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Title: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: CanadianC10 on September 13, 2014, 03:16:01 pm
currently running hydroboost in order to clear valve covers of my Cadillac motor.
having to remove the booster in order to lash valves is a pain, along with the extra hoses.

anyone running standard brakes on these trucks? where did you get the master cylinder?

Thanks.

Brennan Curtis
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: zieg85 on September 13, 2014, 04:39:08 pm
My 86 C10 came with manual brakes, I am sure you can get the correct master from any auto parts store
Title: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: roundhouse on September 13, 2014, 10:19:06 pm
Can't you use flex hoses at the MC?

Then you just have 2 bolts

I've seen off road only squarebody trucks with lots of frame flex use the braided steel flex hoses from the MC to the frame
The frame and body twist so much that the stock hard lines break off where they thread into the MC



Also google at the power brake setup on a early (66-77) Bronco

THey have a bellcrank pivot that relocates the booster at a 45 degree angle to clear the valve cover

Might work on your truck with a little fab


What kind of engine you running  ?
A 500?
Or a north star ?
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: CanadianC10 on September 14, 2014, 02:08:05 pm
Roundhouse, I don't understand what you mean by flex hoses at the master cylinder, im trying to ditch the power booster and use a standard master cylinder.

Its a 507 Cadillac and no matter how much I angle the booster it will not come close to enough room, these engines are wide and I am running 3 1/2" valve covers to clear the shaft rockers.

Zieg85, does your master cylinder just use the two top studs as opposed to the 6 used when a power booster is used?
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: zieg85 on September 14, 2014, 04:25:20 pm


Zieg85, does your master cylinder just use the two top studs as opposed to the 6 used when a power booster is used?

2 bolts are used
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: CanadianC10 on September 14, 2014, 06:44:13 pm
Roundhouse, I now understand what you were getting too, I figured there was similar bracket for the master cylinder that the booster used.

with that being said I wonder If I could use the master cylinder off the booster.. I'm assuming the manual master cylinder has a bigger bore or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: roundhouse on September 14, 2014, 08:52:22 pm
The manual MC is slightly different but not much

Did you take a look at the early bronco bracket?
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: CanadianC10 on September 15, 2014, 03:31:58 pm
that is a good idea for swaps ill keep that in mind.

as for me I doubt my cam would pull enough vacuum to bother with.
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: zieg85 on September 15, 2014, 03:40:59 pm
FWIW, manual brakes are not that much harder to stop than power assist.  I like the manual feel better and 1 less thing to go wrong.  It is so much easier change a steering column with manual as well...
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: CanadianC10 on September 15, 2014, 06:22:08 pm
I will be going to manual steering also.. this truck is getting more performance then street ability. although I will not drive it any less on the street.
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: zieg85 on September 15, 2014, 07:13:17 pm
I will be going to manual steering also.. this truck is getting more performance then street ability. although I will not drive it any less on the street.

Just like my 86, originally RPO N51  Power steering delete
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: CanadianC10 on September 15, 2014, 08:48:58 pm
wouldn't happen to have a manual steer box to sell would you?
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: roundhouse on September 15, 2014, 08:52:41 pm
Do The manual brakes in the 73-87 have a different pedal ratio ?
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: zieg85 on September 15, 2014, 09:03:41 pm
Do The manual brakes in the 73-87 have a different pedal ratio ?

I don't believe so
Title: Re: Standard Brakes - 84 Chevrolet C10
Post by: zieg85 on September 15, 2014, 09:05:11 pm
wouldn't happen to have a manual steer box to sell would you?

Sold my last extra about a year ago.  They are really hard to find but I know of one, I will see if the guy wants to sell it.