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Title: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: zieg85 on May 24, 2015, 08:10:09 am
Can anyone shed some light?  I've checked every hose I could find and changed the gas cap.  The reset lasts 3-4 cycles but comes back.  Changed the gas cap as well.  I am out of ideas so I am reaching out to y'all. 
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: FlatBlack77 on May 24, 2015, 09:20:42 am
i dont know alot about this stuff but i found this thread and it has a few things in it you can check
http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=38602
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: zieg85 on May 24, 2015, 12:53:26 pm
Thanks, I had found another on the same site but didn't read about a cracked tank like this one.  This truck only has 30K miles
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: jg1977c20 on May 25, 2015, 02:43:11 am
evap canister vent solenoid and usually you want to replace the purge valve with it - that should do it
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 25, 2015, 09:24:06 am
It's possible you have a vent solenoid that is either venting when it's not supposed to or not venting at all. Do you have access to any type of diagnostic scanner? Just just a code reader but one with output functions? This way you can test it to see if it has failed, if it is bad then you can replace it. If you have access to a scanner I can walk you thru testing the code. Replacing the purge valve along with the vent solenoid is NOT necessary or required. If only 1 part has failed there is NO reason to replace 2 parts. Here at the dealer, we have never replaced both just because 1 of them failed.

A simple rule applies here, "don't fix what ain't broke".
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: zieg85 on May 25, 2015, 09:40:30 am
Thanks, I have an intermediate scanner.  The code was set at 1298 rpms, 38 mph and the temp was 198.  It is my brothers truck and my scanner.  I cleared the code and when it comes on again I will copy down all the parameters.  Thanks
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 26, 2015, 02:50:33 am
Ok cool. We will have to wait and see what you get with your scanner. If it comes back again. What scanner do you have? Name, model, how old is it?
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: zieg85 on May 26, 2015, 06:37:18 am
Scanner is in the garage, it is a Craftsman about 5 years old and it was the middle of the road model.  I have the manual with the model #.  I will get that info when I the code comes up again.
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: VileZambonie on May 26, 2015, 10:07:13 am
check the vent solenoid and check the vent hoses
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 27, 2015, 12:40:27 am
Ok sounds good.
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 27, 2015, 07:57:17 pm
gm in thoes years are notorious for vent solenoid problems. idk how or why but they tent to get stuck open. a friends tahoe and another friends crew cab had the same problem once they replace them theyre usually good for sometime but sometimes they come back
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: 78BIG-TEN on May 28, 2015, 10:28:23 am
You might check with GM for an updated vent solenoid,they have one for trucks.
What happens is thet get full of dirt\dust and cant seal.The new style comes
with a different valve and filter.You need to get about 10 feet of 5\8 heater hose
 and locate filter above trans using tie wraps
 
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: zieg85 on May 28, 2015, 10:33:26 am
You might check with GM for an updated vent solenoid,they have one for trucks.
What happens is thet get full of dirt\dust and cant seal.The new style comes
with a different valve and filter.You need to get about 10 feet of 5\8 heater hose
 and locate filter above trans using tie wraps

Silly question maybe, but can they be cleaned/blown out with air?
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 28, 2015, 02:25:53 pm
"Silly question maybe, but can they be cleaned/blown out with air?"

No, don't do this, they can become pressurized and explode like a hand grenade. I've seen it happen, it's not pretty.
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: zieg85 on May 28, 2015, 02:48:09 pm
"Silly question maybe, but can they be cleaned/blown out with air?"

No, don't do this, they can become pressurized and explode like a hand grenade. I've seen it happen, it's not pretty.

Thanks for the info, no want boom boom....
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 28, 2015, 04:59:49 pm
No you don't, my uncle did this on accident, the explosion gave my mom a rash for 2 weeks on her face and arms.
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: 78BIG-TEN on June 02, 2015, 09:33:20 am
Some aftermarket fuel caps wont work.I see this a lot code ,probably the most common
 code set.The canister vent valve usually the culprit,they can also cause the tank hard to
 fill,the gas pump will keep shutting off.Gm has a bulletin out on this
Title: Re: PO 442 code 2002 GMC Envoy, can't figure it out?
Post by: LTZ C20 on June 02, 2015, 09:43:28 am
Some aftermarket fuel caps wont work.I see this a lot code ,probably the most common
 code set.The canister vent valve usually the culprit,they can also cause the tank hard to
 fill,the gas pump will keep shutting off.Gm has a bulletin out on this
This is coorrect.