty soon, will make life so much easier for me anyway.
(http://www.tooltopia.com/_img/TRX/TRX3100.jpg)
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Nice ;D
But that's a $300 solution for a $200 truck 8)
I see a Jr model for $100, I wonder what I could make from an Ab-Doer and a welding torch. :o
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"is there any shortcuts I should look for?"
The hood is only a few bolts. Make your witness marks and get it out of the way. Taking the fenders off seems a little ridiculous if you are looking for shortcuts. Removing the inner fenders may make life a little easier if you don't fit in the engine compartment easily
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That thing is sweet. Why didn't I invent something like that. Christmas is coming ;)
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I've got some pole clamps, trying to figure out if I could clamp a padded seat to a stepladder and create the same, likely would have balance issues. :-\
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Dzus?
A fast way to fasten sheet metal and other panels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzus_fastener
Here's an article that kind of describes it:
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/1306_aeromotive_stealth_fuel_cell_install/
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...and I learn something new ;D
Quick release fenders would be nice, though I don't think you could use those fasteners all round the fenders? This is just such an odd design, to me, having such inaccessible parts, or in this case most of the engine, and the spark plugs especially. A hinged front section that flips it all forward would have made access so much easier.
(http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27035&d=1283190374)
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http://york.craigslist.org/pts/4650807011.html
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I used to sit on the fenders when I was younger. My 15 tear old son and I are working on my 1979 truck right now. I had him remove the inner fenders because they were rusted. I have to say it is so much nicer to work on now. :)I think I would remove the inner fenders if it was me- especially if they are going to be replaced.
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No, the front end probably has the least rot on it. The rear wheel wells are a mess, and I've got a hole in the bed, where the rear tire shed it's tread and slappa-slappa'd the bed with it. I just need to get the carb off, after the mice nested in it, and clean up the engine bay, where the possum nested in it, and tear off the remaining hood liner that various wildlife used for bedding. I probably shoulda left it in the yard, it would have been less attractive to critters, but the wife wanted it out of sight.
I guess I'll try the step stool approach, once the weather cools down, and if I get frustrated I'll tear the fenders off.
Putting $1000 worth of fiberglass on a $200 truck, just don't make sense, but it sure is purdy ::)
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"This is just such an odd design, to me, having such inaccessible parts, or in this case most of the engine, and the spark plugs especially."
I don't understand. Are you working on a squarebody, or have I misunderstood? I have found the squarebody engine bays to be quite accessible, plugs and all. If you are working on the step van in your picture, then I understand. On a squarebody, I agree that reaching everything is a bit of a chore because of height (if climbing in the engine bay is not an option), but that would be true of any pickup. The engine creeper looks intriguing, but with a dirt floor, I see why that's not really an option, either.
By the way, if we are talking about a squarebody it is possible to remove the front fenders without removing the hood, but it does eliminate the hood springs. You have to prop the hood with something else, which is somewhat hazardous. At any rate, removing the fenders will be frustrating, too. They attach at the A-pillar (top and bottom), several bolts attaching the inner fender to the outer fender, one large inner fender bolt to the lower firewall, a few bolts to the radiator support, and two bolts for the front filler panel between the grille and the bumper, which will necessitate removing the grille and headlight trim. Any of these bolts may be rusted. Before I would disassemble the entire front clip, I would probably just cobble together a stable stool made out of 2x4s and plywood with steps at a couple of different heights. Good luck to you my friend, and may you get it back on the road soon!
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Oh, good to know about the hood springs.
The breadvan had two distinct advantages, well three if you count the fact it ran. It was a 4 cylinder diesel, and the whole hood was fibreglass and flipped up out the way, you could pop off the bump in the cab, and it was pretty easy to get at.
Mind you, I know they did put chevy V8's in there too, but I think it may have still been more accessible.
(http://dub.greboguru.org/pump.jpg)
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73-80 hoods are attached to the fenders only 81-up could you get away with that
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Try stacking a few tires with rims to stand on top of. It takes the curse off of leaning over the fender/radiator support (especially on a lifted truck).
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There's a video of a blazer with a medium duty tilt frontend. i will look for it when i get a chance. This is definitely a project i want to do.
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This isn't what i was talking about, but in the meantime read this:
http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/tilt1.html
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Ok, found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjLgI-Gnv1c
Not only would it make getting to the engine real easy, you might lose a few pounds too.
i have seen these front ends at salvage yards from $200-$500.