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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Wheels & Tires => Topic started by: jay6776 on December 28, 2014, 05:59:41 pm

Title: Going nuts over here
Post by: jay6776 on December 28, 2014, 05:59:41 pm
I want to replace the wheels on my 85 need new tires. So might as well up date the wheels to. Looking to get Corvette rallies. But not sure on what back spacing I need. Right now I have 15 x 8 on the front and 15 x 10 on the back . Tire sizes are 225/70/15 and on the back its 275/60 /15.  I don't know the back spacing of the rim.
I have 2 inch drop spindles on the front and i think 3 inch drop shackles on the rear. The Rear was going to go with 10 inch wheel with 5 inch back space. The front is were the prob comes in. Right now can not balance the wheel cuz it will knock the weights off.( sticky weights or out side ones) So not really sure what back spacing I should use on the front. Would a 8 inch wide with 4 inch back spacing work?

the photo is how it sits now

And Than on the tires to me the 275 /60/15 on the back is to small for a 10 inch wheel. the tire i have on there is bowing in the middle

Would like the back to be the same wide but like 1 inch taller
and would like the front little taller to
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: Irish_Alley on December 29, 2014, 01:16:49 am
In order to balance a wheel you have to remove all weights anyway
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: roundhouse on December 29, 2014, 11:16:00 am
Those wheels look great !

Slightly taller tires would be perfect




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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: roundhouse on December 29, 2014, 11:19:23 am
You can also use airsoft pellets inside the tire to balance it and some company makes stainless pellets small enough to install thru the valve stem

I know guys that use airsoft pellets or stainless ball bearings inside their large off road tires to balance them




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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: Captkaos on December 29, 2014, 12:09:38 pm
factory 15x8" wheels had 4" backspacing, so...

Do they have the stick on weight and the control arm is knocking them off?
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Post by: 78BIG-TEN on December 29, 2014, 04:28:00 pm
My 78 kept knocking them ,had to trim the lower control arms to get clearance for weights
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: DuckAholic1 on December 29, 2014, 05:06:57 pm
You can also use airsoft pellets inside the tire to balance it and some company makes stainless pellets small enough to install thru the valve stem

I know guys that use airsoft pellets or stainless ball bearings inside their large off road tires to balance them
Never heard of this before! Question.. How would little balls rolling around inside the tire balance it??? Forgive me if that's a dumb question!! A little sleep deprived right now!! :o



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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: jay6776 on December 29, 2014, 05:17:00 pm
factory 15x8" wheels had 4" backspacing, so...

Do they have the stick on weight and the control arm is knocking them off?

Well if I use the stick weights the caliber knocks them off. And If I use the weight on the outer lip the tie rod end knocks it off. But went out there last night and I think them front wheels have 4.5 back spacing. So I might just get a  1/2 spacer that would give me the clearance I need.
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: roundhouse on December 30, 2014, 08:46:10 am

You can also use airsoft pellets inside the tire to balance it and some company makes stainless pellets small enough to install thru the valve stem

I know guys that use airsoft pellets or stainless ball bearings inside their large off road tires to balance them
Never heard of this before! Question.. How would little balls rolling around inside the tire balance it??? Forgive me if that's a dumb question!! A little sleep deprived right now!! :o



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Here's a demo of the ceramic beads that are small enough to fit thru the valve stem

Keep In mind that the quality of tires is not as good as it used to be and quite a few come from the factory egg shaped or with a small section of the sidewall weaker than  the rest so with weight on it it bounces
The only way to find those are with "road force balancing"
A machine that actually puts weight on the tire as it spins on the machine to simulate being on a vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player




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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: roundhouse on December 30, 2014, 08:49:48 am
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/516446-airsoft-pellet-tire-balancing-including-charts-calculators.html


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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: roundhouse on December 30, 2014, 03:05:51 pm
The tire should be at least two inches wider in the sidewall than the rim


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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: jay6776 on December 30, 2014, 09:36:12 pm

You can also use airsoft pellets inside the tire to balance it and some company makes stainless pellets small enough to install thru the valve stem

I know guys that use airsoft pellets or stainless ball bearings inside their large off road tires to balance them
Never heard of this before! Question.. How would little balls rolling around inside the tire balance it??? Forgive me if that's a dumb question!! A little sleep deprived right now!! :o



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Here's a demo of the ceramic beads that are small enough to fit thru the valve stem

Keep In mind that the quality of tires is not as good as it used to be and quite a few come from the factory egg shaped or with a small section of the sidewall weaker than  the rest so with weight on it it bounces
The only way to find those are with "road force balancing"
A machine that actually puts weight on the tire as it spins on the machine to simulate being on a vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player




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That is pretty neat. When you first posted that i thought you were joking around. Did you do this with your tires? How did it work?
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: roundhouse on December 31, 2014, 07:51:28 am


You can also use airsoft pellets inside the tire to balance it and some company makes stainless pellets small enough to install thru the valve stem

I know guys that use airsoft pellets or stainless ball bearings inside their large off road tires to balance them
Never heard of this before! Question.. How would little balls rolling around inside the tire balance it??? Forgive me if that's a dumb question!! A little sleep deprived right now!! :o



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Here's a demo of the ceramic beads that are small enough to fit thru the valve stem

Keep In mind that the quality of tires is not as good as it used to be and quite a few come from the factory egg shaped or with a small section of the sidewall weaker than  the rest so with weight on it it bounces
The only way to find those are with "road force balancing"
A machine that actually puts weight on the tire as it spins on the machine to simulate being on a vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player




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That is pretty neat. When you first posted that i thought you were joking around. Did you do this with your tires? How did it work?

Used it in the tires on my 18 wheelers

I've got a tire on my bronco that can't be balanced
Gonna try some in it


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Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on January 04, 2015, 11:12:02 am
i actually use these:
http://www.counteractbalancing.com/

But i can't comment how well they work because all my tires are out of round because today's tires just aren't very good as you pointed out.  (Hankook i'm afraid to say.....)

i don't put them in thru the valve stem though----i just open the bag dump them in the tire.  You have to be careful when doing that so as not to get any of the product in the bead area of the tire which would cause a leak.    Counteract prefers you put the whole bag in the tire, but what i've found is that the bag didn't disintegrate like it was supposed to and let the product roam freely in the tire.  Maybe i just didn't put that many miles on it before i had to dismount the tire? (due to tire needing to be replaced)
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: LTZ C20 on January 04, 2015, 11:55:43 am
I took a few minutes to explore your provided link Stewart, very interesting read. Thanks.
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Post by: Stewart G Griffin on January 04, 2015, 06:17:01 pm
I took a few minutes to explore your provided link Stewart, very interesting read. Thanks.

No problem.  And when i get the truck running again i'll be switching to Michelins and then i can really judge if the product works well.  i have a gut feeling that they do, but like i said all my tires are either flatspotted or distorted or both. 
Title: Re: Going nuts over here
Post by: LTZ C20 on January 05, 2015, 12:06:51 am
That sucks. I'm running a set of BFG's, Commercial T/A's. They are very good.