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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Performance => Topic started by: daman02 on June 07, 2006, 10:43:00 pm

Title: mechanical or vacuum secondries
Post by: daman02 on June 07, 2006, 10:43:00 pm
I'll start off by tellin what i have.  I got a 350 .060 over flat top pistons, 480 lift cam 284 adv. duration int/exh, vortec heads, air gap intake.  Now, i currently have a street avenger 670 w/ vacuum secondaries on it but i was told by a very well respected engine builder that for my application i should get rid of that carb and get a mechanical secondary barry grant demon carburetor.  The truck does get driven regularly but i want the most performance i can get.  All input will be appreciated.

Title: Re: mechanical or vacuum secondries
Post by: DnStClr on June 17, 2006, 06:11:00 pm
Just a guess, but I think he's referring to the mech. secondaries ability to open the throttle plates more efficiently than a vaccum operated secondaries, dont you think? Those Demon carbs are pricey, but when you're building power like your engine does, you don't want the carb to be the weak link in puttin the torque to the ground...  

Don St.Clair
Culleoka Tn

Title: Re: mechanical or vacuum secondries
Post by: 1976Scottsdale on June 19, 2006, 07:58:00 pm
The Mechanical secondary carb is nice because the engine does not regulate the secondaries by vacuum.  I run a Q-jet(V secondaries I think) and it is pretty nice, but I have done away with most of the linkage and the secondaries open pretty much whenever I want them to, that is nice in engines like ours because they require more fuel.  Get the mech carb.

Title: Re: mechanical or vacuum secondries
Post by: daman02 on June 20, 2006, 08:31:00 am
well i'm gettin a speed demon so my street avenger is for sale now

Title: Re: mechanical or vacuum secondries
Post by: RSBAD454 on June 28, 2006, 11:41:00 pm
Well, if you have an auto tranny....a Vacuum secondary is recommened. Vacuum secondaries are great for heavier vehicles with auto trannies. I have a holley 780 vacuum secondary and it works great. You might hurt your performance by using a mechanical....vauum secondaries only open upon demand of the motor.

Toys are my game

Title: Re: mechanical or vacuum secondries
Post by: joesgarage71 on October 18, 2006, 09:48:00 am
I agree with RSBad454, I have a stout 454 in a heavy Automatic car and wouldn't use anything but a vac carb.I use a Holley on the car and have Quadrajets on my trucks.When there tuned right there awesome.Alot less gas useage.
Steve

Title: carb
Post by: Leadfoot on October 19, 2006, 07:51:00 am
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Edited by: Leadfoot at: 10/24/06 5:07 pm
Title: Re: carb
Post by: roundedline on October 19, 2006, 12:58:00 pm
Ya'll realize this post is about 4 months old right?

Chris Lucas
www.73-87chevytrucks.com
www.captkaoscustoms.com
Project Su
Jimmy 2WD Project

Title: NO
Post by: Leadfoot on October 19, 2006, 02:54:00 pm
Aaarghhh..8)  

Edited by: Leadfoot at: 10/24/06 5:06 pm
Title: Oh Well!
Post by: joesgarage71 on October 19, 2006, 08:22:00 pm
Oh Well!

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: daman02 on October 23, 2006, 07:24:00 pm
wow since i seen that this post is revived i'll tell you that i will have 3.73 gears with a 2500 stall.  and i am looking for more performance than gas useage.

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: joesgarage71 on November 09, 2006, 09:35:00 pm
If you can barrow a 750 vac or double pumper holley from a friend and try it for a day you will like it.Your 670 is alittle small for the engine you have.
Steve

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: stepside454 on November 22, 2006, 09:38:00 am
670 cfm is enough cfm for that motor to about 6500 RPMs , especially with the large plenum on that airgap intake. I woulda kept it on there myself.

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: SUX2BU99 on December 14, 2006, 03:42:00 pm
^ Yeah, overcarbing it can lead to more performance disappointments, and mech. secondaries even more so. You might find your throttle response is lacking and too soft on the low-end.  Do you like it to feel responsive and torquey around town or boggy and then it tear up the road when the revs are high?

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: joesgarage71 on December 14, 2006, 09:48:00 pm
And I thought that Chevrolet put 750 Quadrajets on 350's from the factory,Humm

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: SUX2BU99 on January 03, 2007, 11:31:00 am
They did. Even put 800's on the 302 in the 1st-gen Z/28s. Doesn't mean they were kinda overcarbed though. Not sure why GM did that on quite a few of their motors but they did. I would think driveability would suffer from it. But that's the beauty of a spead-bore:  small primaries for good throttle response around town and part throttle, and big secondaries to draw a lot of air in at WOT. Problem is that stumble when you stomp on it and the big secondaries open and the motor can't use all that available air, plus the resultant slow down in airflow velocity when the big ports open up that the motor can't use yet since it's still at low revs.

Title: Re: Oh Well!
Post by: roundedline on January 03, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
Quote:
And I thought that Chevrolet put 750 Quadrajets on 350's from the factory,Humm


Vaccum carbs...  It only gave as much gas as the engine needed.  It can only pull in so much fuel.

Chris Lucas
www.73-87chevytrucks.com
www.captkaoscustoms.com
Project Su
Jimmy 2WD Project